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10/4/2011 1:06:01 PM

things i am tired of for $400, alex

10/4/2011 1:11:52 PM

Doesn't really matter. Religion doesn't make good sense for either side.

10/4/2011 1:12:21 PM

what are "people"

10/4/2011 1:12:26 PM

10/4/2011 1:18:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjO4duhMRZk

10/4/2011 1:19:17 PM

Calling Jesus left or right is pretty futile. However, in today's American political environment, Catholic Social Teaching comes off as being anything but right wing (except if you care only about gays and abortions).

But yeah, tired of people expropriating Jesus for political self-righteousness.

10/4/2011 1:29:47 PM

ha, my aunt put a magnet of that first jesus pic in my stocking one year for christmas

10/4/2011 1:36:43 PM

Seeing as how Jesus is an imaginary figure who most likely did not exist in history, its retarded for both sides to use him as their poster child.

God too for that matter

10/4/2011 1:58:19 PM

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"Jesus is an imaginary figure who most likely did not exist in history"

hahaha how do you figure that?

10/4/2011 2:03:51 PM

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"Although a few scholars have questioned the existence of Jesus as an actual historical figure,[46] most scholars involved with historical Jesus research believe his existence can be established using documentary and other evidence."

says wikipedia

:shrug:

10/4/2011 2:04:39 PM

^7 looks like he's an nc state fan!

10/4/2011 2:09:27 PM

Yeah, the crazy guy who wrote the initial book claiming Jesus was not a historical figure recanted his position.

10/4/2011 2:09:51 PM

Side Hug

10/4/2011 2:14:40 PM

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""Although a few scholars have questioned the existence of Jesus as an actual historical figure,[46] most scholars involved with historical Jesus research believe his existence can be established using documentary and other evidence.""

Shocker. Most scholars involved with historical Jesus research are Christians and suffering from the biggest case of confirmation bias in the history of the world.

Contemporary sources verifying his existence do not exist. Non-Christian sources verifying his existence only ever refer to what the Christians decades later are saying about him or were edited by Christian scholars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

I'd say it's nowhere near proven that he existed, and it's definitely not proven that he did anything miraculous. Extradorinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Not even the Gospels are eye-witness accounts and even if they were eye-witness accounts are the least reliable forms of evidence.

10/5/2011 1:17:50 AM

And so begins the descent into the hell that is Soap Box flowing over into Chit Chat.

10/5/2011 1:27:27 AM

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"Most scholars involved with historical Jesus research are Christians and suffering from the biggest case of confirmation bias in the history of the world. "

As if those who are seeking to dispel the existence of Jesus aren't suffering from a little confirmation bias of their own?

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"And so begins the descent into the hell that is Soap Box flowing over into Chit Chat."

Yep. Here's where I check out.

10/5/2011 1:54:22 AM

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"As if those who are seeking to dispel the existence of Jesus aren't suffering from a little confirmation bias of their own?"

As if everybody attempting to determine whether Jesus of Nazareth existed as a historical figure is sure of the final answer?

As if "you're either with us or against us"?

10/5/2011 1:56:54 AM

Dramatic oversimplification of historical perspectives ITT.

10/5/2011 2:02:27 AM

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"As if those who are seeking to dispel the existence of Jesus aren't suffering from a little confirmation bias of their own?"

What lewisje said. Unbiasedly looking at the actual evidence doesn't support the notion. Atheists don't need Christ to have not existed. Whether he actually existed says absolutely nothing about whether divine claims are justifiably believable. Christians need for him to have existed. It's that simple really.

Oh, is this where I make a declaration and then say that I'm leaving so don't bother responding? lol

[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 2:10 AM. Reason : .]

10/5/2011 2:09:36 AM

^I mean to be fair you're just refuting a blanket assumption similar to the one you laid down earlier in the thread (that all historians looking for evidence of Jesus are biased), i.e. see "dramatic oversimplificiation of historical perspectives".

10/5/2011 2:29:20 AM

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lololol

10/5/2011 1:57:12 PM

ha, I think these graphics/cartoons actually have good points.


The evangelicals have been getting more and more militant. It's just a matter of time before they're the christian taliban.

10/5/2011 2:31:44 PM

hey stu, male circumcision is medically beneficial.

regardless of your hatred for religion LOL.

10/5/2011 2:47:34 PM

^^ good one jim jones.

10/5/2011 2:58:33 PM

that doesn't even make sense.

10/5/2011 3:02:51 PM

it doesn't make sense to me therefore it doesn't make sense to the entire universe.

far out bro.

10/5/2011 3:15:20 PM

Dude, you have no Quran!

10/5/2011 3:16:37 PM

No... It just doesn't make sense. Do you know Jim jones was?

10/5/2011 8:46:18 PM

Don't drink the Kool-aid, man

10/5/2011 8:48:08 PM

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"Do you know Jim jones was?"

ha pretty obvious neither of you 2 do.

again, another "it doesn't make sense to my brain therefore it does not make sense and furthermore cannot make sense to others"


[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 8:51 PM. Reason : ,]

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10/5/2011 8:56:57 PM

JimJonesDigital:

10/5/2011 8:57:20 PM

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"hey stu, male circumcision is medically beneficial."

I know you're trolling me with unproven bullshit.

10/5/2011 11:32:05 PM

Lol

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