I am looking to buy a laptop with a 1080p or greater resolution, decent processor like an i5 or something, discrete graphics, backlit keyboard and a webcam.. Fingerprint reader and bluray would be nice.. So far the only laptop that comes close to these requirements is the Asus G53jW.. anybody have any suggestion?

1/10/2011 10:15:24 PM

i recall a few Toshibas with 1080p when i was looking a few months ago

1/10/2011 10:20:26 PM

Dell XPS15 or HP Envy 15.

I actually ordered the Dell, but returned it after I found a deal on a multitouch tablet from HP.

But either of those models will get you everything you listed and are DAMN good machines with great warranties.

1/10/2011 10:25:41 PM

^+1 Big fan of the Envy line. Prefer a smaller machine myself, but they're solid

I just could do without all the swirl stuff.

1/10/2011 11:18:45 PM

For some strange reason the XPS15 no longer has a 1080p option. I'm glad I got mine while it still did.

1/10/2011 11:43:50 PM

^You can still get them on Dell Outlet, just checked and theres at least a couple hundred available.

1/10/2011 11:53:17 PM

Doesn't the ENVY line have heating issues? my colleague for the ENVY 1067nr.. it always needs to be on a cooling pad, else the proc. temp rises above 70C...

1/11/2011 11:07:43 PM

^most laptops have cooling issues if you stress them and don't have them on a cooling pad.

1/12/2011 12:14:21 AM

I will preface this with, if you are not interested in Apple then dont read this post.

I would suggest MacBook Pro if you have tons of cash to burn. Shit is amazing. Def no fingerprints or blu-ray here so if thats a deal breaker then . I have never used a more sleek, clean, quiet machine. Certainly isn't price competitive with a Dell, or Acer, or any other computer. But you cant beat the refined experience. I have been Working for about 2 Hours, doing some dev work in eclipse(which is awful on mac) and xcode here are my operating temps(F):

Hard Drive: 85
CPU: 122
CPU Heatsink: 104
Enclosure Base 1: 88
Enclosure Base 2: 88
Enclosure Base 3: 88
GPU: 106
GPU Diode: 115

Not mind blowing, but I dont know of many Dual core i7s that can run so chill. Hell your hard pressed to have that kind of data at your fingertips with most laptops.

1/12/2011 10:27:45 AM

If you or anyone else is still looking for a laptop:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/45299/hpshopping.com-hp-envy-laptop-i7720qm-1.6ghz-cpu-4gb-ddr3-500gb-hd-radeon-hd-5650-14-led-1600-x-900-lcd-wifi-n-win-7-64-bit

This is a hella deal. core i7, 4gb, radeon 5650, Envy for $900.

1/15/2011 6:31:48 PM

^ Nice deal, I wonder why they stopped making the 15 inch Envy I woulda jumped on it had this been a 15 inch

1/15/2011 8:07:04 PM

If you are looking for a 17", here'a another $900 deal that's even more power packed than the Envy

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/45305/hp-home-home-office-store-hp-dv7tqe-laptop-core-i72630qm-2.0ghz-8gb-ddr3-640gb-hdd-1gb-radeon-hd-6570-17.3-1600x900-led-bluray-writerdvd-combo-wifi-n-bluetooth-6cell-battery-win-7-prem

2nd Generation Intel Core i7-2630QM 2GHz
8GB DDR3
640GB 7200RPM HDD
1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570 w/ HDMI
17.3" 1600 x 900 diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display
Blu-ray Writer & SuperMulti DVD Burner
WiFi N

1/15/2011 8:36:16 PM

Bump. I'm in the market for a new laptop. I haven't even thought about purchasing one for about 6 years now, so I have no idea what's good anymore. I'm coming from a Thinkpad R52, which has had a really good run, but is on its last leg. My budget is capped at $500. Also open to netbooks. This will be used as a basic everyday surfing/schoolwork computer.

1/24/2011 5:46:40 PM

^^ that's pretty darn good

[Edited on January 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM. Reason : i would never buy a 17" though]

1/25/2011 10:08:41 AM

in the market for a new laptop. I played with a macbook pro at the apple store recently, love it but is it worth $$$$?

[Edited on January 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ..]

1/26/2011 2:04:45 PM

^no, it's not.

1/26/2011 6:32:25 PM

If anybody doesn't mind buying a used laptop, I'm considering selling mine since I never use it. Bought it so I could install Hackintosh but when I couldnt find all the drivers I gave up.

It's an Asus Republic of Gamers 15.6" 1080p laptop. Nvidia 360M, Core i7-720QM

http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?afsrc=1&EdpNo=5592727&sku=A50-15617&SRCCODE=LSCMPUSA&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-Szbbcw5guzZLWDtyE4uwrQ

I'll restore it and sell it to you for 900. It seriously has around 10-15 hours of total use

[Edited on January 26, 2011 at 7:41 PM. Reason : link]

1/26/2011 7:35:15 PM

^^^ power-wise definitely not. If you're willing to pay for something that is nicer to use without getting the power that a Windows PC will have then yes. For me the keyboard, trackpad (especially), gestures, size, battery life, overall feel, & even the MagSafe power adapter are all things that I'm willing to pay extra for. My needs have changed and I wouldn't pay $1000+ for a Windows laptop but have no problem doing it for a Mac just because I enjoy using them that much more (with OSX, XP, or Win7).

1/26/2011 8:09:08 PM

^^ I would buy it from you, but it looks like it was on sale recently for 999.. whats the warranty on it like btw?

1/26/2011 9:57:17 PM

i read somewhere that apple will be updating macbook pro sometime this april/may....any info on that?

also any suggestions for a cheap netbook while i wait on the new macbook pro?

1/27/2011 11:30:04 AM

^^ it should have about a year and a half left on the warranty. you might be able to get a squaretrade one to extend it for cheap. if you're really interested feel free to PM me an offer.

1/27/2011 11:55:23 AM

^not to poop on your parade but it's already not worth 900. At 800 though I think you could sell it in a heartbeat

Quote :

"keyboard, trackpad (especially), gestures, size, battery life, overall feel, & even the MagSafe power adapter are all things that I'm willing to pay extra for."

HP laptops have the same chiclet keyboard, multitouch trackless with gestures, multitouch SCREENS with gestures, equivalent battery life and aluminum chassis that are laser etched. The mag safe power cord is cool, but it's not 1000 dollars cool.

Oh and I can actually use my laptop on my lap without burning the shit out of myself. And I can still run OSX on it if I really wanted to do so

1/27/2011 3:43:18 PM

^^^It's Apple so your guess is as good as ours. They're pretty good at keeping stuff under wraps until they're ready to release it. They ARE likely to update them and the guess is that they're going to incorporate the flash memory from the MacBook Air line but nothing is known yet.

^HP is pretty much the only kb that I like outside of Apple. Trackpads are not there yet though I agree HP is leading the pack. Gestures in Windows don't compare to gestures in OSX (maybe because it's native to the OS in OSX & usually an add-on of some sort in Windows?). They seem to work much better with Macs. I'm not familiar with many non-netbook Windows laptops with 10 hour battery life so glad to hear that. The aluminum chassis is nice but it's more than that. There's several aluminum (or other metal) laptops that I've tried that still felt cheap (I've found HPs both ways). I definitely agree on the lap burning though it's honestly not an issue unless I'm doing a flash video marathon or multi-tasking while doing photo-editing in LR & PS. Once I find a Windows laptop that I like as much, believe me, I'll switch. I've tried a few times in the past couple of years but always end up returning/selling whichever one I got.

1/27/2011 7:04:43 PM

^It doesn't actually get 10 hours of battery life with any normal usage. It actually only gets 30-45 minutes longer battery life than pretty much any other Core i5/i7 PC laptop with the same screen size. Which again, doesn't justify the price at all. Watching a movie over wifi (aka netflix) will drain a Macbook Pro in 4-5 hours.

The big difference is, with my crummy PC, I can swap in another $40 battery back and keep going for those long trips.

How do gestures not compare? A gesture is a gross-motor movement shortcut to a command. And, on PC trackpads at least, you can set them to whatever the heck you want.

And I wouldn't say the present day Macbook Aluminum chassis feels particularly sturdy. That shit flexes and bends all over the place. They have gotten more and more flimsy every generation.

I came within a day of buying a 13" macbook pro in the fall, but ultimately went with a HP touchsmart TM2 12". In addition to being over $1000 less, I got a multi-touch screen, Wacom digitizer, and a removeable battery. Every other spec/feature matches what the macbook has, and the HP build quality is by far the best I've seen in years (could be this particular model though)

1/27/2011 10:29:55 PM

13" mb/mbp gets 8-10 hours with regular use from me. I don't use the i5 versions though they do get lower battery life. Like Windows laptops, the advertised battery life is going to be at the upper end of what you get. When you're comparing a 10hour Mac to a 6 hour Dell/HP/whatever, you're still going to get substantially better life with the Mac. Based on the reviews of the HP that you bought, I could expect 3-4 hours with wifi on & normal use so that extra battery doesn't do anything but give you the same battery life that I'm already getting. You paid less but I don't have to bother with stopping whatever I'm doing to swap batteries as well as adding more weight to my bag. That's worth $ to me.

Gestures don't compare because they don't compare. So far, I've yet to have one that recognized more than 3 finger gestures & I considered myself lucky if my gesture was recognized 75% of the time. Most of the time you're dealing with a cramped trackpad as well which make gestures more of a pain as well.

I'm happy that you wouldn't say the MB chassis doesn't feel particularly sturdy. I'm pretty sure that I didn't say that either so I'm happy that we agree. Since you brought it up again though I will say that it's better than 95% of the laptops out there. I'm not sure what you consider "flexes and bends all over the place" but I'll assume that you're making a gross exaggeration. The last HP that I used was a 15" model (standard plastic frame) that bent nearly 1/2" when you picked it up by one corner. I'll happily take a little give in the middle instead.

Congrats on the HP but I'm not sure whether you got a hell of a deal or you're just retarded. Looks like the TM2 starts at $800. Since you saved over $1k, I'll assume that you got a nice discount through MS. Hopefully you're not stupid enough to spend $1800+ for a computer that pretty much tops out at $1500. Regardless of the fact, you got a computer with a smaller screen than I want, a touchscreen that I dislike, lower battery life, a trackpad that isn't as good, and resale that's pretty dismal. I'm happy with what I got. In the last 2 years, I've bought 3 macs, 2 HPs, 1 Dell, & 1 Asus. I'm pretty familiar with what's out there on both sides.

BTW, in case you missed it, I'm the one that actually owns the mac. You can stop trying to educate me on how crappy it is now. Like I said before, if you're looking for power or any kind of bang for the buck, macs are a bad choice. If you're willing to pay more for the little things, they may be a great choice.

[Edited on January 27, 2011 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

1/27/2011 11:23:33 PM

Just going to throw in my 2 cents... using my new Dell XPS15 now and loving it. I was looking for similar specs to Wickerman's original post and there aren't that many options out there (at least at a reasonable price) so it was the XPS or the Envy and given the Envy was out of 1080p screens and I stumbled upon an XPS deal for $700 (saved $380) it was an easy choice. I also really considred the Lenovo Thinkpad X201T and Noen's HP TM2 but some of the specs were lacking for my needs, the price was relatively high, and its sort of in the middle of the product lifespan. Plus, I figured I'm going desktop replacement and looking for a dedicated tablet in the next year when more options emerge.

The Dell XPS15 gets knocked for the outdated exterior but I love the keyboard and the screen is a real beauty. I just wish I could get it "clean" from the factory instead of having to manually remove crap, install my base software, and create my own "system restore" image.

1/28/2011 12:40:05 AM

^^ Let's get some things straight, because you just posted a whole bunch-o-bullshit.

The older TM2 model (Core2Duo) like yours got 7-7.5 hours of real world battery life, with a 9.5hr claim. There are at least a dozen PC laptops you can buy now that equal the 8-10hr real world battery life of the mb/mbp.

I routinely get 5.5-6 hours on my TM2. I fly across the country fairly often and have yet to run out of battery on a flight, even with movie marathons.

Quote :

" So far, I've yet to have one that recognized more than 3 finger gestures & I considered myself lucky if my gesture was recognized 75% of the time. Most of the time you're dealing with a cramped trackpad as well which make gestures more of a pain as well."

Mine only supports 3 fingers. I can't say I've ever felt the need for more than 2. The only thing I've ever used 4 finger gestures for was Expose, which doesn't even exist (or need to) on Windows. But yeah you got a finger on me. The trackpad on my 12" HP is 3.85x2.4", the trackpad on a 15" mbp is 4.1x3", and 4.1x2.45" on the mb air. The difference is negligible.

Quote :

"The last HP that I used was a 15" model (standard plastic frame) that bent nearly 1/2" when you picked it up by one corner. I'll happily take a little give in the middle instead."

How bout we compare aluminum/carbon/titanium instead of budget plastic?

Quote :

"Congrats on the HP but I'm not sure whether you got a hell of a deal or you're just retarded. Looks like the TM2 starts at $800. Since you saved over $1k, I'll assume that you got a nice discount through MS. Hopefully you're not stupid enough to spend $1800+ for a computer that pretty much tops out at $1500. Regardless of the fact, you got a computer with a smaller screen than I want, a touchscreen that I dislike, lower battery life, a trackpad that isn't as good, and resale that's pretty dismal. I'm happy with what I got. In the last 2 years, I've bought 3 macs, 2 HPs, 1 Dell, & 1 Asus. I'm pretty familiar with what's out there on both sides."

My total out of pocket cost $997. That got me a Core i5, 8gb ram, 120gb SSD, 2yr warranty et al. The same config in the 13.3" MBP (no i5 option still) comes out to a whopping $2448. So yeah, I saved almost $1500.

How can you dislike a touchscreen vs. not having one? Even if you don't use it, at least I have the OPTION. And I can draw with a pressure sensitive wacom digitizer too . I'd rather have significantly better performance than a battery life thats longer than anyone ever sits in front a computer at a stretch for.

A quick check of ebay shows that MY computer is selling for MORE than I paid for the thing. I'd say the resale value is pretty damn good, actually.

It's pretty apparent to me that you don't do much in the way of research. The only "little" things that you get better in a Mac now are the mag-safe connector, a 4th finger for gestures, risk of burns, and a thousand bucks less in your pocket. At least, according to your posts.

The first gen unibody MBP was pretty damn awesome. Since then they haven't really done shit with them in terms of innovation, but Apple has continued to keep their pricepoint ridiculously high.


^I actually bought a XPS15 and an Envy14 as well, and ended up sticking with the Touchsmart for the Wacom digitizer mostly. Both of them were fucking awesome laptops. Amazing displays (the one thing I do really miss on the touchsmart), brilliant sound, crazy performance and both had WAY better battery life and build quality than I was expecting. You really can't go wrong with either of them, especially if you wait for a sale (got the xps for $1100 loaded with full AP warranty, envy was ~1000).

1/28/2011 7:13:14 AM

^Last post. As usual, you're fucking thick.

A whole dozen PC laptops that equal the 8-10 hour battery life of the mb/mbp? Glad to hear there's such a huge selection out there. You may not need the battery life but I don't buy things based on what the almighty Noen needs. I tend to buy the things that I need and when I'm in meetings that last all day, sitting at the airport before a cross-country flight, or spending the day travelling to job sites, I take advantage of it quite often. Yes I could buy an extra battery for a PC but as I already said, it's worth extra cost to me not to have to. I'm glad that you get 5-6 hours out of your TM2 though. Really, that means a lot to me. I realize now that I've been mistaken all this time and I should base my wants & purchasing decisions around what you want & need.

Thanks for pointing out that your trackpad is smaller & supports fewer fingers. I wish I knew what I was talking about because I would have totally pointed that out earlier.

Why compare aluminum/carbon/titanium if you're just going to bullshit anyway? You say that the mb/mbp is a flexy flier. I called your bullshit and then I specifically said that it's better than 95% of the laptops out there, many of which are using full plastic frames on $1k+ machines.

You paid $997 for your HP when basic config is selling everywhere for $900 w/ an i3, 4gb, 500gb hdd? So what you're saying is that you didn't pay retail for your HP but we should compare that to a mbp at retail? Well gee, that makes a shitload of sense. I also can't find any used TM2's on ebay that have sold for more than $900. Odd but I'll take your word for it that they've sold for more than you paid. Obviously I'm completely wrong and PC's enjoy remarkable resale value. This is best shown by the one above that you recommend selling for more than 20% less than he paid for it. Here I was thinking the 5-10% loss I get on macs was awesome.

So, to finish up, let's just check that again. I have a choice of a dozen laptops to get the battery life that I value. I can buy an HP if I like the feel of a solid chassis. I can buy an HP for the larger trackpad that I value even though it's still smaller, has fewer gestures, & performs worse. Finally, I can call my good buddy Noen before I buy my next PC to find out which one I can get a massive discount on with my MS discount or when it's going out of stock/production. After all of that, I still don't have the mag-safe that would have saved my HP Envy from a fumbling customer, have to buy another battery & go through the hassle of shutting down/swapping/getting back up and running again, and I still get lower resale value. So what you're saying is that everything I'm willing to pay extra for.... pretty much isn't available on a PC? In case you didn't notice, I specifically said pay extra for. I didn't say pay extra for unless I can save money buying something that's not as good in the areas that I pointed out.

Now, we all know that you're dense as fuck but how about you pay attention this time and just shut the fuck up? You've done nothing but point out how your HP is "almost" as good as the stuff that I pointed out which does nothing whatsoever to disprove anything that I've said. I don't want almost. I'm happy that you got something you like. I've tried them. At this point, I still like mbp better. As such, I'm willing to pay more for it. If you don't get it, too bad.

1/28/2011 8:22:45 AM

i'm not reading this thread because it belongs in MY thread, but...

...HP blows

1/28/2011 8:32:17 AM

^^I get it. I totally get it. You ignore facts and confuse your limited experience with knowing the whole market.

1) HP trackpads are the same damn size as the Macbook Air.

2) There are 8 gestures you can do on a Mac, 2 use 4 fingers. PC touchpads support 9 total gestures with 3 fingers. So yes they are comparable.

3) Apple has been blasted for the shitty casing, the heat, and flexy chassis for two gens.

4) Unlike Apple products, PC products go on sale. All the time. I got a deal I found on slickdeals.net. No special employee pricing, nothing shady.

You're either retarded or a liar. Here's a direct link to 15 TM2t's that have sold for over $900 in the last two weeks and that's without the SSD or extra 4gb of memory.

Yes, you can overpay for a PC. No, you don't have to. Every PC I've purchased has held it's resale value as well or better than Apple alternatives.

This isn't about you or me. This is about giving other people real data to make decisions about a laptop purchase.

1/28/2011 5:18:11 PM

somebody should buy my Asus.

1/28/2011 7:45:21 PM

I know I said last post but I lied. For some reason, I just can't help trying to explain how retarded you are.

1. So what you're saying is that the HP trackpad is smaller than the Macbook/Macbook Pro that we've been discussing this whole time? I also realize that not everyone works with numbers every day but 3.85 is smaller than 4.1. So actually the HP trackpad is SMALLER than the trackpad on Apple's 11" MBA. The 13" actually has the larger trackpad. We're also talking about a very very small minority of the PC laptop world here. The very large majority of laptops have trackpads that are MUCH smaller and you know it.

2. 3 gestures use 4 fingers and I use them quite often. I don't know why you think expose is unnecessary on Windows but it'd be just as useful there for me. Also, I notice you keep ignoring the fact that they tend to not work as well (especially on the shitty trackpads that the majority of PC laptops have). So no, they're not comparable.

3. Apple has been blasted? Really? Apple had serious issues with the previous Macbook's casing coming apart and they're still replacing them. So far, the new unibody Macbook hasn't had that issue. The only problem with them is that they use the wonderful polycarbonate that scratches when you look at it crooked. The heat is high but no higher than many PC laptops that I've used and, once again, it's rarely an issue that I have a problem with. Flexy chassis? Really? I tell you what, let's run to Best Buy and measure the flex & play in every laptop they have. Who do you think it going to have the least overall? Please please please show everyone how retarded you are and say "HP". Really. I'm begging you to try to say it with a straight face.

4. Weird, the last mbp & mb that I bought were less than retail. I thought they called it a "sale" but maybe I'm confused about that. Obviously they don't go on sale as much as PCs but that's part of what helps me get so much for them when I resell them. Was the deal you found on slickdeals a model that went out of production? I can't spec a new one out to your specs even on HP's site. Is that the case? For some reason, the new ones don't have SSDs and they're all showing 6 hours of battery life unless you get one of those huge fucking batteries that sticks out a couple of inches. If you want to compare apples to apples, I'd like to make sure we're doing it right.

Congratulations on the ebay link. Shit man, I must be retarded cause I thought we were talking about RESALE value. Now we're going to have a little bit of education. When you discuss resale values, you are talking about stuff that is NOT NEW. So go back to your link and click that pretty little box on the left that says "USED". So how many of those are OVER $900 again?

Now, what was that you were saying about "real data" again? Is that where we distort the argument in hopes that we don't look like a fucking idiot? You know, do things like say a trackpad is the same size as a different computer that's not even being discussed (even though it's actually even smaller)? Is it where we post a link to how much NEW laptops have sold for when discussing resale value? Maybe it's blowing issues out of proportion even though they're actually equivalent or better than their PC counterpart? Well shit man, I guess that backfired.

Now I'll go ahead and say congratulations. I'm sure you'll post again with some more bullshit that is either completely wrong, irrelevant, or pointless. This time, I really am done though. Have fun!

1/28/2011 7:46:24 PM

Once again. I posted data, you posted opinion and interpretation.

1) You said APPLE TRACKPADS, no where was there any mention of a specific model until I posted actual measurements. But nice try in backpedaling. So now it went from "all pcs are cramped" to "small minority". Again you are arguing quantity here, which is fucking stupid.

If there are 10,000 car models, but only two of them come with wheels, it's a fucking stupid point to say "very few cars come with wheels, therefore all cars are inferior to motorcycles". It just means most people will buy one of the few models with wheels. The availability of shitty laptops doesn't mean people actually buy them.

2) According to Apple there are only two. "They tend not to work as well" is a subjective opinion. YOU JUST FUCKING COMPARED THEM YOU MORON. So yes, they are fucking comparable.

3) Yes. The heat is MUCH higher, whether YOU have a problem with it is irrelevant. They are the only laptop manufacturer that actually states: "Do not place your MacBook on your lap or other body surface for extended periods of time. Prolonged body contact can cause discomfort and potentially a burn.". Again you make the same flawed quantity of offering argument. All I have to do is find ONE pc laptop with better build quality to prove my point, and I have provided 3: Dell XPS 15, HP Envy 15, HP Touchsmart TM2.

4) Weird, the same principle applies for both of us. I pay drastically less than retail, I sell for drastically less than retail. Dur. I purchased and installed the SSD myself, and there's only one battery option (6hr). Unlike Macbook Pro's where you void your warranty for upgrading anything other than the RAM.

The one closest to my specs sold for $900. The addition of an SSD drive surely adds at least 1 dollar to that value, you pedantic dumbass. But you know, good try to backpedal, yet again, with yet another flawed argument.

Seriously, your entire line of thinking is so wrought with logical flaws, it's hard to even pick out the nuggets of specific incorrect and exaggerated claims/opinions/impressions.

1/28/2011 8:58:04 PM

lol@this thread

thanks for the info....guess i will post once i get a netbook.

1/28/2011 9:26:44 PM

1. Any apple or just mb/mbp, THEY'RE ALL FUCKING SMALLER. This is 2nd grade shit here man. The absolute smallest Mac trackpad is still LARGER than your mighty HP. Period. The rest of them are EVEN SMALLER. This is a basic concept. Surely even your retarded ass can understand that.

2. That link tells you what they work with, not the action. Expose has 2 actions making for three 4-finger gestures. Also, learn some vocabulary. There's more than 1 meaning to comparable ("Similar or equivalent" being the one I was using). They are not equivalent by your own statements. This also completely ignores the fact that the 4 finger gestures that are not possible on Macs are something that I find to be a bonus which is where this started.

3. Still have the packaging materials for your HP? I really hope so for your sake. I just pulled this from your owner's manual

Quote :

"To reduce the possibility of heat-related injuries or of overheating the computer, do not place the computer directly on your lap or obstruct the computer air vents."

I'm not sure what point it is that you're trying to prove where one computer does it but I never said that Macs have the best build quality so you're not proving shit to me.

4. Apple doen't give a fuck if you replace your hdd. They even provide the instructions you stupid twat: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/MBPRO_13inch_Mid2009_Hard_Drive_DIY.pdf

The one closest to your specs sold for $900. Where's the one that sold for more than you paid? That was your statement, remember?

I think I'll end with a "Have a good weekend" &

Quote :

"Seriously, your entire line of thinking is so wrought with logical flaws, it's hard to even pick out the nuggets of specific incorrect and exaggerated claims/opinions/impressions."

[Edited on January 28, 2011 at 10:22 PM. Reason : correct link]

1/28/2011 10:15:26 PM

1. You said "cramped", not smaller. Big difference. Less than an 1/4" difference doesn't go from being huge to cramped. But keep on backpedaling.

2. What? It lists the specific actions from each gesture. Unless you are being super pedantic and saying that "swiping left" and "swiping right" are two distinct gestures. Hahahahah, putting your foot in your mouth again with saying "Similar or equivalent"? Lets see, they both allow clicking, scrolling, multi-touch gestures, sit in the same physical location, are called the same thing and are used for the same purpose? The only objective difference is one having more distinct (and customizable) gestures, and the other allowing 4 finger gestures.

Are you really this stupid? Yes, they are comparable, we've been fucking comparing them for a dozen posts now, you retard.

3. That says to "reduce the possibility" not DO NOT EVER DO IT. I can (and do) sit with my laptop on my lap for hours at a time, with zero discomfort, it being just warm to the touch. Hahahah, keep on grasping at straws though, dawg.

4. Guess what dawg, you finally got me on something! Apple finally stopped voiding warranties at the end of 2008! Good for you

I actually paid $777.44 for the base laptop. here are two USED ones with the exact same specs that sold for $795 and $900 respetively. And a slower one that sold for $819.

So yes, in spite of your best efforts, I can still make money on it if I so chose. How much profit can you make on your MacBook?

I'm going to be laughing all weekend at how you just spent and entire night comparing two things in conversation about how they cannot be compared. CLASSIC.

1/28/2011 11:28:35 PM

Attn: users<1000 posts..

[Edited on January 28, 2011 at 11:35 PM. Reason : 0]

1/28/2011 11:35:23 PM

Just got this

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6701573&CatId=4938

got it for 1309 with tax and shipping... it has a 1080p screen.. the description on the site is wrong..

2/17/2011 6:23:18 PM

Shit balls almighty this is a good deal for anyone who wants a super high-res and high quality LCD screen

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/48659/dell-epp-dell-xps-15-laptop-core-i72630qm-2ghz-sandy-bridge-15.6-led-1920x1080-640gb-hdd-6gb-ddr3-gt-525m-1gb-6cell-dvd-r-webcam-wifin-win-7-prem-64bit

Quote :

"Dell EPP has Dell XPS 15 Laptop for $980 - $98 with code 6B5L8RX93SG1FT = $882 with free shipping. Thanks gabrielh Specs: 2nd generation Intel Core i7-2630QM 2GHz 15.6" FHD B+RGLED TL Display (1920x1080) NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M 1GB graphics with Optimus 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 Memory 640GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive Skype-Certified 2.0MP HD Webcam 8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 & Bluetooth 3.0 6-cell Lithium Ion Battery Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit"

3/18/2011 5:59:28 PM

^ I jumped on that deal been waiting for it to come down a little in price. Although the ship date is 4/8 which sucks. It is suppose to be a better deal if you need a Streak 5 for $99 more but I didn't have a need for it.

3/20/2011 10:18:45 AM

Gonna buy a new laptop soon (starting grad school, old laptop is 6 years old), and I have it pretty much narrowed down.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157673
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157406

pretty much same model but 14" vs 15.6". I have win 7 ultimate and I'll probably upgrade to 4GB.

Uses: Mostly excel, word, and internet.
Other: I have a pretty nice desktop so this is mostly for mobile computing (no large HDD needed, no photoshop capabilities needed)

My only concern is that newegg lists better battery life with the 15.6" model vs the 14" model, if its the same 6-cell battery, how does that happen?

Should I be worried about going from a 15.6" screen (current laptop) to a 14"?

[Edited on March 27, 2011 at 12:06 AM. Reason : ~$500 budget]

3/27/2011 12:02:30 AM

Quote :

"1) You said APPLE TRACKPADS, no where was there any mention of a specific model until I posted actual measurements. But nice try in backpedaling. So now it went from "all pcs are cramped" to "small minority". Again you are arguing quantity here, which is fucking stupid. If there are 10,000 car models, but only two of them come with wheels, it's a fucking stupid point to say "very few cars come with wheels, therefore all cars are inferior to motorcycles". It just means most people will buy one of the few models with wheels. The availability of shitty laptops doesn't mean people actually buy them. 2) According to Apple there are only two. "They tend not to work as well" is a subjective opinion. YOU JUST FUCKING COMPARED THEM YOU MORON. So yes, they are fucking comparable. "

Uhh… Apple’s trackpad implementation (sw and hw) is MILES above anything other laptops have now. Mostly because Windows doesn’t integrate the gestures in as well as OS X, but also because the drivers the windows manufacturers use are very, very sad. I’ve had to turn of two-finger scrolling on the dells i’ve used because of how pathetic it was.

3/27/2011 11:16:54 AM

Think I'm gonna go with the 15", it has the 10-key number pad.

3/27/2011 3:57:21 PM

Anybody have a preference for Lenovo IdeaPad vs HP Probook? Specs and price are pretty identical.

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/900546/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Z560-0914-42U-Laptop/
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157673

3/27/2011 10:29:32 PM

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3/28/2011 8:58:53 AM

any word on when the sandy bridge processors are hitting the envy 14s?

3/31/2011 12:51:27 AM

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3/31/2011 8:25:44 AM