what kind of player will he be? what team(s) have a need for a Cam Newton?

12/22/2010 9:22:17 PM

upside is Michael Vick

downside is Marcus Vick

12/22/2010 9:23:59 PM

NFL thread.

College football thread.

Draft thread.

Lock

Suspend

Terminate

12/22/2010 9:31:44 PM

it's an NFL subject about a college player

this transcends threads


(and NYM is in Cali)

12/22/2010 9:33:24 PM

elevator in my crib cause it's five floors
not expectin you to have one inside yours
Vince Young, suicide doors
life's a bitch, now die for her

12/22/2010 9:49:07 PM

why they gotta be black comparisons? upside of steve young, downside of eric crouch

12/22/2010 9:49:20 PM

Why are we talking about dudes that are 6'0-6'2 and 200-215 lbs in this thread?

12/22/2010 9:55:50 PM

Upside Vince Young

Downside Troy Smith

12/22/2010 9:59:09 PM

Quote :

"suicide doors"

Who can tell me what these are (w/o googling obviously)?

12/22/2010 10:45:33 PM

dont know yet, all the agents are at his dad's place

12/22/2010 10:50:07 PM

zing!

12/22/2010 10:50:54 PM

I don't have to google to know they're doors that swing open toward the rear of the car (opposite of normal).

12/22/2010 10:57:35 PM

Redskins


^^^^ yeah, who couldnt tell you that? and I got em

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 11:23 PM. Reason : D]

12/22/2010 11:22:45 PM

I would say more upside = big Vick

Downside = JaMarcus Russell

12/22/2010 11:23:57 PM

I guarantee the Redskins draft him. Especially since the last Auburn QB they drafted turned out so well.

12/22/2010 11:26:53 PM

perfect fit... Luck wont make it to him, Shanahan loves a big arm

12/23/2010 12:01:39 AM

He's as pretty as Sanchez!

12/23/2010 9:41:22 AM

bust

12/23/2010 10:02:18 AM

He's not there yet. I can't wait till they make him give that stiff arm trophy back.

12/23/2010 10:33:44 AM

Upside = McNabb

Downside = Aaron Brooks


Likely scenario = Tavaris Jackson

12/23/2010 2:52:55 PM

Will he be better than Terrell Pryor?

I say definitively maybe.

12/23/2010 8:11:15 PM

Good enough that the Panthers will think he's the answer and draft him

Bad enough to not be the answer and stick us with another freshmen QB and a 2 win season in 2011

12/23/2010 10:51:10 PM

Anything has got to be better than Clawlson. Look at how Sanchez came into the league, we could hope for something like that happening.

12/23/2010 10:55:57 PM

Sam Bradford hasn't done bad either. Nor has Colt McCoy (kind of)

12/23/2010 11:13:43 PM

Quote :

"Look at how Sanchez came into the league, we could hope for something like that happening."

12 TD and 20 Int?

63 passer rating?

Shoot for the stars!

12/23/2010 11:18:42 PM

12/24/2010 6:42:04 AM

bizzybump

3/31/2011 4:52:18 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6277093

come on Warren, I thought you were better than that

3/31/2011 4:52:37 PM

i think he is partially right

3/31/2011 4:59:04 PM

Cam newton will be fucking worthless. Doesn't the kid always play in shotgun

3/31/2011 5:51:06 PM

^You're thinking of Tom Brady

3/31/2011 5:53:16 PM

peyton manning, too, is worthless

3/31/2011 5:53:28 PM

Quote :

"Very disingenuous – has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup. Always knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement that continually invites trouble and makes him believe he is above the law – does not command respect from teammates and always will struggle to win a locker room. Only a one-year producer. Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness – is not punctual, seeks shortcuts and sets a bad example. Immature and has had issues with authority. Not dependable."

http://deadspin.com/#!5786964/one-nfl-draft-expert-really-thinks-cam-newtons-a-dick

3/31/2011 6:02:15 PM

the guy who wrote that stuff wrote what some NFL scout said...the guy who wrote the stuff never even talked to Cam Newton

what kinda of hack ass journalist wastes time calling out somebody for having a fake smile?

3/31/2011 6:04:24 PM

^hahahah

He was prolly an alabama fan or some other SEC school.


hate hate hate

3/31/2011 6:09:35 PM

Upside - Ben Roethlisberger

Downside - Vince Young

3/31/2011 11:59:35 PM

upside - Joe Montana
downside - Ryan Leaf

4/1/2011 12:30:01 AM

Warren Moon think all the criticism is racially-based.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6277093

4/1/2011 12:50:23 AM

10 posts up boss, why the thread was bttt'd in the first place

4/1/2011 12:51:59 AM

Quote :

"Upside - Ben Roethlisberger"

Quote :

"Warren Moon think all the criticism is racially-based."

If you really look at newtons game,size, and skillset I'd say he'll end up being closer to Roethlisberger or even maybe Joe Flacco than he is to Vick or Young, he much bigger than young or vick and can definitely see where someone could see it as racially based because there are more white QBs he's like than black ones.

4/1/2011 10:06:31 AM

How about we wait until he plays a game before we comment on him?

4/1/2011 10:16:36 AM

^yeh, nobody ever has opinions on incoming rookies

4/1/2011 10:17:31 AM

i just hope when he plays that game and we get to comment, it's not for the panthers. i'm trying to think of other QBs that might be "slick" like that article makes him sound. pretty much the only one i could see is Jimmy Clausen

4/1/2011 10:21:25 AM

a lot of those traits the scout listed you could tell from just watching him on the sidelines. I mean he was acting "too cool for school" even when they won the NCAA title.

4/1/2011 11:24:23 AM

Quote :

"If you really look at newtons game,size, and skillset I'd say he'll end up being closer to Roethlisberger or even maybe Joe Flacco than he is to Vick or Young, he much bigger than young or vick and can definitely see where someone could see it as racially based because there are more white QBs he's like than black ones."

He's the same height as Vince Young, about 10 pounds heavier, always plays from the shotgun, and has pretty much the exact same 40 time. I'd say the comparisons are valid.

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2011 12:30:02 PM

^If Vince Young is actually 6-5 235 I'd be shocked

I still consider young's game much closer to Vick's than I would Newton but I'll fully concede this along with the size/weight could just be my eyes playing tricks on me.

Also, I like Vick's game anyway so no real judgement on styles or etc. Vick throws much better than he's given credit for I think the only drawback is durability.

4/1/2011 1:59:08 PM

I'm inclined to disagree with the wife beater and drunk driver.

4/1/2011 2:05:49 PM

If the Panthers draft this clown with the #1 overall pick they should just fold the franchise.

He is going to suck total nutsac in the pros.

Take Dareus and look for a QB next year.

There isnt a single good QB in this draft so why draft one just to prove it?

4/3/2011 1:04:32 AM

Quote :

"If you really look at newtons game,size, and skillset I'd say he'll end up being closer to Roethlisberger or even maybe Joe Flacco than he is to Vick or Young, he much bigger than young or vick and can definitely see where someone could see it as racially based because there are more white QBs he's like than black ones."

He has size like Roethlisberger or Flacco. But that is really all he has in common with them.

He runs and passes like Vince Young. Strong arm, questionable accuracy, suspect decision-making. Also, much like Young, he has major character and maturity questions. And as noted, Young is almost the same size.

In summation, he should be compared to Vince Young.

4/3/2011 2:19:20 PM

newton has total shit for footwork, completely collapsed against Oregon in the title game, isn't known as a thinking QB, has almost no collegiate QB experience, and he's a run first QB in a pass first era of the NFL.

He looks like a 3rd round pick to me if you want to take a flyer on a guy that could maybe be one of the worst starters in the league on any given week.

Cant believe anyone would risk their franchise on such a raw project without that much upside.

4/3/2011 10:34:21 PM