why? do you enjoy debt?

6/7/2011 4:45:27 PM

i'm planning on doing this

and i'm planning on not being in debt.

you can be a mom and have a career

6/7/2011 4:46:15 PM

^

6/7/2011 4:47:17 PM

rawr rawr I'm gonna work and have kids rawr rawr

most girls that go to get their MRS degree don't really have to worry about being in debt regarding college tuition payments

6/7/2011 4:47:17 PM

hahaha....just b/c you are a mother doesn't mean you can't have a professional career

6/7/2011 4:47:39 PM

egyeyes doesn't have kids. I can tell.

6/7/2011 4:48:12 PM

i actually plan on working part time post graduation when i have kids.
for a little while at least.


thats the plan.
its subject to change.

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM. Reason : i rarely follow plans though lol ]

6/7/2011 4:49:31 PM

Quote :

"hahaha....just b/c you are a mother doesn't mean you can't have a professional career"

Agreed.

And to add to that, I know a lot of intelligent women working from home as moms making decent money. (A lot of freelance and contract work in accounting, editing, writing, paralegal, etc.)



[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2011 4:50:06 PM

Seems silly to me. Women in the office is enough of a stretch.

6/7/2011 4:51:15 PM

you guys severely underestimate what it takes to take care of a baby. It's a full time job.



A career is a full time job also.





Good luck.

Might as well sign up to Mary Kay or Adult Toy Parties now.

6/7/2011 4:53:00 PM

that post grad degree helped us land that man that gave us the babies duh.

6/7/2011 4:54:38 PM

i don't understand the question in the op.

is he implying that women with post-grad degrees should never have kids?

is he even talking about women who work, or women who get post-grad degrees and then stay at home?

either way, education is a good thing, ok? not to mention, there is a high correlation between parents' highest educational qualification and their children's. moreover, i believe the more educated you are (not necessarily formally), the better you can raise your children.

6/7/2011 4:54:40 PM

^^^ you severally underestimate the people on here who have already taken care of a baby

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 4:55 PM. Reason : ^]

6/7/2011 4:55:08 PM

^,^^

6/7/2011 4:55:58 PM

I severally overestimated your ability to opine on the issue.

6/7/2011 4:56:10 PM

That doesn't make sense. How can you "already taken care of a baby" without having a baby.


There is a big difference between taking care of someone else's baby and your own baby.

6/7/2011 4:56:56 PM

Quote :

"you guys severely underestimate what it takes to take care of a baby. It's a full time job. A career is a full time job also."

I totally agree with this.

If you have kids and then dump them on a maid/nanny/sitter, then you have [fail]ed as a parent.

Futhermore, it is one thing to be a teacher or a part-time worker, and another thing to be a power-mom (international business consultant, etc) who works 9 to 6, 6 days a week, and way lomger during certain critical periods of the year. Then you have really [fail]ed as a parent. (unless your husband is at home properly raising them)

6/7/2011 4:59:33 PM

my wife works around 80 hours a week. I probably work 40-50. We have a 3.5 year old. You can assume what you want, but no one who knows our daughter would ever claim that we failed as parents.

6/7/2011 5:04:52 PM

^This is a great example of it being perfectly possible

I know lots of power-moms with great kids.

6/7/2011 5:07:20 PM

Too bad Bobby D's a power bottom.

6/7/2011 5:08:34 PM

Yeah, helping raise your children and having a wife who makes a ton of money is just horrible.

6/7/2011 5:10:12 PM

Quote :

"If you have kids and then dump them on a maid/nanny/sitter, then you have [fail]ed as a parent. Futhermore, it is one thing to be a teacher or a part-time worker, and another thing to be a power-mom (international business consultant, etc) who works 9 to 6, 6 days a week, and way lomger during certain critical periods of the year. Then you have really [fail]ed as a parent. "

for what its worth i was a nanny baby and i think i turned out ok.
but i am a little biased


(my mom falls in the latter category)

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 5:12 PM. Reason : sdfdsf]

6/7/2011 5:10:35 PM

what gets me are all of the girls who go to college just to find a husband, yet they don't party but get A's. Then the girls that actually want a career binge drink during exams and get fucked up every weekend and manage with a C.

6/7/2011 5:11:30 PM

yeah those are the only two types.

6/7/2011 5:12:55 PM

I'm a lady-up-the-street-who-provides-unlicensed-daycare baby.

And I'm fucking awesome.

6/7/2011 5:13:55 PM

I didn't say it was the only two types, those are the two types that "get me" or in other words, seems to contradict of what they are trying to accomplish while in college.

6/7/2011 5:14:51 PM

lots of assumptions ITT

6/7/2011 5:16:24 PM

leave your baby with an alcoholic college student, yay!

6/7/2011 5:16:28 PM

Very few girls go to college with the goal of getting a husband these days. That was our parents generation. Now they go to party, study, fuck, suck, and if they play their cards right, maybe meet a guy who can put up with them for more than a few weeks.

6/7/2011 5:17:00 PM

Troll potential ITT

6/7/2011 5:18:39 PM

^^I'm still working on that.

Grad school here I come.

6/7/2011 5:21:47 PM

^ ^ ^ I like how suck got its own special mention

6/7/2011 5:24:09 PM

Quote :

"MRS degree"

I lol'ed HARD

6/7/2011 5:25:05 PM

Women don't always know when they're going to have kids... say college and a two-four year masters program puts you done with school at 24-26, if you don't get married at age 24, it's nice to be working up until you're far into the pregnancy.

6/7/2011 5:27:54 PM

^^ that joke is older than dirt.

most post-grad jobs offer better flexibility and time to be with your offspring.

6/7/2011 5:30:37 PM

That's part of it too^^. We don't plan to have a kid for another 4-5 years meaning my wife can have 6 years of good work, experience, and income under her belt before then. Once we have a kid she will probably take some time off for a few years to avoid early baby-sitting and so we have a lot of early education input etc. while doing freelance work. After the kid is old enough for school there is no reason she can't go back out and get a job.

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 5:32 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2011 5:32:44 PM

Dear ____ , you're the love of my life. And you've achieved a level of education beyond mine with your post-doc in ______ humanity. Will you and your quartermillion dollars of debt marry me? Also, I am looking forward to you telling me how fucking smart you are throughout the course of our marriage and introducing yourself as doctor ___ everywhere we go even though all you do is sit at home and raise kids.
Love,
Your future husband

6/7/2011 5:33:44 PM

^ Jealous of his future wife.

6/7/2011 5:36:48 PM

Quote :

"Futhermore, it is one thing to be a teacher or a part-time worker, and another thing to be a power-mom (international business consultant, etc) who works 9 to 6, 6 days a week, and way lomger during certain critical periods of the year. Then you have really [fail]ed as a parent. (unless your husband is at home properly raising them)"

My mom and dad worked well over 50 hours a week, and the same thing went on when I lived with my mom and stepdad. Sometimes she would push 80 hours a week. Yet we have a great relationship, I never look back and resent the times she worked so much, and I'm not a fuck up.


You can still have a demanding career and raise children properly. It's quality over quantity.

6/8/2011 1:48:25 AM

I plan on being a single mom before i am 30

I'm AstralAdvent and I approved this message.

6/8/2011 1:51:16 AM

Quote :

"^ Jealous of his future wife."

More like jealous of his future ex-wife. AMIRITE!?

6/8/2011 3:01:19 AM

Quote :

"you can be a mom and have a career"

You can be a mom, but not a good one.

6/8/2011 7:25:14 AM

You are all taking OP out of context and putting your own RAWR spin on it.

If a woman spends all the time, effort, and money to get all these advanced degrees and then gets pregnant and never goes back to work, then yes, it was all a huge waste.

OP is referring to those moms that never go back into the workforce.

6/8/2011 7:33:27 AM

He never said that... his post was vague. He said "to be moms" and being a mother and working are not mutually exclusive. I asked for clarification in my 1st post ITT, but didn't get a reply.

6/8/2011 7:41:04 AM

^^Actually, we're ignoring the OP because he was being silly.

There are all sorts of reasons why someone might get degrees that they don't use in the workforce. And it's not cause they enjoy debt.

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 7:45 AM. Reason : ]

6/8/2011 7:45:14 AM

my wife is planning on going back for her second graduate degree, a PhD or MPH, even knowing that we will likely have kids while she's in school, and young children when she starts a post-grad career

we've saved enough that we shouldn't need loans for her education, but we might go the loan route anyway if we can find a good rate and good terms

for the record, i'm sincerely hoping that her career (current one or whatever she does after she goes back and graduates) makes enough for me to stay-at-home dad...my education (though not my current job, unfortunately) lends itself to consulting work and i could, theoretically, make decent money part-time and stay at home with the kids

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 7:54 AM. Reason : theoretically != reality ]

6/8/2011 7:50:13 AM

i forgot about this thread

"stay at home" did not fit in the title. why do women get post-grad degrees to be stay at home moms?

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 8:38 AM. Reason : i mean i understand that women like spending money...]

6/8/2011 8:36:19 AM

I call bullshit on two people working consistent fifty hour weeks and having time for young children

6/8/2011 8:51:00 AM

My gf and i both have doctoral level degrees.


We've decided when we have children, one of us will stay home.


I have no qualms at all being a stay-at-home dad, and both of us will make enough to support the other in 3-5 years (when kids will become involved).

6/8/2011 8:54:48 AM

haha, I have an aunt who did this. Went for nursing and ended up popping out 5 kids right after college. Luckily my uncle makes $texas but it's going to be a bitch when they're all in college at the same time with only a year between most of them.

6/8/2011 8:54:50 AM