how the hell is show even real? it really dont see how discovery is got away with this

12/7/2011 10:06:55 PM

Last i checked there are only a handful of moon shining experts out there. Excuse ME for wanting to get educated..

12/7/2011 10:08:46 PM

like

12/7/2011 10:09:54 PM

one of my favorite songs:

12/7/2011 10:11:49 PM

I watched the show last night and was a bit disappointed.

12/7/2011 10:12:58 PM

i just dont understand how they can follow moonshiners around and film everything, make series and put it on national televison. i just dont see how the atf is not arresting all those people

12/7/2011 10:13:46 PM

Our founding fathers were moonshiners. It's a history lesson!

12/7/2011 10:13:48 PM

Moonshining should be legal. Big government creating criminals again.

12/7/2011 10:15:11 PM

since were on show like this whos hotter.

Stephanie from sons of guns:



or paige from american guns:

12/7/2011 10:23:59 PM

Red Jacket, the company from Sons of Guns, is a fucking joke in the firearms world. bunch of retarded hacks. the chick has a busted face.

12/7/2011 10:43:05 PM

I still want an internally surpressed ak

12/7/2011 10:48:08 PM

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"one of my favorite songs:"

Agree. Probabably my favorite UT song. I was actually going to post the same thing when I saw this thread.

One of my favorite bands...whom I really really miss.

Farrar is a god




[Edited on December 7, 2011 at 10:50 PM. Reason : ]

12/7/2011 10:48:10 PM

there's a chick i seen on american hogger's that looks pretty good

12/7/2011 10:49:08 PM

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"Last i checked there are only a handful of moon shining experts out there. Excuse ME for wanting to get educated.."

have you ever taken any kind of chemistry class, at all, ever in your life?

12/7/2011 11:31:37 PM

God forbid somebody hasn't had a chem course

12/7/2011 11:41:04 PM

I don't really understand how there's that much money in it. So I went to Wikipedia...

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"A typical moonshine still may produce 1000 gallons per week and net $6000 per week for its owner. The simplicity of the process, and the easy availability of key ingredients such as corn and sugar, make enforcement a difficult task. However, the huge price advantage that moonshine once held over its "legitimate" competition legally sold has been reduced. Nevertheless, over half the retail price of a bottle of distilled spirits typically consists of taxes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshine_by_country

HOLY CRAP!

12/7/2011 11:43:40 PM

Paige - American Guns... Way hotter.

12/8/2011 12:07:50 AM

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"Red Jacket, the company from Sons of Guns, is a fucking joke in the firearms world. bunch of retarded hacks"

why is this?

just curious

12/8/2011 12:12:06 AM

legalize freedom

12/8/2011 5:42:27 AM

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"i just dont see how the atf is not arresting all those people"

Lol I had this exact same conversation last night. ATF agent is watching Discovery Channel, records the episode, uses the taping as evidence in the trial. I just can't see how this show isn't staged.

12/8/2011 7:03:27 AM

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"why is this? just curious"

I do agree with NRR. Their projects are often cool ideas, would be fun to shoot, etc., but in reality the vast majority of them are hack jobs/afro engineered/etc. Very rarely do they actually do some real gunsmithing and original work to create a new firearm.

It's either slap a new barrel on some other manufacturer's gun and then say "It's a custom Red Jacket!" or they tape 4 M16s together and add an electronic trigger control and call it the "ultimate fighter's gun".

[Edited on December 8, 2011 at 8:24 AM. Reason : .]

12/8/2011 8:23:57 AM

in short, pretty much everything they do is pointless. for every project they take on, there's already a weapon in existence that fills that niche better than whatever junk they put together.

[Edited on December 8, 2011 at 8:07 PM. Reason : adsf]

12/8/2011 8:06:43 PM

afro engineered...?

very class there.

12/8/2011 8:09:54 PM

well I mean.. He couldv'e said "nigger rigged"...

[Edited on December 8, 2011 at 8:16 PM. Reason : ged]

12/8/2011 8:15:24 PM

so pretty much Red Jacket is the Orange County Chopper of the fire arm industry?

12/8/2011 8:30:23 PM

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"there's already a weapon in existence that fills that niche better than whatever junk they put together."

But at what price? Because I'd bet their hack job solutions cost about 1/1000th what a defense contractor would charge.

12/8/2011 8:55:34 PM

yeah and it's probably 1/1000th the job a defense contractor would do. just imagine trying to get liability insurance to cover the use of some of their ridiculous firearms

also, this:

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"Paige - American Guns... Way hotter."

[Edited on December 8, 2011 at 9:04 PM. Reason : .]

12/8/2011 8:59:31 PM

^^it's apples and oranges. i'm not even talking about quality. i'm talking about concepts. their concepts are just fucked up from the very beginning.

12/8/2011 9:03:09 PM

^ If the choice is afford a hackjob that works, or don't get anything, I can see why they do decent business. Just watching some episodes of the show, it seems like they're just making weapons actually accessible to public services entities that otherwise couldn't afford them.

Complex and expensive doesn't always mean better or more reliable. There's a laundry list of military grade weapons and equipment that are/were absolute garbage in the field.

12/8/2011 9:04:50 PM

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"their concepts are just fucked up from the very beginning."

exactly. who is going to pay money for a silenced shotgun? or a guitar/semiauto rifle?? or whatever you call that chrome piece of shit motorcycle gun? it was all for the show, and they played it right and now their shop is nationally recognized

12/8/2011 9:10:56 PM

what i'm getting at is a defense contractor wouldn't even touch most of the ideas they pursue on the show

it's mindless entertainment for the masses, but those who are a little deeper in the firearm community know it's a bunch of hair-brained ridiculousness.

they built what they called an "AK-47 sniper rifle" and shot a group with it at 100 yds iirc. the accuracy wasn't any better than most hunting rifles in comparable calibers, but they sat there patting themselves on the backs. there's a reason such a weapon didn't already exist.

same for the twin water-cooled full auto AR-15s they mounted on a boat. there are much better full auto MGs that don't require a fickle water pump.

12/8/2011 9:12:08 PM

Their saiga shotgun's are pretty nice. Not sure community wise how they stand up, but I would like to have one.

12/8/2011 9:31:29 PM

i would like to have any saiga.. my next gun purchase is gonna be a .22 modded to look like an ar-15 simply becuase there fun to shoot aand cheap

12/8/2011 9:45:53 PM

hahaha

12/8/2011 9:52:24 PM

all the stuff for the show is outrageous and for the show only, but what about the everyday stuff that they make. Is that laughable within the industry?

[Edited on December 8, 2011 at 11:39 PM. Reason : to much wine]

12/8/2011 11:25:02 PM

Paige might be under 18...
but I would do some evil shit to that poor girl.


Also Moonshiners is fucking awesome!

12/8/2011 11:36:34 PM

12/8/2011 11:55:02 PM

Enough with the gun bullshit. Take it elsewhere. This is about moonshiners.

12/9/2011 7:30:11 AM

So have these guys been arrested by ATF yet?

12/9/2011 9:15:55 AM

'The Last One'

Popcorn's last run

made by a state alum too.

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/tv/the-last-one-popcorn-and-moonshine-in-north-carolina

12/9/2011 9:31:07 AM

^ That sounds interesting. Too bad it's on some channel I don't get.

12/9/2011 9:34:47 AM

why is that woman's neck 2 feet long?

12/9/2011 9:35:43 AM

that's old...you can buy the documentary. PBS shows it sometimes too.



is a good book that goes in depth about shining in the late 1800s, early 1900's. One of the main reasons that moonshining was so widespread (other than prohibition), what that you could make significantly more money from a bushel of corn in shine form than in bushel form....And is was much easier to transport down the mountain than a bunch corn bushels.

[Edited on December 9, 2011 at 9:40 AM. Reason : .]

12/9/2011 9:36:24 AM

how does this guy operate after showing him as a fire chief....and not get caught.

12/15/2011 12:23:56 AM

^It's possible this show has already been filmed (this season) and those guys are already facing charges. People will actually do stuff like this knowing full well they'll get caught. If that's the case (which I'm sure it is) there was definitely monetary incentive from Discovery.

12/15/2011 1:10:36 AM

They showed Popcorn dancing in a clip on How The States Got Their Shapes when talking about the hillbillies of West Virginia

12/15/2011 7:22:16 AM

paige is hotter than stephanie but both are kinda wonky

regardless ... im sure they both look great from behind and in the dark

[Edited on December 15, 2011 at 2:00 PM. Reason : sdf]

12/15/2011 2:00:15 PM

^this


and I watched this moonshiners show on DSC... seems pretty stupid to me. I like real documentaries.

12/15/2011 2:02:19 PM

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"IT REALLY DONT"

12/15/2011 2:03:32 PM

set em up

12/15/2011 2:07:51 PM