ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
http://mobile.salon.com/books/feature/2011/06/30/death_of_the_serial_oxford_comma/
GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE
Can't stop, won't stop 6/30/2011 2:23:34 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can't stop, won't stop" |
looks like you just did stop more like Can't stop, won't stop
NEVERMIND
thought this "oxford comma" was the comma w/ the ball on it]
6/30/2011 2:25:49 PM |
Skwinkle burritotomyface 19447 Posts user info edit post |
First sentence: iswsdt.
I do not use them. AP represent. 6/30/2011 2:25:57 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
lol at dweedle
I will use the oxford comma until the day I die. 6/30/2011 2:29:01 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
Skwinkle said:
Quote : | "First sentence: iswsdt." |
Except that's a perfectly fine use of a comma to separate independent clauses, which is not even slightly the same as the use of a comma to separate the final dependent clause in a chain of dependent clauses. Both of you GTFO of here.6/30/2011 2:29:30 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i will never stop using the oxford comma.
VIVA LA OC 6/30/2011 2:31:19 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i stopped using it a long time ago when some teacher 'corrected' it, i remember it ruining my day 6/30/2011 2:32:15 PM |
begonias warning: not serious 19578 Posts user info edit post |
this makes me sad 6/30/2011 2:32:56 PM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
Jeff, Travis and Mike are going to the party. What? No, Travis and Mike aren't gay; they just come as a pair now.
[Edited on June 30, 2011 at 2:33 PM. Reason : won't stop Ø] 6/30/2011 2:33:14 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
wtw? insanity! 6/30/2011 2:33:21 PM |
Skwinkle burritotomyface 19447 Posts user info edit post |
"saddened, shocked, and mightily displeased" are not independent clauses 6/30/2011 2:33:27 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma? 6/30/2011 2:33:41 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
oh i thought you were talking about "can't stop, won't stop"
ok you can stay but ncsuallday has to go 6/30/2011 2:33:54 PM |
Skwinkle burritotomyface 19447 Posts user info edit post |
I was not. (I am also an editor.) 6/30/2011 2:35:37 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
6/30/2011 2:36:30 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Skwinkle is not one whose grammar I'd challenge 6/30/2011 2:38:44 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I like omitting in the middle of the sentence
dweedle, jaybee, gunzz and ernie, guitarguy, and quagmire are my best friends on the internet 6/30/2011 2:41:13 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i HATE the oxford comma. this is pleasing. 6/30/2011 2:41:20 PM |
Skwinkle burritotomyface 19447 Posts user info edit post |
I have my flaws. Sometimes I don't capitalize trademarked items in informal communication.
Sometimes. 6/30/2011 2:41:41 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
After reading the article -
Wtf, I use those all the time 6/30/2011 2:41:56 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why, in a world where "M I RITE?" constitutes a legitimate conversational volley, would anyone care about an Oxford comma? It's precisely because grammar -- don't even get me started on spelling -- has become so expendable that it's conversely become so precious. A friend tells of a text she got prior to a first date with a new man that read, "I'm looking forward to seeing you, too." As she puts it, "A comma before the 'too'? Nobody does that anymore. I saw that and thought, 'I'm in luuuuuuuv.'"" |
well you can stick an exclamation point behind this...IM LEAVING!6/30/2011 2:45:12 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
OH IT'S GOING TO GET UGLY. 6/30/2011 2:48:46 PM |
Skwinkle burritotomyface 19447 Posts user info edit post |
I'm actually a little surprised so many people care. I guess commas are super serial. 6/30/2011 2:50:26 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
WTF I was never taught anything other than the Oxford Comma. 6/30/2011 2:51:08 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
This makes no sense at all. I don't like it, no I do not. That comma plays an important role in correct interpretation. 6/30/2011 2:52:07 PM |
GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Someone hacked the system. 6/30/2011 2:53:26 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Jeff, Travis and Mike are going to the party. What? No, Travis and Mike aren't gay; they just come as a pair now. " |
Not to mention this could be construed as someone telling Jeff that Travis and Mike are going to a party. 6/30/2011 6:45:22 PM |
stategrad100 All American 6606 Posts user info edit post |
can I get a w00t w00t for the tittles in da house!
i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i 6/30/2011 6:59:46 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
God damn it, so much. 6/30/2011 7:57:45 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
I will burn Oxford to the ground, sow its land with salt so that nothing can grow there again, and rape all of the survivors. 6/30/2011 8:10:31 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I do not use them. AP represent." |
6/30/2011 8:14:11 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?" |
6/30/2011 8:34:26 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I had hummus, baba ghannouj, and tzatziki for dinner tonight. TAKE THAT, OXFORD PR DEPARTMENT 6/30/2011 8:55:54 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This makes no sense at all. I don't like it, no I do not. That comma plays an important role in correct interpretation." | The Oxford PR department actually does still allow its use in disambiguation; however, if the meaning would still be clear without the final serial comma, it shall be omitted in its press releases.6/30/2011 9:44:46 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
I've always used the Oxford Comma...never knew it was called that. I'll probably continue to use it, too. 6/30/2011 9:54:39 PM |
Metricula Squishie Enthusiast 4040 Posts user info edit post |
NOOOOOOO 6/30/2011 10:08:10 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
This is bullshit. I always use the Oxford comma. 6/30/2011 10:24:37 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
What kind of bottom-feeding degenerate doesn't employ the Oxford comma? Its omission seems awkward more often than not, and regardless, it plays an important role in disambiguation. There's a difference between elimination of superfluous text and compromising clarity by omitting something useful. 7/1/2011 12:55:31 AM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i will never stop using the oxford comma." |
7/1/2011 9:23:57 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
People who can't follow capitalization rules crying about commas ITT
[Edited on July 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM. Reason : alliteration ITP] 7/1/2011 9:32:51 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i will never stop using the oxford comma." |
also, I used to surreptitiously correct marketing copy from clients that had neglected to use oxford commas
if you don't use oxford commas in your marketing copy, my respect for your company drops dramatically. it says to me "we don't take selling our product seriously enough to use proper grammar, so why should you buy it?"
[Edited on July 1, 2011 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .]7/1/2011 9:44:00 AM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck this. Serial commas for life! 7/1/2011 10:56:23 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
i did not realize this was such a contentious issue
i always thought non-oxford comma made sense, but somewhere along the line somebody told me that wasn't correct and you know me i just follow the rules so... 7/1/2011 10:58:31 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if you don't use oxford commas in your marketing copy, my respect for your company drops dramatically. it says to me "we don't take selling our product seriously enough to use proper grammar, so why should you buy it?"" |
haha I feel exactly the opposite. I ALWAYS edited it out. Though, thankfully, I never came across it very much. 7/1/2011 11:18:40 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Goodnight Sweet, Gentle, and Loving Prince
7/1/2011 11:38:52 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
well the thing about marketing people is that they generally think they fucking know everything
seriously the most annoying fucking people on the planet
don't try and tell me about some grammar when:
1. you don't fucking know shit about shit
and don't try to tell me how to "fix" a design when:
2. See #1. 7/1/2011 11:41:20 AM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I do not use them. AP represent." |
7/1/2011 11:42:05 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UPDATE: In response to the outrage, Oxford University reassured distraught grammar fans today that its comma drama had been greatly exaggerated. Maria Coyle of the university's press office stated that the edict to eschew the serial comma was only for press releases and internal communication, and furthermore "is not new, it's been online for several years already." The Oxford Dictionary's site has also added a new blog post Thursday, reasserting its tough, pro-comma stance. New Hart's Rules live. Long live Hart's Rules." |
7/11/2011 8:11:52 AM |
Time Veteran 595 Posts user info edit post |
I was always taught to leave that comma out. Interesting. Now if I could get a certain co-worker to refrain from using commas haphazardly in the middle of nearly every sentence I would sleep better. God that baffles me. 7/11/2011 10:01:09 AM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
why would they stop using this comma? is there a comma shortage causing them to ration their punctuation marks? i would gladly donate an extra comma or two if they really need it so that i can have more clarity in sentences with listed items. 7/11/2011 11:05:00 AM |