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""Even if some people say, well the Republicans should have done this or they should have done that, they will hold the president responsible," said Lamborn said Friday during an interview on a Denver radio station. "Now I don't want to even have to be associated with him. It's like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can't get away.""

I guess people calling this racist have never read Brier Rabbit.

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 1:15 PM. Reason : s]

8/2/2011 1:14:50 PM

Do black people even like Obama anymore? Wasn't the black middle class demolished while he was in office?

8/2/2011 1:18:18 PM

I don't think it's racist, but I think it was a poor choice of words.

8/2/2011 1:22:31 PM

kinda funny that the uncle remus stories are black folktales

8/2/2011 1:22:40 PM

^ Exactly. That's the argument I'm having with a friend of mine right now. Her response: "Yeah but in the black community, it's racist."

8/2/2011 1:25:16 PM

i'd bet the term wasn't even in their vocabulary until now

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 1:27 PM. Reason : don't mention anything that's black, y'all]

8/2/2011 1:27:07 PM

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"I guess people calling this racist have never read Brier Rabbit."

It's because Disney won't re-release Song of the South. I guess they hope the movie will be forgotten about in a few more generations.

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 1:30 PM. Reason : -]

8/2/2011 1:29:17 PM

omg such racist

8/2/2011 1:30:09 PM

I guess he should have been more niggardly with his cultural references.

8/2/2011 1:30:21 PM

hes just callin a spade a spade

8/2/2011 1:32:03 PM

where i grew up that term is defamatory and still frequently used

this is in johnston county tho

8/2/2011 1:39:14 PM

no wayy

8/2/2011 1:40:41 PM

^^i grew up on the harnett/johnson county line (right on the edge of dunn and benson) and i don't think i've ever heard of this term.

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM. Reason : :shrug:]

8/2/2011 1:41:11 PM

i think most everyone has heard this term used in derogatory context

8/2/2011 1:47:24 PM

Better a tar baby than a tar heel

8/2/2011 1:48:39 PM

ibtblackjesus

8/2/2011 1:48:54 PM

i honestly do not think i have ever heard it before.
it doesnt really matter but just thought i'd share that not everyone knows the term

Quote :

"Better a tar baby than a tar heel"

honestly when i read the thread title.....i thought that it was gonna talk about how some mistook him for a north carolina native


[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 1:54 PM. Reason : lkhjkji]

8/2/2011 1:49:26 PM

Cherry Grove, SC

8/2/2011 1:53:12 PM

i've never heard it used in a derogatory manner. just to refer to a problem that keeps getting worse the more you fuck with it.

8/2/2011 1:53:31 PM

^^ I have a picture under that sign.

Like I said, I don't think the congressman meant it to be racist, and I don't think he's racist for using it, but it's definitely been used pejoratively in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby#Term

Quote :

"Although the term's provenance arose in African folklore (e.g., the gum doll Anansi created to trap Mmoatia, the dwarf), some Americans now consider "tar baby" to have negative connotations revolving around negative images of African-Americans.[2] The Oxford English Dictionary (but not the print version of its American counterpart) lists "tar baby" as a derogatory term for a black or a Maori.[3"

Although, it goes on to mention that several politicians and such have used it in metaphorical manner.

8/2/2011 1:55:56 PM

snow men offend me

don't you even mention them

8/2/2011 1:58:30 PM

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"some Americans now are retarded and consider "tar baby" to have negative connotations revolving around negative images of African-Americans."

It's like that guy that went on a rant about black holes

8/2/2011 2:00:24 PM

id agree, no way he meant it in that context

8/2/2011 2:00:32 PM

I don't think he meant it in a racist context but I've definitely heard it used that way. I live around a bunch of damn bigots. In fact, I cringed when I read the title.

8/2/2011 2:00:46 PM

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"The Oxford English Dictionary (but not the print version of its American counterpart) says that tar baby is a derogatory term used for "a black or a Maori." "

8/2/2011 2:00:50 PM

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""

I like that they have a 60 item buffet and a new lite menu I'm going to have to seek this place out next time I visit my grandparents.

8/2/2011 2:03:19 PM

That burger on the picture looks so good.

8/2/2011 2:07:03 PM

Isn't that place near a Guido's Getaway?

Like, both of those restaurants are within walking distance of one another.




ooohhh South Carolina....

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2011 2:08:51 PM

N*GGA STOLE MY BIKE!

8/2/2011 2:20:47 PM

If someone can point out where another congressman used the term "tar baby" in reference to a non-black public figure in the last 20 years, then I will consider this not racist.

8/2/2011 2:22:28 PM

Tony Snow talking about the phone tapping scandal during the Bush administration.

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" Look at the poll that appeared the following day. While there was -- part of it said 51 percent of the American people opposed, if you look at when people said, if there is a roster of phone numbers, do you feel comfortable that -- I'm paraphrasing and I apologize -- but something like 64 percent of the polling was not troubled by it. Having said that, I don't want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program -- the alleged program -- the existence of which I can neither confirm nor deny."

8/2/2011 2:27:23 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/31/politics/main1851199.shtml

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"In a speech Saturday, Romney, a Republican considering a run for president in 2008, acknowledged he took a big political risk in taking control of the project after a fatal tunnel ceiling collapse, but said inaction would have been even worse. "The best thing politically would be to stay as far away from that tar baby as I can," he told a crowd of about 100 supporters in Ames, Iowa."

8/2/2011 2:28:22 PM

LOL

8/2/2011 2:29:01 PM

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"Senator John F. Kerry remembers well the advice he got a year ago when he was considering whether to lead a new investigation into the fate of prisoners of war and other Americans who never came home from Vietnam. "Everybody on my staff, everybody I knew thought I was crazy, and said, 'Don't do this,' " he recalls. "They said it's a no-win tar baby.""

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/10/us/washington-at-work-the-senator-pursues-untold-mia-story.html?ref=johnkerry

8/2/2011 2:29:56 PM

8/2/2011 2:30:43 PM

and again and again and again

8/2/2011 2:33:03 PM

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"Seabrook city councilwoman Dee Wright asked Mayor Pro-Tem John Buhman to resign Tuesday after he used the term "tar baby" during the August city council meeting. Buhman said he used the term to describe a piece of property that would be difficult to develop. He read several definitions of the term, saying it was used to describe a tricky situation and was not used as a racial slur."

http://www.click2houston.com/news/5059431/detail.html

8/2/2011 2:33:51 PM

More white on black crime ITT

8/2/2011 2:34:29 PM

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"On that side of the House, the Liberals have the man who fathered the carbon tax, put it up for adoption to his predecessor and now wants a paternity test to prove the tar baby was never his in the first place. He attacks the deficit that he voted for, but wants billions more for a 45-day work year."

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3936180&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=40&Ses=2#Int-2794112

8/2/2011 2:34:54 PM

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"Answering questions at a town hall meeting, the Arizona senator was discussing federal involvement in custody cases when he said, "For me to stand here and ... say I'm going to declare divorces invalid because of someone who feels they weren't treated fairly in court, we are getting into a tar baby of enormous proportions and I don't know how you get out of that.""

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17654013/ns/politics-decision_08/t/mccain-uses-term-tar-baby/

8/2/2011 2:35:27 PM

it would be racist if Obama was referred to as a half-tar half-elmer's glue baby that wasn't made in America.

8/2/2011 2:37:16 PM

ok so what is the working definition of tar baby?

8/2/2011 2:38:19 PM

Quote :

"A handful of lawmakers are questioning the decision to spend up to $30 billion in government funds to rescue mega-insurer American International Group, with Sen. Bob Corker saying the money still may not be enough to keep the struggling company afloat. “It’s a tar baby,” said Corker (R-Tenn.), a senior member of the Banking Committee. “It’s not going to go away.”"

http://politics.infodox.net/article/8670-senator-aig-bailout-a-tar-baby.html

8/2/2011 2:40:56 PM

huh, guess it's not racist.

Maybe I was racist in thinking that the guy was racist.

8/2/2011 2:44:26 PM

Bad choice of words, given that the pres is black. But not racist.

8/2/2011 2:51:36 PM

He's not black. He's mulatto.


If you mix vodka with orange juice do you still call it orange juice? Do you still call it vodka? No. It's a screwdriver.

Obama is just as white as he is black. Calling him one or the other is incorrect. He's mulatto... and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

8/2/2011 3:04:36 PM

^^so... using a non-racial slur isn't ok when the president is black? is that what you are saying?

^some people consider mulatto a racial slur

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2011 3:05:15 PM

^^I know what he is. Everyone does, as he's been under a microscope for years now. And everyone calls him black, so STFU.

^I'm saying that nobody would have cared if it was Bush instead of Obama. Nobody seemed to care about those images the circulated of W being compared to a monkey. If someone tried that shit now it'd be quite the uproar.

8/2/2011 3:08:14 PM

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"If someone can point out where another congressman used the term "tar baby" in reference to a non-black public figure in the last 20 years, then I will consider this not racist."

PWNT. that was a hilarious set of quotes.

Quote :

"http://files.sharenator.com/Fffuuu_The_Game-s395x317-59013-535.jpg"

but, that's what our hyper-sensitive, race-card throwing society has created for us. congrats, mrfrog

8/2/2011 3:09:27 PM

Quote :

"He's not black. He's mulatto. If you mix vodka with orange juice do you still call it orange juice? Do you still call it vodka? No. It's a screwdriver. Obama is just as white as he is black. Calling him one or the other is incorrect. He's mulatto... and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that."

8/2/2011 3:10:16 PM