BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
If you are a fan of the classics, which cars do you think manufacturers should bring back?
I will start of with the BMW 2002
And my very own (not in the photo) 5 cylinder Audi GT Coupe
What is on your wish list of cars that you would like to see again?
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TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
7/16/2011 4:05:22 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And my very own (not in the photo) 5 cylinder Audi GT Coupe " |
Most probably will be... I definitely hope so, cause this concept below is one of the most aggressively gorgeous cars ever made:
Audi Quattro Concept
2.5 liter 5 cyl turbo 402 hp 354 lb-ft 2,866 lbs 6-sp manual 0-60 in 3.8 sec!
Hi-res: http://www.worldcarfans.com/110092928703/audi-quattro-concept-surprises-in-paris-video/highphotos
[Edited on July 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM. Reason : ]7/16/2011 5:16:05 PM |
stopdropnrol All American 3908 Posts user info edit post |
^borrows a lot of styling cues from the gtr 7/16/2011 5:39:04 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, from the back it kind of looks like the Quatro/GT coupe but everything else seems foreign. The GT has a DeLorean look to it. 7/16/2011 6:24:12 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
"Borrows" would only be true if the designers intentionally borrowed some styling from the GT-R, something we will never know.
Cars that should be remade:
Porsche 928... lot of talk going on about it, speculation is that it will be made in a couple of years, based on the Panamera chassis.
Lambo LM002 (4x4 offroader).
Corolla AE86.
BMW 8-Series.
Toyota Supra.
Mazda RX-7.
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4.
Acura NSX.
BMW Z8.
BMW M1.
Mazda 929.
Infiniti Q45.
Ferrari Enzo.
Lambo Espada/Jarama (front-engined Lambo). 7/16/2011 6:36:30 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Of all the BWMs that you suggest, and including the 2002, if you had to pick one of them then which one would it be?
[Edited on July 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM. Reason : df] 7/16/2011 6:47:03 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
fd3s rx7 323gtx 1st/2nd gen DSM, basically a 2 door smaller evo delorean 7/16/2011 7:12:22 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't the 1-series coupe basically a reincarnation of the 2002?
If yes, then: Z8
If no, then: Z8 or 2002, can't decide. And I have a hard time trying to figure out what the revival of the 2002 look like if not like the 1-series coupe. 7/16/2011 7:23:21 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
HYPE R 7/16/2011 8:52:30 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
That would be cool to see. They do still sell them remanufactured out of Houston, but a modern take on it would be nice.7/16/2011 9:11:23 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Isn't the 1-series coupe basically a reincarnation of the 2002?" |
That's what BMW says, but it's more of a 3-series, now that the 3-series is a 5-series. It's kind of a far cry from a modern-day 2002, in my opinion.7/17/2011 2:08:08 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
A redo on the ford thunderbird that isn't a cruising jag vert but the vette fighter it originated as
Def the supra
Celica all track
Sas topless fj-40
Little bronco
Vw Karmann ghia
Subaru svx
Mr-2 (not some mrs bull shit)
Ford falcon (bring us the Aussie cars)
Vw caddy (tdi?)
Chevelle
GTO
944
Svo mustang
And most of what's been mentioned allready 7/17/2011 8:22:38 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Yes to Celica, MR2, SVX.
Quote : | "That's what BMW says, but it's more of a 3-series, now that the 3-series is a 5-series. It's kind of a far cry from a modern-day 2002, in my opinion." |
While I agree with you, a "modern-day 2002" would either be pointless or a very expensive niche car.
Pointless: If they kept all the luxury and safety features but made it a bit smaller than the 1-series, it would provide marginal increases in performance, and would be roughly the same price.
Or: If they made it a bit smaller but much lighter by foregoing many of the luxury features and by employing exotic materials for weight reduction, it would be a killer car, but would end up being a very limited volume expensive car. And car makers are in general eschewing such offerings these days.7/17/2011 9:22:37 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Vw Karmann ghia
Subaru svx" |
DO WANT
And while we are at it, they need to Redo the Fox and make it look less like a Smart Car.
[Edited on July 17, 2011 at 11:06 AM. Reason : fd]7/17/2011 11:04:23 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Regarding the Karmann Ghia, I thought about the Thing...but I don't think air-cooled VWs would be on the table. I doubt an air-cooled engine could meet emission standards these days, and it certainly wouldn't meet the NVH levels that the average consumer would tolerate.
I mean, they could pull a New Beetle and build the Ghia or Thing on a Golf chassis, but do we really even want that? I think not. 7/17/2011 12:01:38 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
no love for the scrambler ITT? 7/17/2011 12:02:41 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
that's one that could legitimately be made pretty well and pretty easily. there are aftermarket conversions for TJ Wranglers, but Jeep could do it if they wanted to (although the JK Wrangler is kinda lame, I think.) 7/17/2011 12:46:34 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
Celica All-Trac would be cool 7/17/2011 1:58:33 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, if Subaru made a 2-door STi and called it the SVX, and Mitsubishi made a 2-door Evo and called it the Eclipse GSX, then Toyota could build a new Celica All-Trac and have it compete with them.
I'd still probably prefer the sedans or 5-doors unless the coupes were significantly lighter/faster/cheaper/better looking/some combination of the above. 7/17/2011 2:19:45 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
Ceica GT four - RC.
S13 240sx naturally 7/17/2011 4:05:17 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
IROC-Z 7/17/2011 7:49:42 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
God oep is a faggot 7/17/2011 8:47:14 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Porsche 356 Speedster and 1600 Super Coupe.
And fwiw, I thought the Audi Quattro Concept OEP posted looked like the LFA for a minute. lol.
[Edited on July 17, 2011 at 10:32 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2011 10:29:50 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
no love for the iroc? wtf 7/17/2011 10:46:49 PM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
all of the above, except for the IROC
bring back the Cherokee and the Comanche 7/17/2011 11:29:33 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
you son of a bitch 7/17/2011 11:33:10 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Your face goddamnit. 7/18/2011 12:38:19 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
The scrambler is essentially being re-made as a 4 door wrangler, and they're selling a factory kit to make them into a truck.
The 240 wasn't a great "new car" where it hit it's stride was being a cheap ass used RWD car with a good balance and no HP but plenty of possibilities.
the duke,
i was actually looking for a flat 6 turbo... subie needs to make a 6 pot turbo so i can engine swap the bitch (all subie wireing harnesses are damned near the same) and then next WRX/STI will be a lot smaller, shooting for the the size of the other WRC cars (fiesta MINI etc.) 7/18/2011 8:22:51 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The scrambler is essentially being re-made as a 4 door wrangler, and they're selling a factory kit to make them into a truck" |
is it a factory kit? I've seen aftermarket stuff and the egyptian military version . . . . .
Quote : | "and then next WRX/STI will be a lot smaller, shooting for the the size of the other WRC cars (fiesta MINI etc.) " |
Bring Back the Justy!!!
7/18/2011 8:31:18 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
For fear of seeming like OEP...
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/jeep-announces-new-wrangler-unlimited-pickup-in-kit-form-w-v/
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/15/subaru-to-split-wrx-from-rest-of-impreza-line-make-it-smaller/ 7/18/2011 9:11:23 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
$5,000+ so that you can chop up your new wrangler for a 4 foot bed kinda seems not worth it, what a let down.
wrx seems cool though 7/18/2011 9:59:24 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The scrambler is essentially being re-made as a 4 door wrangler, and they're selling a factory kit to make them into a truck." |
This is what I was thinking too.7/18/2011 10:11:27 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
THere's no need to remake the BMW Z8. Why remake a crappy car? Not like it has any historical significance so if BMW wants to come out with another 2 door sports car just start from scratch. 7/18/2011 10:32:21 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
That new audi Quattro concept looks legit, and awesome. I wonder how much that thing will cost. Maybe I can make it my "finally made the big time" car. 7/18/2011 10:37:46 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^it's going to be over $100k and probably compete against the 911. Also it's supposed a successor to the Quattro Sport, which is significantly different from your GT Coupe and was one of the most expensive cars of it's day 7/18/2011 1:18:45 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRPU_mfhYGA
so.. why does VAG keep competing with itself? (since Porsche pretty much owns them or has that changed again?)
the r8,911,& now the quattro all in thier own weird class of supercars.
it seems like its going to be similar to what the gtr should have been. if it doesn't suck (in some giant achilles heel kind of way) and comes with a rowable transmission this may be a better car to get then the gtr.
That and i'm sure the inline 5 will be a cinch to strap on a bigger turbo (as long as you weren't planning on twin scroll)] 7/18/2011 2:18:02 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "which is significantly different from your GT Coupe and was one of the most expensive cars of it's day" |
Other than it being AWD, i don't recall that it was that much different. Both cars looked exactly the same except one had Quattro on the back, and the GT still has all the bells and whistles of the time period underneath the hood that the Quattro did.
Are you referring to the rally cars?7/18/2011 3:05:04 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
second on the Cherokee and add pre-1978 Bronco. 7/18/2011 4:08:13 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Nevermind, I see that you said the Audi Quattro Sport. 7/18/2011 4:50:37 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^^Nah I'm talking about the street cars. It was different than the regular coupe in that it was 13 inches shorter, used lightweight materials, had a 300 hp engine, hit 60 in less than 5 seconds, had an advanced ABS system and they only made 224 of them for homologation purposes. The car cost $75,000 in 1984 money, making it one of the most expensive cars of the day. Even today they fetch over $100k each
ah, hehehe
[Edited on July 18, 2011 at 4:56 PM. Reason : sorry about any naming confusion] 7/18/2011 4:53:24 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
BMW 3.0CSL - the batmobile Mercedes W123 diesels Honda CRX Datsun 510, 240z Opel Manta E30 and E36 M3 E34 and E39 M5 GTI mark I supra evo 9 Ford Taurus SHO (not resembling new one of course) 1-3rd generation maxima miura 512TR ...too many to list. it is pointless.
[Edited on July 19, 2011 at 3:13 AM. Reason : f] 7/19/2011 3:10:46 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
I do not want to see any of these cars remade. Is nothing sacred to you people? 7/19/2011 9:50:01 AM |
Air Half American 772 Posts user info edit post |
7/19/2011 9:51:09 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Acura Integra GS-R
7/19/2011 10:04:13 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
shelby cobra 7/19/2011 12:45:01 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^ Don't they already have those remade?
Quote : | "I do not want to see any of these cars remade. Is nothing sacred to you people?" |
Some of them were just so awesome that it would be nice to see a blast from the past.7/19/2011 1:29:58 PM |
EmptyFriend All American 3686 Posts user info edit post |
+1 for the VW Karmann Ghia 7/19/2011 1:44:15 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
VW Beetle
And not some FWD bullshit 7/19/2011 1:46:32 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
How is the upkeep on the old beetles that are still around? Are those a pain because I would love to have one someday. 7/19/2011 7:15:24 PM |