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mrfrog

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http://gigaom.com/broadband/bandwidth-com-launches-a-better-broadband-map/

Out of the top 10 worst cities for price of broadband per Mbps

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"1 Anchorage, AK $65.50
2 Greensboro, NC $62.03
3 Winston-Salem, NC $61.86

4 Columbia, SC $61.35
5 Raleigh, NC $60.98
6 Cary, NC $59.53
7 Durham, NC $59.18
8 Wilmington, NC $56.83
9 Charlotte, NC $52.73

10 Shreveport, LA $52.72"


NC seems to be representing.

Currently, NC house bill 129, "Level Playing Field/Local Gov't Competition", is somewhere in the legislative process. It would restrict what community broadband can do. In principle, it makes sense - don't let government subsidize networks. Here's a video about this stuff, which I can only assume was produced by hippie scum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMGdZD9qQxo

Thank gawd TWW is still using decade old technology, not missing much here! What say the rest of you?

[Edited on March 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM. Reason : ]

3/30/2011 8:35:17 PM

BobbyDigital
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look at those numbers, think about what you're paying for your broadband and try again.

for 10mbps I am not paying $591.80/month.

3/30/2011 8:37:00 PM

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http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/nc-anti-municipal-broadband-bill-receives-state-house-approval/2011-03-29

3/30/2011 8:39:24 PM

quagmire02
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i pay $30/month and i'm getting more than 1Mbps

i'm also pretty happy with TWC, so that probably puts me in the minority

3/30/2011 9:00:26 PM

eleusis
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If you look at cost of broadband per Mbps, Wilson is one ofthe cheapest in the country. Apparently that infuriates our state government.

3/30/2011 9:08:38 PM

Punter16
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According to that I should be paying somewhere around $1200 a month for my RoadRunner, I'm actually paying about $1165 less than that

3/30/2011 9:13:04 PM

LoneSnark
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Same for me. In Cary it claims I should be paying $714.36, I actually pay $45 for 12mbps. Maybe they mean per year? But even there they are $180 over.

3/30/2011 9:54:36 PM

TKE-Teg
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I dunno about you guys but when I paid for 13Mbps download speed from TWC I never was able to clock it at night at faster than 1.0Mbps.

Regardless, they must have calculated it in some weird manner.

3/30/2011 11:26:36 PM

eleusis
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everyone in here bragging about their cheap internet should post their garbage upload speeds. What you pay for is almost never what you get.

3/30/2011 11:46:57 PM

Ernie
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SC just passed an anti-municipal broadband bill btw

And I'd pay $591.80/month to be able to play a fucking youtube video with any sort of reliability

3/30/2011 11:53:27 PM

markgoal
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Are you going to explain why you listed cities served primarily by Timewarner as a counter-argument to municipal broadband?

3/31/2011 6:37:13 AM

Grandmaster
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I pay 29.99/mo for 10/1.5

3/31/2011 7:13:48 AM

Jrb599
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I think it's a measure of what you actually get to what you paid.

I was paying $39.99 for 10mbps down; however I was only getting 0.5 mbps down.

3/31/2011 7:30:24 AM

quagmire02
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Quote :
"everyone in here bragging about their cheap internet should post their garbage upload speeds. What you pay for is almost never what you get."

this is with me remoting into my HTPC, so i don't know if that affects the speeds...that ping is pretty awful



haha, i like the D+ rating...i don't really care, though, as i'm getting pretty close to the advertised 7Mbps down (i don't care about up) and it's only $30/month

*shrug*

[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 8:40 AM. Reason : image]

3/31/2011 8:39:23 AM

disco_stu
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Serious math fail in the OP.

3/31/2011 9:24:12 AM

mrfrog

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^^ where to test?

3/31/2011 9:32:08 AM

Doss2k
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I've never had a problem pulling near 10 Mbps down on TWC in Cary... I wonder though the chances of pulling the full amount on any of their new higher tier services.

As a side note hopefully everyone in here knows the difference between Mbps and MBps when doing their calculations.

3/31/2011 9:36:09 AM

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the address is in the image.

I'm not paying for anything extra, so I'm not too dissatisfied with the speed.

[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 9:37 AM. Reason : :]

3/31/2011 9:36:46 AM

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3/31/2011 10:42:50 AM

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3/31/2011 10:50:04 AM

quagmire02
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^ THAT'S NOT YOUR HOME SERVICE

here's mine from home...much better ping

3/31/2011 10:52:46 AM

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Bandwidth.com (the people who did the calculations) is based in RTP. I'm wondering if it's a coincidence that 7 out of the top 10 "worst" cities are located in North Carolina.

And yeah, those numbers make no sense.

3/31/2011 11:01:10 AM

djeternal
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Greensboro, $49.28/mo

3/31/2011 11:01:37 AM

Grandmaster
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My ISP has always been generous with overhead. I forgot I lost 500k when I downgraded from 15/1.5. I think the tiers are 1.5/768, 10/1, 15/1.5, 20/2, 50/3.

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"running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 882.0kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 10.41Mb/s
Your PC is connected to a Cable/DSL modem
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link
"


3/31/2011 11:03:36 AM

Jeepin4x4
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can't wait to test my 3 Mbps down AT&T U-Verse connection this weekend.

3/31/2011 11:07:04 AM

mrfrog

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http://speedtest.net/

3/31/2011 11:53:14 AM

LoneSnark
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I get what I'm paying for 24/7. The beauty of FTTN + dedicated link through U-Verse.


[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 12:01 PM. Reason : .,.]

3/31/2011 11:59:01 AM

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Bandwidth.com did a blog post on how they calculated those numbers. Long story short, TWC has shitty upload speeds and that skews the results. They should have based the report on only the download speeds.


http://blog.broadband.com/2011/03/30/north-carolina-broadband-value-behind-the-numbers/

3/31/2011 4:24:18 PM

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^ Are you claiming that upload speeds don't matter? Why shouldn't they be considered?

I'd love faster upload speeds for my home connection.

3/31/2011 4:26:52 PM

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I just think they skew the results. They should have two tables, one for upload and one for download. As it is, those numbers make no sense. Download is obviously more important that upload...most home users probably don't even know they have a slow upload speed because they rarely use it.

3/31/2011 4:37:17 PM

eleusis
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upload speeds are more important for a lot of businesses. everyone offers fast download speeds but will take all day to email a file.

3/31/2011 4:38:20 PM

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~55 a month

3/31/2011 4:40:58 PM

disco_stu
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Surely they aren't equally important to residential consumers. It's obvious that they skew the numbers since everyone in the thread was like "WTF".

3/31/2011 4:42:04 PM

BobbyDigital
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Quote :
"Upload and download speeds factor equally in our calculations."


Yeah and that's where it loses credibility.

Certainly, the uploads that TWC gives us are abyssmal, but residential customers do not need symmetric bandwidth.

3/31/2011 4:50:10 PM

Punter16
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TWC 7Mbps RoadRunner in Raleigh, $35 a month......it's usually around the 20Mbps mark but 7:30PM is kind of peak time and it slows down a bit

[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 7:37 PM. Reason : ]

3/31/2011 7:36:44 PM

Arab13
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"Currently, NC house bill 129, "Level Playing Field/Local Gov't Competition", is somewhere in the legislative process. It would restrict what community broadband can do. In principle, it makes sense - don't let government subsidize networks. Here's a video about this stuff, which I can only assume was produced by hippie scum."


i dont recall which town has it off hand but their is one, where TWC refused, when asked to, provide broad band internet access. the town then went out and formed their own isp and provides service (several times faster) for the community.

THAT is what the bill is trying to block, basically allowing the ISP's to be the only dictators of price (which has not gone down, unlike your cell phone bill and land line phone bill) a certain level of government competition might just get them off their collective asses and providing a service to us that isn't 75% steaming pile.

when it comes to 'advanced countries' our internet access is piss poor.

3/31/2011 7:42:35 PM

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Denver prices:
30Mbps for $60, ~$2 per Mbps (non-bundle price) via Comcast Cable
40Mbps for $60, or ~$1.50 per Mbps via Qwest if I went DSL

3/31/2011 8:00:45 PM

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If you're talking about Wilson and Greenlight, I was under the assumption that TWC was already providing TV and internet, just not to the town's satisfaction. So they eventually borrowed a metric shit ton of money and rolled out FTTH. There's actually an active municipal broadband thread over in Soap Box right now.

As the weeks pass I'm quickly realizing just all that is involved in getting service to new construction.

3/31/2011 8:07:06 PM

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holy shit snacks i knew it was bad but never that bad.

haha but i dont even think they promise any certain mb/s.. they just say "fast" internet.. compared to dial up

[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM. Reason : definately gonna look at switching that shit if i can get actual cable that isnt a package...]

3/31/2011 8:46:22 PM

Førte
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19.99/mo

3/31/2011 9:14:26 PM

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4/1/2011 12:00:35 AM

Prospero
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^^with a bundle?

4/1/2011 12:07:44 AM

Jrb599
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Back when I had RR Turbo



[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 7:06 AM. Reason : ]

4/1/2011 7:06:24 AM

mrfrog

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4/1/2011 9:55:09 AM

mrfrog

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5W-9AtL6k

250 Mbps upload... awesomely 1000x faster than the slow ones posted

4/1/2011 11:38:20 AM

Grandmaster
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Lol that's like when mellocj would post his results in the speedtest thread and the server would be tranquil hosting.

4/1/2011 2:24:24 PM

Førte
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"^^with a bundle?"


nope, I just call them and bitch every 6 months and get a new promo added when my current one expires

4/1/2011 2:51:08 PM

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http://gigaom.com/broadband/how-it-feels-to-have-been-passed-over-by-google/
Mar. 31, 2011, 5:00am PT

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"Chip Rosenthal headed the grass roots effort to bring Google’s gigabit fiber network to Austin, and he says the Texas capital was on the short list of cities that received a site visit and were in the final rounds. Unfortunately for Austin (and me since I’d be happy to plug into a fiber-to-the-home network) Google passed over the city and chose Kansas City, Kan. instead.

Rosenthal, who is one of seven commissioners on the City of Austin’s Technology and Telecommunications Commission (a strictly advisory body), thinks it’s because Texas is one of four states that forbids municipalities from getting involved in building networks. And North Carolina is in the middle of approving barriers to municipal broadband deployment this week."

4/1/2011 2:56:02 PM

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Jealous? NTC @ Usuites

4/1/2011 4:24:22 PM

evan
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i mean, mine doesn't suck.

4/1/2011 4:37:28 PM

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