I HOPE PRYDERI DIES IN A FUCKING HOUSE FIRE

11/22/2011 9:23:36 PM

11/22/2011 9:27:21 PM

this thread didn't turn out how i expected went about where i expected it to.

11/22/2011 9:31:13 PM

you people are in denial

if you don't think the next 10+ years are going to be vastly different than the 80's you grew up in, you are wrong.

we've been had. we allowed it to happen.

now we have to trudge through the aftermath.

shit is going to go down, as usual

have fun. hope you are right

[Edited on November 22, 2011 at 9:35 PM. Reason : arrr]

11/22/2011 9:32:41 PM

Quote :

"HACK THE UNIVERSE"

11/22/2011 9:37:36 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahaha I totally didn't see the OP coming. 10/10 made me LOL

11/22/2011 9:37:49 PM

I realize this thread is about cops pepper spraying peeps....which I do not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

11/22/2011 9:50:58 PM

don't be such a jealous girlfriend djeternal

seriously, join the club. i'll even spot you $50 on http://www.sharebuilder.com
you get these $5 free trades over time and i have a shit load saved up. dude it's easy. i started with barely over $1k on my first acct. that account is sitting at just over 4k now. yeh that one took over 6 years of work... but you just keep investing in things you feel are important and can make a profit. i have investments in tech (apple among them), energy(even solar firms, i love solar and think its obviously going to kill oil someday and i'm banking a lot on it), and even tesla and their electric cars. we aren't all billionaires. but if you start taking the streets chanting and trying to raise taxes on capital gains and other profits and threaten our way of life it really really gets on our nerves

i'm sure you'd understand

but yeh i'm just a white, racist, fox news, religious, homo-phobe constantly paranoid about everything around me so make sure you don't pay attn to any of this.

you just don't like to admit that the $x i have on the market right now is actually translating into paychecks going to some other family making brilliant products that are shaping our society that we all have a hand in! the beauty of it is i can pull it out at a decent rate and take care of myself when i'm in a jam. kind of like the opposite of a credit card. instead of negative money in a bank it's positive liquid that you don't owe shit too.

but that goes against your way of thinking. b/c of our 'superior' plane you shove us into, we automagically owe you everything. thanks.


oh this isn't my day job. i work as hard as the rest of you assholes, and get 95% of all my cash from slaving away daily like the rest of you. but i dont randomly believe my tuition should be free and some schmucks should just have to front the bill for every lazy asshole in this world. it breeds laziness. and i hate lazy people more than about anything. so yeh. maybe that explains it.

you know how pryderi hates conservatives for some random reason? i'm the same way with lazy assholes who refuse to get shit done.




also i really fucking want this car:


OMG NO WAI. A CONSERVATARD WANTING THAT? NAW MANG

OH and the best part is i have a plan to get one. i put around 5k into tesla and figured 'what the fuck', and that i'd let it grow until i decide i have enough to finance one or buy it. yeh it hasn't grown too much, but it HAS grown. so basically i'm building my own tesla, and fuck you if you dont have the same drive to do the same and want to tear down or tax the system to hell that makes this shit possible.

11/22/2011 9:53:56 PM

While the term Generation X can be used to describe a wide group of people, it has come to be popularly accepted that members of this generation, wrought in the shadow of the Baby Boomers, felt alienated and disenfranchised by the cultural icons of the time. “X” described the lack of identity that members of Generation X felt — they didn’t know where they belonged, but knew for sure that they weren’t a part of the overbearing generation of Baby Boomers. The media played its part in promoting the Generation X stereotype by portraying them as grunge-listening, Starbucks-drinking, flannel-donning slackers who were quietly revolting against their overachieving, conservative Baby Boomer parents or older siblings. While the term Generation X has been used by a more punk faction of the generation, it has also labeled a group of musicians and actors represented by Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam and Janeane Garafolo of the movie Reality Bites. While Gen-Xers probably feel passionate about some things, in general they have been portrayed as apathetic, disaffected twentysomethings with no course in life.

Writer Jane Deverson was the first known person to use the term Generation X in 1964. In a study of British teenagers for Women’s Own magazine, she came across a group of teenagers who were living outside of acceptable conservative mores by sleeping around, rejecting religion and disobeying their parents. When this group was rejected for use in the magazine, she co-authored a book with Charles Hamblett called Generation X.

The idea of Generation X exists in many other cultures around the world. In France, people of a similar age are labeled, Génération Bof, translated to “Generation Whatever.” Why Generation X feels as it does is another question. Many believe that the transition from colonialism to globalism and the relative safety many Americans enjoyed after World War II had an effect. Gen-Xers’ parents had marched for equal rights and felt the impact of Kennedy’s assassination, possibly giving them a stronger sense of social responsibility. Skyrocketing costs in housing and education in the 1980s and 90s, coupled with intense competition from overachieving Baby Boomers, may also have alienated Gen-Xers.

Since most Gen-Xers have grown up and may now have “McJobs” of their own, the disaffected attitude that pervaded the 1980s and 90s has for the most part gone the way of grunge and flannel shirts, though it is likely that there are a few still living the stereotype.

11/22/2011 9:56:22 PM

I clicked on this thread again and even thought I knew what the first post was gonna say it made me laugh. I think I might be partially retarded

11/22/2011 10:15:52 PM

pepperpeeps

11/22/2011 10:16:29 PM

k

11/22/2011 10:17:10 PM

11/22/2011 10:19:34 PM

wat

11/22/2011 10:25:52 PM

Quote :

"HOT AS FUCK"

11/22/2011 10:27:42 PM

Quote :

"if you don't think the next 10+ years are going to be vastly different than the 80's you grew up in, you are wrong. we've been had. we allowed it to happen"

we didn't allow it to happen. our parents allowed it to happen.

[Edited on November 22, 2011 at 10:28 PM. Reason : we're just gonna suffer for it]

11/22/2011 10:28:02 PM

[Edited on November 22, 2011 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ]

11/22/2011 11:31:27 PM

I really suck at photoshop, but I am a creative motherfucker. So I will throw out this idea, and quite frankly I am disappointed that it took this long.

11/22/2011 11:38:31 PM

you might have a tasty idea there

11/22/2011 11:48:05 PM

let me make it easy

photoshop the cop spraying the peeps with pepper spray

you will be a winner

11/22/2011 11:51:03 PM