GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
What are the differences between frying with vegetable oil, corn oil, canola oil, peanut oil, and liquid shortening?
Does it affect: Lifespan of product? Health? Taste?
I've used liquid shortening, vegetable oil, and peanut oil so far and they all take the same amount of time to fry and the food comes out relatively the same. I can notice difference in quality which is reflected in the price, but that's about it.
What should I know? 1/12/2011 12:00:04 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
taste, and flashpoint and 'smokepoint'
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/50/Smoke-Points-of-Various-Fats 1/12/2011 12:05:16 AM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
You should use corn oil. It's cheap.
Unless that shortening is made from partially hydrogenated oils, then go with that instead. 1/12/2011 6:38:52 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
I started substituting vegetable for canola but it's still pretty unhealthy. 1/12/2011 7:59:16 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
My work uses rice bran oil for all its deep frying. Their fried food tastes good so based on that I recommend it. 1/12/2011 9:35:53 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Lets throw in soybean oil too while we're at it. 1/12/2011 9:37:32 AM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
no thread about frying is complete without the mention of Crisco. Do they even sell that anymore? 1/12/2011 9:55:37 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
why would they not sell it? 1/12/2011 10:18:43 AM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know, i don't use it so i haven't noticed if it is still on store shelves or not. 1/12/2011 10:25:31 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I rarely fry shit, but when I do I use either olive or Smart Balance. To me it tastes good to me. 1/12/2011 11:41:26 AM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
i use olive for pan frying, canola for the deep-fryer, and vegetable for the whirley-pop. i think the fries, tots, and hashrounds taste better using canola. 1/12/2011 11:47:59 AM |
BIGcementpon Status Name 11318 Posts user info edit post |
I use peanut oil in my fryer. 1/12/2011 11:48:26 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
i've always heard that peanut oil was the way to go for frying. the only thing we fry is porkchops, & we use peanut oil, & they're really good. haven't tried anything else though.
i saw an episode of some show about this hosted by one of the queer eye for the straight guy dudes. i think they settled on peanut being the best tasting & longest lasting in terms of reuse, but that vegetable oil has the fewest calories. 1/12/2011 11:56:04 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't peanut oil a type of vegetable oil? 1/12/2011 12:17:17 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I rarely fry shit, but when I do I use either olive or Smart Balance. To me it tastes good to me. " |
Isn't the smoking point for olive oil too low to use for deep frying?1/12/2011 12:32:52 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
The last tome I truly fried something, I ended up in the hospital 1/12/2011 12:54:05 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "Here is what the International Olive Oil Council (IOOC) has to say about frying food with olive oil:
When heated, olive oil is the most stable fat, which means it stands up well to high frying temperatures. Its high smoke point (410ºF or 210ºC) is well above the ideal temperature for frying food (356ºF or 180ºC). The digestibility of olive oil is not affected when it is heated, even when it is re-used several times for frying" |
http://www.oliveoilsource.com/page/heating-olive-oil1/12/2011 12:55:39 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Isn't peanut oil a type of vegetable oil?" |
seriously? have you never heard of peanut or vegetable oil?
vs
1/12/2011 1:03:31 PM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
A peanut is not a vegetable. 1/12/2011 1:32:07 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Well how about that. I wonder where I heard it couldn't be used for frying. 1/12/2011 2:17:29 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Quote : | "Some of the many different kinds of edible vegetable oils include: olive oil, palm oil, soybean oil, canola oil, pumpkin seed oil, corn oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, peanut oil, grape seed oil, sesame oil, argan oil and rice bran oil. Many other kinds of vegetable oils are also used for cooking." |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_oil1/12/2011 2:31:49 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus guys, vegetable oil is a catch-all term for any oil derived from plants.
However, I do wonder, what does the OP for example, mean, when he says vegetable oil? He lists canola, and corn separately, and vegetable separately.
I don't know about the US, but where I am, oil which are labeled "vegetable oil" in the supermarkets are palm oil.
Ditch all the ones you listed. Go with these:
Avocado oil Grapeseed oil Rice bran oil
They are very healthy, and have very very high smoke points. You want to be even healthier? Don't do high heat deep frying.
Quote : | ""Here is what the International Olive Oil Council (IOOC) has to say about frying food with olive oil:
When heated, olive oil is the most stable fat, which means it stands up well to high frying temperatures. Its high smoke point (410ºF or 210ºC) is well above the ideal temperature for frying food (356ºF or 180ºC). The digestibility of olive oil is not affected when it is heated, even when it is re-used several times for frying"" |
That must be partially refined. The smoke point of EVOO is much lower.1/12/2011 2:38:58 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Almost everywhere I look the smoke point for EVOO is listed as 375+ 1/12/2011 2:44:52 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
320 here http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/50/Smoke-Points-of-Various-Fats
325 here http://www.spectrumorganics.com/images/uploads/49623ec41cb5b.pdf
You put it in a pan and turn on the hotplate and it starts smoking in a couple of minutes if you turn it up high, so I wonder how it would survive deep frying.
EDIT:
375 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point
320 here http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/CollectedInfo/OilSmokePoints.htm
[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM. Reason : ] 1/12/2011 2:51:07 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I've never heard of anyone deep frying with it, but a quick search just kept turning up higher #s. 1/12/2011 2:55:15 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
have you never been to the grocery store before?? if you go to the oil section, there are bottles clearly labeled VEGETABLE OIL. i don't know wtf oils are blended, but it's not canola & it's not peanut because it's not labeled as canola or peanut (or corn or anything else). it's labeled vegetable. there are separate bottles labeled peanut and canola and corn, etc. if you don't believe me, go look.
i know you're trying to make the point that peanut oil can be classified as vegetable oil, but you are missing my point that there is a separate product labeled vegetable oil. ] 1/12/2011 3:17:50 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You put it in a pan and turn on the hotplate and it starts smoking in a couple of minutes if you turn it up high, so I wonder how it would survive deep frying." |
Yeah, exactly. I'm having a hard time envisioning deep frying with olive oil based on a few incidents of turning the heat too high when stir frying with it 1/12/2011 4:18:13 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
seems like deep frying with olive oil would be $$TEXAS compared to vegetable or canola oil 1/12/2011 6:09:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I did say this:
Quote : | "I don't know about the US, but where I am, oil which are labeled "vegetable oil" in the supermarkets are palm oil." |
I just didn't think that there would be a stupid shitty product called "vegetable oil" in the US as well.
Just looked it up... it is soybean oil. I guess "vegetable oil" is oil of whatever is grown ubiquitously in a given country. In the US it is soybean oil, and where I am, it is palm oil.
http://www.crisco.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?GroupID=15&ProdID=303
All are shitty for health. Any oil that is so nearly colorless and uniform has been subjected to high heat, chemicals, and bleaches during processing. And then they sell them in such transparent bottles!
Canola, soybean, corn, cottonseed, sunflower, safflower, peanut, bin them all. If you can find virgin cold-pressed varieties of those oils, go ahead... they will have a pronounced flavor and color, and will be sold in dark bottles.
For the OP, they have these:
http://www.crisco.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?GroupID=15&ProdID=847 http://www.crisco.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?GroupID=15&ProdID=3111/12/2011 7:33:08 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "vegetable oil has the fewest calories" |
you can't post about oil if you are going to say this. that's like saying sugar from sugar beets has fewer calories than sugar from sugarcane.
all oil is 14 grams fat per tbsp. and 14 grams fat is ~130 calories.1/12/2011 8:30:37 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
I use safflower in my cast iron, because I like to turn up the heat on them and that oil is helps minimize smoking. 1/12/2011 8:37:57 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
I was really more addressing David0603. Obviously he's never been grocery shopping
Also, I said the TV SHOW HOST said that vegetable oil was better... 1/12/2011 8:42:44 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
You can obviously use any oil for frying, but I don't know why anyone would use good olive or grapeseed oil for deep frying. I keep olive oil by the fridge and use it for about everything else though (still use butter for grits, baking, sauces, some other things where oil would be weird). 1/12/2011 10:11:26 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "seems like deep frying with olive oil would be $$TEXAS compared to vegetable or canola oil" |
I know right. Unless you could reuse it 200 times or so1/13/2011 12:36:40 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Extra Virgin Olive Oil is not suitable for use in high-temperature cooking. Refined olive oil is. 1/13/2011 9:28:06 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
peanut oil is the best for frying/searing because it won't smoke your kitchen up. use canola oil for baking and olive oil for seasoning (like pasta and salad). corn/vegetable oil is the bottom of the barrel imo 1/13/2011 9:32:43 AM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
i used peanut oil for deep frying turkey
olive oil or butter for normal day to day cooking
rarely use generic vegetable oil for anything at all 1/13/2011 9:47:31 AM |