Anyone been there in Cary? I remember going in there once in the late-90s and thinking it seemed like a puppy mill front. I can't believe it's still around

1/14/2011 1:32:30 PM

yeah ive been there. plenty of people in Cary are willing to put up $800+ for puppies will tend to keep you in business.

Not sure where they get their dogs from but i'm sure someone has already checked into it....

1/14/2011 1:36:50 PM

threadworthy?

1/14/2011 1:37:38 PM

anyone who pays money for any animal needs a brain scan.

1/14/2011 1:38:06 PM

^^^ They apparently get them from a puppy mill in Kansas that has a bad rep all over the internet. It's really sad. For some reason I thought NC has regulations against this sort of thing but I guess not.

1/14/2011 1:43:44 PM

I got a pretty badass hamster there one time.

RIP Sammy

1/14/2011 2:00:12 PM

Sammy Sweetheart

1/14/2011 2:02:04 PM

I read the title as pee pad for some reason.

1/14/2011 2:05:31 PM

1/14/2011 2:10:14 PM

^^ I'm sure they sell those there too

1/14/2011 2:11:55 PM

is this the place off/near Kildaire?

1/14/2011 2:25:19 PM

I worked there six yrs ago. So did pp. As far as I know the pups are legit. They're all vaccinated and never had serious health issues besides maybe a luxating patella here and there. The owners actually care about the animals to take proper care of them

I got my dog there. He's awesome.

1/14/2011 2:39:03 PM

pet stores suck

when you buy at a pet store you're sentencing another animal to death

1/14/2011 2:40:33 PM

So do backyard breeders. We should only adopt pets that were born because shitty owners didn't fix their pets and let them run loose and fuck. Or the ones that people didn't want anymore.

1/14/2011 2:44:05 PM

i'm all for spca and adoption. but my next dog will be from a breeder. jus sayin.....................

1/14/2011 2:49:14 PM

That's where I got mine from. There's something to be said for knowing the health background, temperament, size, longevity, etc. of the dog's parents, grand parents, etc. I could not be happier with Dimitri, and the quality of his ancestry has a lot to do with how he turned out.

That said, there's a very good chance my next dog will be a shelter puppy, because I do believe in rescuing dogs.

1/14/2011 2:53:04 PM

If I wanted a specific breed, i'd obviously go to a breeder (at some point I would probably like a true mastif), but I really do think more people should look into adopting

even more people should get their damn dogs spayed or neutered. I think only show dogs and purebreds, or prestigious lines of working dogs should be capable to breed.

1/14/2011 2:56:03 PM

my mom got fucked over my a golden retriever breeder in snow camp. mom told her she wanted the calmest one from the litter, darker golden if possible. when she went to pick her new pup up, the breeder said, "this one's great for you. you've got those 12 acres for her to run on." this should have been a warning sign.

the dog doesn't have the personality of a golden at all. she's super dominant, absolutely NUTS, & doesn't listen at all. nothing at all like the golden i grew up with, or any of the others i've known. turns out she also has an inverted vulva...something that is easily noticed/diagnosed as a pup (by a vet), but completely missed in chelsea's case. over the last several months she's started getting horrible bladder infections & has crystals. poor girl. so she's going to have to have a vulvoplasty now at 3 years old, which her vet says would have been much better to do when she was a little puppy.

my brother teases my mom for buying a $1400 defective dog. we love her anyway though.

anyway, point of the story is that even if you buy a "top of the line" purebred dog from a really nice/respected breeder, you might not end up with what you were expecting.



[Edited on January 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ]

1/14/2011 3:48:04 PM

I wouldn't buy a bird from a pet store but I've never gotten my own dog.

1/14/2011 4:18:20 PM

I don't think theres anything wrong with getting a purebred but there is something wrong with getting a puppy mill dog. That's what youre getting with Pet Pad. The fact that so many breeds come from the same breeder should be a big red flag. That kennel has also been sited numerous times by the USDA. It's not so much the puppies at the shop that's the issue but the poor dogs they came from

1/15/2011 10:13:50 AM

They get them from a broker, who gets them from other breeders as well as the few breeds they have.

1/15/2011 10:15:03 AM

Puppy mills are

I guess getting a well-known breed for its temperament doesn't help much when you don't know the parents.

1/15/2011 12:23:03 PM

^^ The brokers in turn get the puppies from mills. If you look up that breeder's USDA record it's not too hot either.

Dog auctions also make me

http://www.whas11.com/home/The-undercover-world-of-puppy-auctions-94783994.html

3/9/2011 8:19:22 PM

part of the blurb for that video says

"a place where dogs are bought and sold like livestock"

why is it okay to treat cows and pigs like shit but not puppies? i don't condone any of this shady shit for any sort of animal, but an animal is not more valuable because it is cute.

3/9/2011 8:24:50 PM

hell, some people pay more for the ugly ones.

3/9/2011 8:26:05 PM

we just went in there for a little. tons of cute dogs.

Welsh Corgi puppies ftw

3/9/2011 8:34:10 PM

Quote :

"why is it okay to treat cows and pigs like shit but not puppies? i don't condone any of this shady shit for any sort of animal, but an animal is not more valuable because it is cute. "

Agreed.

3/9/2011 9:00:00 PM

Pet Pad is great entertainment for my two daughters. It's like a free indoor zoo to kids under 5.

Sad that Arnie died last month though. He was a cool bird.

3/10/2011 8:51:03 AM

i'm all about rescuing.
however, due to my own reasons (some legit, and some admittedly stupid) i got carter from petpad....



and let it be known i fucking LOVE that dog.

3/10/2011 8:58:49 AM

It's not so much about rescue vs purebred. It's the abysmal conditions the bitches are kept in their entire lives to produce pet store puppies There are plenty of legit breeders one can go to instead.

3/10/2011 9:03:27 AM

Oh damn! I didn't know arnie died! He was awesome.

3/10/2011 9:06:27 AM

and that is completely understandable.



i had carters birthline and all that crap but lost it in the move (i dont really care, not like im gonna show her or anything) ...but she has absolutely spoiled me.
i do believe i will be wanting another shitzu (god forbid) the day she passes

3/10/2011 9:08:45 AM

whats the name of the puppy mill?

3/10/2011 9:09:08 AM

+1, if you buy a pet store pup you might as well be torturing the dogs parents yourself.

3/10/2011 9:09:13 AM

Against my better judgment (read: total SUCKER) I got my bunny from pet pad
He passed away last weekend but I'm happy knowing he lived a long happy life full of veggies, outside time, belly-cooling and hanging out in my lap getting generally spoiled. I gave him a good life



[Edited on March 10, 2011 at 9:11 AM. Reason : Wickett the bunneh]

3/10/2011 9:10:34 AM

You can find the broker name online.

Unfortunately bloodlines and crap can be falsified, especially if done with one of those AKC wannabe registries. The best thing to do is buy from a breeder that will let you into the home and will let you meet the puppy parents. Seeing the parents' gives a good idea of temperment. If you are really lucky the grandparents will be on site too. Personally I wouldn't bother buying from a breeder that doesn't have a CHIC number for their sire and dam either. The CHIC lets you look up all their health testing to make sure they're healthy. This is especially important in breeds with problems like hip dysplasia etc.

3/10/2011 9:17:11 AM

heh i had no clue.


luckily i got carters bloodline tested
100%






[Edited on March 10, 2011 at 9:37 AM. Reason : told you she spoiled me-i wanna make sure she was all shitzu if i ever have to get another (shudder)]

3/10/2011 9:18:10 AM

and your $$$ helped pay the light bill at the puppy mill

3/10/2011 9:23:59 AM

"BJ and Guys kennel"

thats the name of it...i think (that doesnt ring a bell with me)

unfortunately i cant find any pics or hard core evidence though :/
just people claiming that they are

(i am in no way saying that they arent, they probably more than certainly are, im just lookin)

3/10/2011 9:27:10 AM

^^^ I'm sure she is purebred. I meant more that theres no guarantee on the health of the parents, inbreeding, etc. Go on youtube and do a search for puppy mill videos and it will make you

You can look up their record with the USDA.

[Edited on March 10, 2011 at 9:29 AM. Reason : F]

3/10/2011 9:27:41 AM

dont worry, ive seen puppy mill videos, im sure most people have
(damn you animal cops, damn you)



[Edited on March 10, 2011 at 9:34 AM. Reason : but yeah, i was just looking to...look. but i gotta go. long long day &i really wanna lil sleep ]

3/10/2011 9:28:17 AM

Quote :

""why is it okay to treat cows and pigs like shit but not puppies? i don't condone any of this shady shit for any sort of animal, but an animal is not more valuable because it is cute.""

Seriously? We're eating puppies now, too? I thought cows were generally valued for their food content, and puppies mostly for their cuteness content. A cow that can't make a good burger isn't generally adopted as a pet, and a dog that isn't man's best friend isn't made into stir fry.

Treat with respect, yes. Valued equally, no.

3/10/2011 10:36:49 AM

that was a solid 64th post

3/10/2011 10:57:35 AM

Quote :

" A cow that can't make a good burger isn't generally adopted as a pet,"

i know plenty of people who have had pet cows growing up....

Just b/c your culture doesn't value a certain animal doesn't mean others don't.

And yes some cultures would turn your puppy into a stir fry

3/10/2011 12:24:32 PM

A message from the owners of Pet Pad :

Quote :

"Some folks here seem to be getting their information only from Animal Rights groups. It is hard to watch the horrible videos and pictures they post in order to get you to send them money. But those images don't represent ALL breeders. Look at the people in the occupations you are in, are there good ones and bad ones? Do you think it's fair if some group trying to raise money decided to lump you in with the bad people in your industry? You have to keep in mind that groups like Peta and HSUS don't want anyone to own animals for any purpose..food, entertainment or pets. It's also unfair to lump Sharon, our breeder, in with bad breeders. Yes..she is a large-scale breeder..but that doesn't automatically mean she doesn't care properly for her dogs. She does have a vet. on-site, she does DNA-testing on her male dogs. She does OFA testing on many of her larger breeds. We have been carrying her puppies for 16 years, and have been very happy with the their quality and health. Following the rules and being conscientious costs a lot of money. A bad breeder isn't going to pay for those things. Many of the bad web comments you will find about Sharon are coming from radical animal rights groups. We don't lie about our puppies' health as some insinuate. All our puppies get a health exam from our vet before they are sold. Customers are given every bit of information on health, vaccinations, source etc before they make their decision. They are also required to read a "Things to Consider" booklet which outlines many of the negative aspects of dog ownership. This way, customers are forced to think about their decision a little more. As with any living creature, some of our puppies turn out to have health issues. That is why we have a health guarantee. We guarantee against hereditary and congenital health problems for a year. We pay vet bills up to the price of the puppy. Our guarantee may not be life-time, but it's more than most private breeders will give you. And North Carolina has zero laws regarding the purchase of animals. So any protection you get is what the breeder/store will give you. If you're against anyone selling animals for a profit, that's fine. Just make sure you are consistent and rail against farmers too..who raise the food you eat. We want to encourage the pet/people bond. We feel that our pets add a lot to the lives of our customers."

*This info was sent to me in response to an email I sent.

3/11/2011 12:21:57 PM

Quote :

"Seriously? We're eating puppies now, too? I thought cows were generally valued for their food content, and puppies mostly for their cuteness content. A cow that can't make a good burger isn't generally adopted as a pet, and a dog that isn't man's best friend isn't made into stir fry."

AMERICUHHH

maybe you should take a break from eating mcdonalds and spend some time in a non-western country.

3/11/2011 2:38:44 PM

^^ Man if that is the only testing she does why in the world do they charge what they do for their puppies

3/11/2011 2:58:17 PM

I enjoy hearing about what people believe in but don't actually act upon it. 'I believe in rescuing dogs, but no mine is a breeder'

Hypocritical

3/11/2011 3:15:05 PM

Quote :

"It's not so much about rescue vs purebred. It's the abysmal conditions the bitches are kept in their entire lives to produce pet store puppies There are plenty of legit breeders one can go to instead. "

3/11/2011 3:21:03 PM

^^but who isn't hypocritical?
do you act on everything you believe in?

if so, then i concede quietly to my corner....

[Edited on March 11, 2011 at 3:28 PM. Reason : not tryin to start a fight, im just saying... ]

[Edited on March 11, 2011 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ps i acknoledge that there is a chance carter came from a puppy mill. prolly a good one!]

3/11/2011 3:27:21 PM