for being to fat...

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"CLEVELAND (AP) -- An Ohio third-grader who weighs more than 200 pounds has been taken from his family and placed into foster care after county social workers said his mother wasn't doing enough to control his weight."

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=691224#.TtPR_1aLXRI

Thoughts?

11/28/2011 1:26:15 PM

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"They say the medical problems he is at risk for do not yet pose an imminent danger."

Naw, just wait until after he develops diabetes

Seriously though, an 8-year old that weighs well more than I do wtf. Was this a case of mom couldn't afford more than the McDonald's $1 menu, or a case of sheer culinary laziness on the part of the parent.

11/28/2011 1:29:27 PM

I'm curious as to what steps were taken prior to taking away the child

^I'd wager more on 'I love my baby and I' never going to say no to him'

[Edited on November 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM. Reason : a]

11/28/2011 1:29:49 PM

I do not know how I feel about taking the child away, but I do think parents should be focused on their child's health including their weight if they are obese.

I definitely think there should be interventions, some of these kids don't stand a chance being raised they way the parents live, and it is sad.

11/28/2011 1:30:12 PM

pics or it didnt happen

[Edited on November 28, 2011 at 1:31 PM. Reason : healthy at every size up in here. ]

11/28/2011 1:31:10 PM

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"Was this a case of mom couldn't afford more than the McDonald's $1 menu"

if it was she needs to restrict her spending to like $200/day for her fatty kid

11/28/2011 1:32:39 PM

Get up
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Be a playa
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11/28/2011 1:36:40 PM

For reference, this is what a 230 lb kid looks like

11/28/2011 1:37:18 PM

Looks like a cabbage patch hectare doll.

11/28/2011 1:38:37 PM

better or worse than http://news.yahoo.com/wis-couple-accused-starving-infant-daughter-004827550.html?

11/28/2011 1:38:43 PM

swole

11/28/2011 1:39:08 PM

^^^^ wow...just wow...

[Edited on November 28, 2011 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]

11/28/2011 1:39:30 PM

He shouldn't be taken away.


The parents should be trained, the boy should be trained.



Everything else is freedom.


We are approaching "hitlers perfect society" where nobody is allowed to be unhealthy.

11/28/2011 1:40:39 PM

As we move closer and closer into a socialized healthcare system (which I disagree with) no one should be allowed to be unhealthy.

11/28/2011 1:43:21 PM

The help should be there when you need it, the help shouldn't force itself on you.



It's a fact that you can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped.

AA meetings and intervention NEVER work for this reason

11/28/2011 1:44:56 PM

It's an 8 year old kid...they don't know any better. The kid has no clue what hypertension, diabetes, or any of the other life threatening conditions he will be left with. All he knows is that he can eat whatever he wants to eat.

11/28/2011 1:47:43 PM

I would be pissed as shit if my parents did this to me. So sad for the kid, but don't agree he was taken away.

11/28/2011 1:50:40 PM

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"The parents should be trained, the boy should be trained."

Did you miss this? It's vital to your last comment

11/28/2011 1:51:06 PM

What makes you think the parents weren't offered the training?

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"The help should be there when you need it, the help shouldn't force itself on you."

Say the parents deny help, now what?

11/28/2011 1:58:24 PM

it was all muscle though

11/28/2011 1:59:39 PM

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"What makes you think the parents weren't offered the training?"

This thread is about taking the child away from the parents. Not forcing education on someone. The horror! Education!

11/28/2011 2:02:18 PM

Again, what if the parents refused training or did not use it (ie let the kid get worse)

11/28/2011 2:04:20 PM

any third grader that weighs that much is not being properly raised.

11/28/2011 2:04:52 PM

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"Again, what if the parents refused training or did not use it (ie let the kid get worse) "

Leave them alone.

11/28/2011 2:05:36 PM

So you would let them to essentially doom the kid to a painful life that will lead to an early death?

11/28/2011 2:07:11 PM

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""

Again, what if the parents refused training or did not use it (ie let the kid get worse)[quote]

then he will grow up to be like the majority of americans today, zombie bait.

but really I just think that you should have to be tested before you can take your kid home, do you know how spotless you have to be to adopt? I think that there should be a minimum criteria.... like these parents, would have been weeded out

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/baby-hitler-parents-lose-custody-kids-even-though-judge-says-no-abuse/

11/28/2011 2:09:10 PM

I don't see why you say doom. In your context, everyone is doomed from the moment they are born.


For the preservation of freedom, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we let them live in a way that makes them happy until they decide they want to change and the help will be there.

11/28/2011 2:10:50 PM

So what if the baby names are hitler. Who the fuck cares? It's just a name. Letting them keep the names reminds us of our freedom...



of course we don't have any freedom in this country, and it's clearly evident.

11/28/2011 2:13:51 PM

quit trolling

11/28/2011 2:15:43 PM

Trolling? This is not a troll my friend. This is real life.

If you're against freedom, I am against you.

11/28/2011 2:17:16 PM

ITT a certain someone is afraid of losing customers-

11/28/2011 2:17:34 PM

good thoughts, I suppose then I CAN name my child Satan's dick 666 just like I have always wanted, lol.

I just thought the name choice was going to get that poor kid's ass whooped, and every time he intoduced himself to adults we would not know why they always had a shocked expression.... but whatev, hope that kid can survive until he is 18 so he can change his name, or enlist in the neonazi armies, whatver floats the fucker's boat

11/28/2011 2:19:31 PM

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"I just thought the name choice was going to get that poor kid's ass whooped, and every time he intoduced himself to adults we would not know why they always had a shocked expression.... but whatev, hope that kid can survive until he is 18 so he can change his name, or enlist in the neonazi armies, whatver floats the fucker's boat"

The problem lies not within the name of the children, the problem lies within society. Society shouldn't be joking someone based on their name that they didn't even get to pick.

The kids didn't do anything and society fails to realize this simple little fact.

The kids should be treated with respect regardless of their name.

Judge the person, not the name. Names don't mean anything.

11/28/2011 2:23:36 PM

Well good luck with changing human nature. I'll stick to naming my kids something that at least gives them a chance..

11/28/2011 2:25:41 PM

I'd like to add that some people on this site CHOSE to have names like moron,turdhurder, and VAGINA to represent themselves.

Look at all the harm it's causing.

11/28/2011 2:32:02 PM

or rather, your misrepresentation of yourself-

11/28/2011 2:46:17 PM

So you agree that names don't mean anything?

11/28/2011 2:48:22 PM

While we are in fairytale land neither does race, religion, sexual orientation, socioeconomic background, etc.

Kumbaya.

11/28/2011 2:50:01 PM

names do not mean anything, this is a completely different issue though

making a point at your child's expense is wrong

11/28/2011 2:50:33 PM

It's not wrong. It only feels wrong because you know society isn't going to be right.

11/28/2011 2:57:01 PM

You have a moral responsibility to provide your children with the best opportunity to succeed in every facet of their lives, regardless of whatever idiotic stance you have on how society should behave... So yes, it is wrong of the parents to do something like that...

11/28/2011 3:00:29 PM

yes, if you know how society will treat a name, why would you want to cause your child unnecessary pain by naming him that.... just so you can prove it can be done I guess?

I hate kids, I don't want them, but I am still a female and have been wired to care about childrenish, and that part of my brain says it is wrong

11/28/2011 3:01:26 PM

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"I'm curious as to what steps were taken prior to taking away the child "

do we have any twwers in CPS....? They just dont come and break the door down and then carry the child off. neighbor/relative probably reported the living situation, fwiw.

11/28/2011 3:02:01 PM

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"You have a moral responsibility to provide your children with the best opportunity to succeed in every facet of their lives, regardless of whatever idiotic stance you have on how society should behave... So yes, it is wrong of the parents to do something like that..."

I fail to agree with your "morals" and "belief" system. Everyone has different morals and beliefs and you live life using tolerance. You tolerate it until it overlaps your own personal freedom.

A name is just a name and it does not, no matter how hard you try to think, it does not affect anyone but themselves.

Respect their freedom or gtfo

[Edited on November 28, 2011 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2011 3:04:50 PM

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"I'd wager more on 'I love my baby and I' never going to say no to him'"

Topic derailment, but I have seen this first hand. My mother-in-law embodies this and my children suffered for it. She NEVER wants to tell them no. Game time limits? Nope. Eat what everybody else is having for supper, even if it isn't your favorite? Nope. Only a little snack/junk food? Nope. She had no self control and couldn't "hurt their feelings" by telling them things like, do your homework, go to bed, eat your dinner, etc.

A big part of moving to the Triangle was to get my wife and kids away from her. She was making my oldest son marginally overweight. He was borderline, and his regular sized pants were getting too tight to fit him. Now he gets snacks if he eats supper, he does not have candy 24/7, he does not play games 24/7 and he is a healthier kid. She still won't say no, so we can't let them stay more than one night, tops. Pretty damn sad, but she wants to be their "favorite".

11/28/2011 3:16:10 PM

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"GeniuSxBoY: The kids didn't do anything and society fails to realize this simple little fact."

In your discussion of naming/names, you have unwittingly hit on precisely why we remove children from abusive homes. The kid didn't do anything. He is helpless against his parents' cruel and abusive attacks on his health and well-being. Keep in mind that all the ignorance and I-love-my-kid exclamations do not excuse the irresponsibility that leads to this kind of obesity; and once a parent is properly instructed, it is most definitely cruel and abusive to continue gorging a child.

I'm very open-minded. Somebody wants to have a big kid who's gonna be a linebacker some day, that's their business. But the average height of an 8 year-old is 4'1". And at 200+ pounds, if the parent is not willing and able to make some changes, then he or she should not be in charge of the child. All the appropriate interventions should be made vigorously and enthusiastically, but eventually, you got to get the kid out long enogh to get some weight off and send his parents through even more intensive interventions.

If anything, I think the social workers may have overlooked the notion that this mother is mentally ill and could use some counseling/medication, not just some information on how to provide proper nutrition.

[Edited on November 28, 2011 at 3:21 PM. Reason : ]

11/28/2011 3:18:52 PM

"Babies don't come with a user's manual"



Might as well write one and make a killing.

11/28/2011 3:19:20 PM

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"But the average height of an 8 year-old is 4'1". And at 200+ pounds, if the parent is not willing and able to make some changes, then he or she should not be in charge of the child."

So 199 lbs is acceptable?
So 198 lbs is acceptable?
So 197 lbs is acceptable?
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So 138 lbs is acceptable?


Fuck you.

11/28/2011 3:21:44 PM

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11/28/2011 3:28:10 PM

Whatever makes you sleep at night, bbehe.

11/28/2011 3:29:03 PM