Has anyone heard anything official!?!? The rumor in my circle is that we're getting paid through the 8th (on the 15) and then to expect back pay.

Anyone got anything?

4/7/2011 4:10:59 PM

That's what I heard on the news this morning.

4/7/2011 4:14:13 PM

This is relevant to my interests. If the government doesn't fix anything, the budget will get shut down midnight Friday, so I assume we will get paid for time we worked up until then. After that, fuck if I know.

(I say 'we' because I work for a military contract company)

4/7/2011 5:07:08 PM

If the budget (or at least a temporary fix) does not get approved by COB Friday, our mid month pay will be 1 Apr - 8 Apr...yay.

Also, due to how some bases are set up, some DECA (commissaries) and Exchanges might be closed until the budget is approved.

[Edited on April 7, 2011 at 5:13 PM. Reason : a]

4/7/2011 5:12:15 PM

So if you stop getting paid, can you leave does that mean you're AWOL or deserting? Actually curious here.

[Edited on April 7, 2011 at 5:32 PM. Reason : I assume you can't just up and walk off like any other regular schmoe would]

4/7/2011 5:27:58 PM

Yes, we'd be considered AWOL. We are to report to work as normal.

4/7/2011 5:32:18 PM

^fucking lame

4/7/2011 5:32:42 PM

We'd get back pay when the budget does get approved.

4/7/2011 5:34:00 PM

still though

Just another reason I'm not cut out for the military

4/7/2011 5:35:15 PM

It's not a big deal, I don't live paycheck to paycheck.

4/7/2011 5:36:59 PM

there is a GOP stopgap proposal to fund DOD but democrats are criticizing it as a ploy to use soldiers as a tool for the GOP to push their budget through

4/7/2011 5:41:45 PM

I don't really give a shit about the paycheck (personally...it's gonna screw a lot of people, particularly the younger guys who don't have much put away). I'm waiting on my orders to move this summer, though, and they won't give them to me until a budget is passed so that the moves are funded.

I therefore can't do anything in terms of putting my house up for sale or rent, or generally planning my life for the next few months. I have a feeling that once the budget is passed, my orders are gonna come out, and it's gonna be "Surprise! You're moving in 3 weeks. Good luck!"

4/7/2011 6:12:36 PM

Quote :

"there is a GOP stopgap proposal to fund DOD but democrats are criticizing it as a ploy to use soldiers as a tool for the GOP to push their budget through"

The 'stopgap' is a full budget for DOD through September and a week-long stopgap for the rest of the government.

[Edited on April 7, 2011 at 6:26 PM. Reason : all because of a pathological dislike of planned parenthood ]

4/7/2011 6:24:59 PM

Anyone who doesn't see this as a stunt is wildly misguided. The GOP is using the military to sneak in their ideological dogma and it's disgusting. I listened to Boortz, Rush and Hannity today and none of those idiots would acknowledge WHY the president said he would veto this measure but rather focused solely on "Obama doesn't want to pay the troops". . .

4/7/2011 6:37:26 PM

At least their ideology and dogma--in this instance, anyway--is to take at least a tiny step towards complying with the U.S. Constitution, being fiscally responsible, and reducing the scope and intrusiveness of the federal government.

It's a drop in the bucket, and the GOP will fuck up 100 other things soon enough, but good for them for being obstinate on this one.

4/7/2011 7:07:51 PM

House bill passed.

It's in Senator Reid's and the President's hands now.

People will know who led to the shutdown.


Please, HockeyRoman, tell us why the President is going to veto a bill (as if the Senate Democrats would even pass the bill) that will keep the Federal Government from shutting down.

And please keep in mind why this is happening in the first place.

4/7/2011 7:16:18 PM

If Planned Parenthood stops getting federal funding, then everything will be right with the world.

4/7/2011 7:17:43 PM

This wouldn't even be an issue if the republicans hadn't attached their social agenda riders to this bill. The President has already agreed to a number of fiscal cuts but that wasn't good enough for the far-right tea-bagger loons and they are holding the rest of the republicans by the balls.

4/7/2011 7:26:30 PM

I didn't mean to turn this into the soapbox, but thanks for the info. Yea I feel bad for the E-3's and such who probably don't have the $$$ saved up to float too long. Or the E-5 with 2 kids!

4/7/2011 7:36:21 PM

Quote :

"I'm waiting on my orders to move this summer, though, and they won't give them to me until a budget is passed so that the moves are funded."

Not necessarily.chembob just got his orders on Wednesday for a move this summer.

Quote :

""Surprise! You're moving in 3 weeks. Good luck!""

I sincerely hope that doesn't happen to you! Good luck on getting orders.

For the most up to date information on the affect of the shut down on military pay, http://www.dfas.mil/ I suggest checking out the FAQ page.



[Edited on April 7, 2011 at 7:44 PM. Reason : ]

4/7/2011 7:42:15 PM

reid said no

4/7/2011 7:58:44 PM

^^ Is he moving overseas or something?

A few high-priority moves are getting approved. If you're moving within CONUS, out of the operational forces and into a B-billet, you're gonna be very low on the priority scale, and probably won't get any orders until a budget (or at least FY11 DoD funding) is passed.

4/7/2011 8:42:52 PM

http://intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=90757

4/7/2011 8:57:10 PM

^^ Nope, San Diego.

4/7/2011 10:14:07 PM

Quote :

"“We’ve been close on the cuts for days,” Harry Reid, the Democratic Senate majority leader, said Thursday, adding, “The only things — I repeat, the only things — holding up an agreement are two of their so-called social issues: women’s health and clean air.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/us/politics/08riders.html

4/7/2011 11:07:03 PM

Should be getting my orders this week.

But my next assignment is a critical one, like the rest of my classmates.

4/7/2011 11:21:33 PM

Can't the Senate pass a bill w/o those items?

4/7/2011 11:22:30 PM

Quote :

"At least their ideology and dogma--in this instance, anyway--is to take at least a tiny step towards complying with the U.S. Constitution, being fiscally responsible, and reducing the scope and intrusiveness of the federal government. It's a drop in the bucket, and the GOP will fuck up 100 other things soon enough, but good for them for being obstinate on this one."

+1

4/7/2011 11:30:48 PM

this shit pushed back my ship date 2 days

4/7/2011 11:35:50 PM

The abortion and clean air things will have to be taken out or we could be looking at another three week shutdown (like with Clinton). Also, Congress has their two week easter vacation coming up the week after next.......Do you REALLY except Dems to approve this bill that is against the party's pro choice stance? Really?!?!?!?! That was all smoke and mirrors by the GOP. It had no chance to ever pass anything but the House. I have read that the wording on the abortion rider is being changed. It will probably be so vague that it will be useless. The Senate will pass their version (clean bill), then what usually happens is the a several members from both chambers get together and try to come up with one bill that would then have to be passed by both chambers.

I thought the budget war was going to happen for FY12, since it looks like the parties are trillions apart.

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM. Reason : w]

4/8/2011 1:57:58 AM

Quote :

"reducing the scope and intrusiveness of the federal government."

except when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, and muslims.

4/8/2011 8:17:02 AM

Except that not federally funding abortions hardly constitutes intrusiveness, and nobody's mentioned anything about the other two.

4/8/2011 9:00:32 AM

federally funding abortions is not, and has not been, an issue here.



[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 AM. Reason : the ACA has already made it clear that no federal funds will be used for abortions. ]

4/8/2011 9:08:13 AM

That's all Planned Parenthood does--administer abortions. They seduce gravid women with lascivious images of bloody coat-hangers.

4/8/2011 9:26:42 AM

I wish Planned Parenthood would persuade more women to have abortions.

4/8/2011 9:30:24 AM

props on "gravid"

4/8/2011 9:30:57 AM

"distended with or full of eggs"

nice.

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 10:02 AM. Reason : .]

4/8/2011 10:01:51 AM

I'd rather the government pay for an abortion than pay 18 years worth of welfare.

4/8/2011 10:27:49 AM

https://www.navyfederal.org/about/government.php

Quote :

"For over 75 years, Navy Federal has been there to serve its members' financial needs. If a government shutdown does occur, your credit union has programs in place to help you through this time of uncertainty. Here are some topics that may be of interest in the event of a government shutdown. Help with day-to-day expenses. We have many options to help you through a shutdown and beyond. Navy Federal will cover the 15 April payroll for those active duty members who have their direct deposit of pay at the credit union. Details regarding subsequent adjustments concerning the 30 April pay will follow. Civilian employees of the Department of Defense who are paid through DFAS and have their direct deposit of pay established with Navy Federal will also receive advanced pay for the April 15 payday."

4/8/2011 12:37:09 PM

Not to be a debbie downer about subs....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42492782/ns/world_news-europe/

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM. Reason : w]

4/8/2011 12:44:13 PM

Mid month pay stubs are out....yay 1/2 pay

4/8/2011 12:56:28 PM

I have been on vacation all this week. It looks like my vacation will maybe be a couple days longer.....

4/8/2011 2:05:21 PM

I wish Planned Parenthood would be left out of this ...I used to volunteer in the clinic for them and they did a lot of good for all kinds of folks, particularly low-income young men and women who were trying to get sexual health checks and contraception. When I didn't have health insurance for a spot, I was able to get birth control from them for $3/month. Seriously baller.

But right, we all know this.

Wish the military folks would get paid though..y'all don't make enough for the shit they throw at you.

4/8/2011 2:22:49 PM

If HR 1297 or HR 1363 does not pass today, shame on you congress, shame on you..

4/8/2011 3:01:28 PM

This deserves a repost. This is what republicans are willing to shut down your government over...
http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget/OMB_Watch-HR1_Policy_Riders.pdf

I thought last November was all about jobs, jobs, jobs! . . . .

4/8/2011 3:03:22 PM

there's a proposed bill (though i'm not sure where it stands) that would require the government to continue paying soldiers, even if the government shuts down.

4/8/2011 3:04:09 PM

^ thats HR 1297

4/8/2011 3:10:53 PM

my understanding is that ^ is sitting on Boehner's desk, waiting for a vote.

4/8/2011 3:20:48 PM

^^ oh okay, thanks

ps... boehner has had it on his desk since march 31st.

[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2011 3:21:15 PM

Boehner is a bitchass

4/8/2011 3:45:59 PM