ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Bullied 10-year-old girl commits suicide Nov 16, 2011 5:57 p.m.
Columbus County authorities are investigating the death of a 10-year-old girl who hanged herself Monday night after repeatedly being bullied at school. 11/16/2011 7:11:32 PM
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DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10390079/ 11/16/2011 7:12:41 PM
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Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
I just read the same article. What a sweet looking little girl too. Isn't 10 a little too early for the extreme bullying or thoughts of suicide? This is just so sad. 11/16/2011 7:13:06 PM
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GoldenGirl All American 6475 Posts user info edit post |
Do teachers not realize this going on?
11/16/2011 7:18:51 PM
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ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
this is extremely sad.
Quote : | "Do teachers parents not realize this going on?" | and why does she have facebook? She's 10 years old.
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 7:28 PM. Reason : a] 11/16/2011 7:26:41 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
i would take a serious look at the parent in this case. what 10 year old considers suicide???? 11/16/2011 7:28:53 PM
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0EPII1 All American 42569 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, that's terrible. How can you even hang yourself at that age? And I can't even imagine the extent of the cruelty that would drive a 10 year old to hang herself.
Children are horrible. 90% of bullies are made due to bad/neglectful/abusive parenting. I really wish there was some test to pass before people were allowed to make children. Anyway, I am speaking to the air here, as TWW is full of horrible bullies who derive pleasure from mocking others in with extremely hurtful words... if they mock others at this age, chances are very high they were also bullies in school.
BTW, this doesn't compute:
Quote : | "Jasmine was picked on at Chadbourne Elementary School, West said, noting other children teased her about her clothes or her shoes. She left the school for a while and dreaded having to return about a month ago, her mother said.
"It's a shame that kids are that cruel. It really is," West said, noting that she never knew how badly Jasmine had been tormented." |
If she didn't know the extent of the torment, why did she allow her 10 year old to leave school "for a while"? 11/16/2011 7:33:35 PM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i would take a serious look at the parent in this case. what 10 year old considers suicide???? " |
When I was about that age a girl in my school attempted suicide. It happens. 11/16/2011 8:10:12 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
i dont understand how many times this has to happen before bullies are made afraid of being bullies.
instant expulsion should do the trick.
...and a 10 year old is plenty old enough to form the thought "death is a release."
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 9:02 PM. Reason : -] 11/16/2011 9:01:28 PM
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BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What a sweet looking little girl too" |
 11/16/2011 9:03:11 PM
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ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
when i was 10 the only thing i had to worry about was making sure i took the time to get up and poop while playing with my legos
that was the good ole days 11/16/2011 9:11:58 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
so you developed slowly is what youre saying? 11/16/2011 9:15:14 PM
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State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do teachers not realize this going on?" |
Yes, they know it's going on, and no, they don't care.
No one ever talks about the torment that the Columbine shooters endured, but I bet the survivors didn't harass anyone else during their time in high school.
School administrators have the ability to put an end to bullying. 11/16/2011 9:18:12 PM
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rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
imagine if this girl had grown up and her co-workers were mean to her. she would have probably gone crazy and shot up her workplace and then killed herself anyway. these bullies saved lives and should be commended. 11/16/2011 9:24:21 PM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Obvious troll is obvious. 11/16/2011 9:32:07 PM
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mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""I just lost it because she took her last breath in my arms," West said Wednesday. "She was a loving child. I just don't understand."" |
dang 11/16/2011 9:35:48 PM
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ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ I guess? My parents actually cared for me and knew what I was doing. What should I have been doing? If Facebook would have been around I guarantee I wouldn't have been on it.
Slow development or not... I now contribute positively to society and I give my parents a lot of credit for that.
IBERNIECALLSMERACIST
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ^] 11/16/2011 9:35:49 PM
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qntmfred retired 41010 Posts user info edit post |
in most cases i'd be willing to bet, bullying like this consists not of one individual constantly and savagely harassing another individual, but more likely the subtle and even not so subtle (but not quite to the level of requiring discipline from a teacher, let alone expulsion) remarks and treatment by many dozens of her peers. 11/16/2011 9:39:48 PM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^ This. And the children will often not tell their parents about the extent of the bullying, if they tell them at all. 11/16/2011 9:42:42 PM
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ashley_grl All American 4051 Posts user info edit post |
I live (and teach) in Columbus County and this news has hit the community hard.
I know that article is claiming multiple accusations of bullying but word around here is also pointing towards possible abuse at home.
And as far as the comments about teachers ignoring bullying then I would say that is completely false. We have all be informed of our personal and professional liability when it comes to bullying. It is an EXTREMELY serious issue at the school I work for. I know teachers who have even set up their laptop cameras to record students and possible instances of bullying.
The problem is that so much of the bullying happens outside of a direct classroom in places like the lunchroom, playground/gym, group work, hallways, bathrooms, buses, etc. Although teachers are there and watching it is impossible to see and hear it all. The sad thing is that kids cannot escape the bullying anymore. There is no safe haven at home because their peers follow them there through facebook and texting. I cannot begin to count the times drama and general bullying has been an issue through facebook at my school. 11/16/2011 9:49:09 PM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
She hung herself with a belt? How? 11/16/2011 10:27:08 PM
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BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
"bullying" has become a buzz word 11/16/2011 10:27:59 PM
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A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10996 Posts user info edit post |
^
but for the girl 11/16/2011 10:37:42 PM
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bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think I could have even talked to news if I was her mother, unless they just wanted to film me crying hysterically. RIP Jasmine. I hope she finally found her peace.  11/16/2011 10:44:34 PM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "She hung herself with a belt? How?" |
end through the buckle to create the noose, tie the end off on the top bunk/clothing rack/ceiling fan. head through the noose, step off the chair, kick it away...
gruesome, but entirely possible.
poor kid. 11/16/2011 10:46:04 PM
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spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And as far as the comments about teachers ignoring bullying then I would say that is completely false. We have all be informed of our personal and professional liability when it comes to bullying. It is an EXTREMELY serious issue at the school I work for." |
Maybe things have changed, but I can guarantee you when I was in school (Asheville City and Buncombe County) there were teachers who actively looked the other way on bullying. 11/16/2011 10:50:46 PM
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joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |

11/16/2011 11:20:07 PM
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BigFletch All American 3302 Posts user info edit post |
Wtf man. This disgusts me  11/16/2011 11:21:45 PM
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PKSebben All American 1386 Posts user info edit post |
It took the threat of a lawsuit by my parents for my school to step up against bullying. 11/16/2011 11:23:17 PM
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dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there were teachers who actively looked the other way on bullying." |
teachers intervening in kids' personal lives have gotten fired. 11/16/2011 11:25:36 PM
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WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think I could have even talked to news if I was her mother, unless they just wanted to film me crying hysterically. RIP Jasmine. I hope she finally found her peace." |
Exactly! Me too. Crazy thing is, in the video on that link, her mother wasn't even crying and didn't seem too upset or sad AT ALL actually. Hmmm.....maybe I'm wrong, but I would be investigating her. Plus, how did she not know this was going on?!?!?! COMMUNICATION failure, obviously. So sad.  11/16/2011 11:40:07 PM
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sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
people react to grief in different ways. i doubt i'd be crying on tv even if some really terrible shit happened to me. 11/16/2011 11:50:00 PM
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crpelliz All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
^^she might be in total shock. it is strange, yes, but ^ is right 11/16/2011 11:54:12 PM
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jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
it's teacher's not parents fault, I wasn't one of the most bullied kids but from my experience the majority of it could be stopped if teachers didn't turn a blind eye, as for parents the kid can totally mask their feeling and only need a few minutes alone to kill themselves 11/17/2011 12:01:19 AM
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0EPII1 All American 42569 Posts user info edit post |
^ there are 2 sets of parents involved. it is the parents' fault. the teachers are a bandage. upbringing is done at home.
as i said earlier
90% of bullies are made due to bad/neglectful/abusive parenting. I really wish there was some test to pass before people were allowed to make children. 11/17/2011 12:11:23 AM
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red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
This is such a sad story, I despise people 11/17/2011 12:13:57 AM
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jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
^^you don't really think some moral lecture or speech from the bullies' parents is really going to effect what they do at school? the kid will just bs some answer and keep doing it
you've got to be 20-30 yrs away from being a kid to be that out of touch
the teachers can't stop it all but they are the only ones who are in position to stop some of it at least 11/17/2011 1:49:37 AM
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Big4Country All American 11921 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do teachers not realize this going on?" |
I had some pretty stupid teachers through the years. Kids used to pick on each other and yell at each other in math class in 6th grade and the teacher didn't even notice. She was really strange. We also had a substitute teacher that worked at my middle school who would fall asleep in class while we were doing our school work. 11/17/2011 2:05:33 AM
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GoldenGirl All American 6475 Posts user info edit post |
I don't get why teachers would turn a blind eye
only reason that I can think of is teachers are afraid to discipline kids b/c of the backlash from parents. (where was that thread on parent's versus teachers)
poor parenting + teachers who turn the other way = horrible outcomes. 11/17/2011 2:06:41 AM
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parsonsb All American 13206 Posts user info edit post |
Do you people not remember what it was like to be a child, snitches get stitches was ingrained in to my peers and I by a very young age. You just didn't tell the teacher that things were happening. I mean how many of you got away with shit because no one caught you doing it.
And honestly no parent wants to believe that their child might be a monster on the playground. That and the general everyone gets in trouble when there is a fight tends to lead to the kids that get picked on not getting taken as seriously when they do come forward while being afraid to stand up for themselves because of how a bunch of in school suspensions would look.
tl;dr version The flaw in the system is that there is no good choice when being bullied. Fight back, get in trouble; tell someone, get shunned by peers; do nothing and it has the chance of escalating anyway. 11/17/2011 2:34:36 AM
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PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
This is a tragedy as all suicide is. My heart goes out to her family and I hate to hear that this girl felt the need to resort to this.
If this were one of our own people would be all LOL and pwnt.
Just for future reference, at what age are we supposed to disregard compassion for our fellow man on here again? 11/17/2011 2:40:39 AM
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begonias warning: not serious 19581 Posts user info edit post |
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11/17/2011 3:52:31 AM
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BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly no evidence of bullying has been found so far by the school or the police:
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/11/17/1137815?sac=Local
I'm working really hard not to lay some serious blame on the mother here. 11/17/2011 7:00:55 AM
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Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
lot of people jumping to conclusions ITT 11/17/2011 7:04:21 AM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
OMFG IT IS THE TEACHER'S FAULT
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McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""bullying" has become a buzz word" |
should make a good addition to your "vocabulary" then 11/17/2011 7:51:29 AM
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afripino All American 11462 Posts user info edit post |
because what other kids in elementary school think about you is the MOST IMPORTANT thing in life!!!
it's sad that it was a kid, but being made fun of for your clothes or shoes is some first world problem bullshit. i'm thinking she just wanted to be popular and couldn't figure out the angle so she gave up. 11/17/2011 8:13:04 AM
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Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
I'm willing to bet everyone ITT has been hounded at one point in time or another for their choice in dress, style, personal look, etc.
yet you're all still here
Isn't part of the education you pick up in school learning how to deal with a wide spectrum of social situations? People will pick at you and make fun of you for stupid shit your whole life. Learning how to deal with it is part of growing up. 11/17/2011 8:25:31 AM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "people react to grief in different ways. i doubt i'd be crying on tv even if some really terrible shit happened to me. " |
Exactly. When my grandfather was killed I don't think I cried at all. Was just really numb to the situation. If anyone had interviewed me during that time maybe they would have thought I was the killer
Quote : | "only reason that I can think of is teachers are afraid to discipline kids b/c of the backlash from parents. (where was that thread on parent's versus teachers) " |
This can be part of it. I had a student in one of my classes that was a raging, violent douchebag. But nobody at the school wanted to do anything about him because it was well-known in the town that his father was an even bigger raging, violent douchebag. When the kid did finally get ISS the father threatened to burn the school down  11/17/2011 8:39:29 AM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Little bit of a difference between your 10 year old daugter committing suicide in your own home and a grandparent dying of more natural causes. 11/17/2011 8:43:14 AM
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