someone who does?

THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE SCREWED!
http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/12000%20Civilian%20Personnel%20Services/12-500%20Civilian%20Personnel%20Position%20Classification,%20Pay%20and%20Allowances/12511.1.pdf

This just released directive is major code for the SECNAV to do "position classification" which means y'all about to be furloughed PERMANENTLY! Vote Obama 2012

4/12/2011 5:49:35 PM

I don't get it, this just refers to civilian positions?



[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 5:53 PM. Reason : was only able to glance at it for like 2 minutes]

4/12/2011 5:51:33 PM

How the fuck do you get "just released" out of something that came out months ago?

4/12/2011 6:02:11 PM

This seems like a FOX News trolling.

4/12/2011 6:04:39 PM

It's not even good trolling. A 90 seconds scanning of the directive pretty much tells anyone all they need to know, and it has not two shits to do with furloughing.

4/12/2011 6:06:22 PM

Chance [user]asshole[/user] it's been in draft for months and finally got signed - that's how

Secondly you're retarded and know nothing about how the welfare state runs with these DON agencies that waste space

4/12/2011 6:11:17 PM

this document does not mean you are getting furloughed

4/12/2011 6:12:20 PM

it would be silly to stop paying the folks with all the guns

4/12/2011 6:14:03 PM

Talk to me in a year when the OPM finishes classifying everyone as per what this instruction directs.

And the non-essentials after they finish are treated as non-essentials.

This is just the first indicator of many pink slips to come.

[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 6:15 PM. Reason : ]

4/12/2011 6:15:00 PM

I'm curious, what is it about the directive that is leading you to your conclusion? Because I read it and I think you don't have a damn clue what you are reading.

4/12/2011 6:17:45 PM

What are you lonely and want someone to argue with you? Get back to me when you actually know something. What is the instruction saying then?

4/12/2011 6:23:43 PM

I mean, they probably would have been screwed by McCain too.

4/12/2011 6:29:33 PM

I want you to tell me how correctly classifying positions = layoffs. I know what position classifying is and how it relates to positions in the government. You don't seem to know.

[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 6:30 PM. Reason : .]

4/12/2011 6:29:50 PM

Why don't you go take a business class and study the definition of corporate restructuring.

Why don't you get a master's in human resources and tell me that codifying positions isn't a significant step in the process before a merger or a downsizing.

No, I didn't scan in 1.5 million federal workers uniquely identifying pink slips and post them in a gallery, but this predecessor instruction is the harbinger of a grandscale downsizing at the senior DoD executive level in response to budget cutbacks. Once the Office of Personnel Management finishes labeling and classifying, they manipulate the manpower to the budgetary advantage, and the general trend in force restructuring has been for less people. For example, the USMC has a hiring freeze right now.

This new system of position classification tells of greater things to come.

I can't prove anything, but these are the behind-the-scenes directives and legal framework that facilitate downsizing. Notice the origin of the draft date of this instruction was in October, roughly the same time as the budgetary contingency plan was happening in Congress and plans were demanded by the Armed Service Cmte for the Secretaries of the Services to come up with cost-cutting plans for the start of the fiscal year.

You dumb fuck.

[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 6:37 PM. Reason : ]

4/12/2011 6:36:06 PM

is this weak trolling or genuine stupidity?

you be the judge.

4/12/2011 6:37:13 PM

if they died in battle like a good soldier this wouldn't be an issue

4/12/2011 6:37:49 PM

Who's the troll?

4/12/2011 6:38:03 PM

regardless of the nature of this announcement, half of you are misunderstanding it even more grossly. it isn't even about sailors or Marines; it is in reference to civilian employees who do work for the USN/USMC.

4/12/2011 6:43:04 PM

Quote :

"This new system of position classification tells of greater things to come."

No, this is nothing more than an analysis of what the command is paying versus what the command is getting. There may be a downsizing through attrition, but things would have to get uglier before outright layoffs were to happen.

Why are you so curious about this?

4/12/2011 6:53:03 PM

Demands for discovery concerning cost-benefit analysis are a polite way of letting you know people are about to get fired.

And If am wrong, then sue me.



But I am unduly flattered by your attention regarding this issue.

4/12/2011 6:58:42 PM

he works for NADEP or some shit, so obviously he's going to pay some attention.

4/12/2011 7:00:51 PM

Quote :

"regardless of the nature of this announcement, half of you are misunderstanding it even more grossly. it isn't even about sailors or Marines; it is in reference to civilian employees who do work for the USN/USMC."

um, read the first reply

and i, for one, am a fan of more efficient government. even if it led to layoffs (which i see no evidence yet of) i would be a fan of it if they were trimming redundant positions.

[Edited on April 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM. Reason : but i don't like big government, so who knows]

4/12/2011 7:07:18 PM

Quote :

"Demands for discovery concerning cost-benefit analysis are a polite way of letting you know people are about to get fired."

Except the military isn't a private company. Do you have any idea how the budgeting process works? How the military steadily grows in size over time? We may get a BRAC type of event at some point in the future, but this directive will be but a very very small slice of it if at all.

4/12/2011 7:21:31 PM

^^ I read it before I made my post.

4/12/2011 7:29:30 PM

Pink slips incoming

http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/04/15/the-navys-acquisitions-hiring-boom/

well, the exact opposite I guess.

4/15/2011 8:57:10 PM

Quote :

"regardless of the nature of this announcement, half of you are misunderstanding it even more grossly. it isn't even about sailors or Marines; it is in reference to civilian employees who do work for the USN/USMC."

Agreed. The only USN/USMC personnel this affects are the ones who are retired and have taken a job as a civilian who works for the USN/USMC. For example, my OSO's HRA.

[Edited on April 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM. Reason : I also think that stategrad is one of those people he complains about.]

4/15/2011 9:03:04 PM