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http://www.technicianonline.com/viewpoint/don-t-hold-the-door-for-me-1.2702133

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"Females, have you ever tried to open a door for a guy and they start arguing with you? Or have you ever had a guy deliberately get in front of you to open the door right before you reach it? Well if you haven't, you are one of the few lucky ones. I say this because in our society we have been taught that it is acceptable and respectful for a guy to open a door for females but not the other way around.

Last time I checked, we live in the 21st century and we women are more than capable of opening the door for ourselves. Many people do not realize that opening the door for a female is not just being nice or a gentleman, but it is also a form of oppression. Believe it or not, it's as if we are telling females they cannot take care of themselves, including door opening.

Now, I realize a lot of people would be quick to disagree with me. Most females I talk to think it is ridiculous to say a guy holding a door open for me is oppressing me, but the truth is the truth.

I realized this is the kind of thing holding females back. A guy actually told me he was supposed to be holding the door for me and I was going against the "norm." It is not OK for a complete stranger to tell me I am wrong for holding a door open for him.

Do not get me wrong, I am not saying all door holding is wrong. If someone is walking behind you and you just let a door slam in their face, that's simply rude; even I would have a problem with that. So do not confuse my hatred of men who always hold the door open for females with the obvious rudeness of letting a door slam in someone's face. I also think it's rude if you see someone carrying a lot and you walk past without holding the door for him or her.

My problem is just one thing and one thing only: guys deliberately holding the door for a female more than able to do it herself. This is especially annoying if the guy makes a conscious effort to hold the door when the female's hand is already on the handle. Even worse is when a guy refuses to go in a door a girl is holding and insists on holding the door instead.

I have had numerous arguments with strangers because I had been holding the door for them and they refuse to walk through the door. Or, the guy will keep telling me to walk through the door first, which is particularly irritating. Unless I am in a rush to get somewhere, I will argue with any man who tells me I should not be holding the door for him.

There are actually websites that teach men how to be a "perfect gentleman" by opening doors. The websites include tips for every possible door scenario, from car doors to double doors. It boggles my mind that men and women believe if a man opens a door for you he is the "perfect gentleman." It amuses me.

In today's society door holding should be the last thing on any guy's mind when it comes to respecting women. Opening a door doesn't make a guy any more or less of a man or a nice guy. We have come so far and realize that women do not need the "help" they were once believed to need.

If we can gain the respect we deserve from every man, I am sure women wouldn't think twice if a guy didn't open a door for us every time the opportunity did or didn't present itself."

2/18/2012 9:53:25 PM

Krallum
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comeon thepeter you know you gotta bold some of that shit

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

2/18/2012 9:55:44 PM

umop-apisdn
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k. u mad? do not feed the troll. iop1.

2/18/2012 9:57:28 PM

Krallum
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the truth is the truth

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

2/18/2012 9:57:48 PM

BJCaudill21
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what a dyke

2/18/2012 9:59:03 PM

ThePeter
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throw some bold up in that bitch

http://www.technicianonline.com/search-1.2265630?q=%22Nijah+Toshumba%2C+Staff+Columnist%22

She's a pretty dreary person.

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"The other day I was sitting in my sociology class, and my professor asked the entire class two questions. The first question she asked was, "Do you all believe that women in America are still being oppressed?" Most of the class quietly said no, and very few people said yes. She then asked us another question: "Do you think racism still exists in our society?" and without hesitation the whole class said yes. Some even laughed like it was a rhetorical question, and the answer was obvious."


I think we found out where her feminism comes from.

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" As an African American, there have been difficult points in classes when I am outnumbered by the Caucasians in the room, but this has never phased me. What gets to me more is when there is a room full of students, and the seat next to me remains empty until someone is forced to sit next to me. It's as though they are scared of me or any other seat in the room would be better than next to the "black girl."

I didn't notice such behavior until it continued happening over and over. At first I just thought they didn't want to squeeze down the aisle to get the last seat, but once I added my race in the equation, I started to think otherwise. I am willing to admit my assumption could be completely wrong or misguided, but something in me believes there is still racism on this campus."


Man she's a pleasant person. Maybe people aren't sitting next to you because people don't like sitting next to people in general. In that article she also fails to acknowledge that this:

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"Although our university is home to nearly 35,000 students, you rarely find groups of friends who contain several different races. You can observe this all over campus in the Atrium, the gymnasium or the dining halls. We have a horrible tendency to stick to "our own kind.""


is pure human nature, all around the world.

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"I will be the first to admit, when I choose the College of Humanities and Social Sciences I thought I would be dodging the serious hard work. But I, and plenty of others, have found that I wasn't actually dodging any bullets. I realized that I have to work just as hard as any engineering major in order to make the grades I want.

...

When people ask me what my major is and I tell them it's Communication and Media and Women and genders studies, the follow up question is always without fail, "and what exactly do you plan on doing with that major?" As though those two majors really won't take me anywhere in life or guarantee me a sufficient career."




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"It is a proven fact that if you want to have a healthy lifestyle, you need between six to eight hours of sleep every night. Apparently this does not apply to college students. For me, it is hard enough to get to bed before 1 a.m. If it's not my schoolwork keeping me up, then its some form of social media that's keeping me from sleep."


CHASS MAJOR WHO BURNS TIME ON FACEBOOK

COMPLAINS ABOUT SCHOOLWORK KEEPING HER UP LATE


[Edited on February 18, 2012 at 10:10 PM. Reason : lkj]

2/18/2012 10:03:16 PM

yrrah
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i wanted to read it but I couldn't see where to start since nothing was bold

2/18/2012 10:08:43 PM

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" Believe it or not, it's as if we are telling females they cannot take care of themselves, including door opening."


lol

2/18/2012 10:15:28 PM

aaronburro
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gee, I don't want someone to do something nice for me because I am too much of a bitch to accept that someone might actually be nice to me

2/18/2012 10:20:54 PM

ThePeter
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Good lord.

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"For example, ovarian cancer has a month devoted to bringing awareness to women around the world. However, I have never heard of it until now, which is unfortunate. It is known to be the silent killer in women, meaning that, unlike breast cancer, there is really no way to fully detect ovarian cancer ahead of time. If one gets breast cancer they can possibly feel a lump forming in their tissue.

....

Cancer is cancer, and it kills millions of people every year, so if we are going to give attention to one form of cancer we should give it to all, regardless of the cause of the cancer."


Discovers ovarian cancer because it has a month dedicated to it.

Doesn't want any cancers given special attention.

then this

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"This month we are praising the people who have given so much to our American society and have brought to our culture many different and sensational things. However, for all the celebration this month promises, the question arises: How can we expect Americans to celebrate the accomplishments of a group of people they still meet with such disdain?

...

Despite N.C. State's large population, not many students come to the University's Hispanic Culture Month programs and learn something new about Hispanic culture. I have confidence that one of the main reasons for poor attendance is because people do not and will not see the importance of this month. To them it is just another month because they are not educated or taught to respect other cultures besides their own.

Although there is not a large Hispanic population on campus, we as a school need to do more to increase our knowledge of Hispanic culture. America is not America without Latin culture."


1) Don't dedicate one month to a cancer, all cancers deserve recognition!

Dedicate more attention than just one month to a culture, they need more recognition!

2) So, you want to help the image of Hispanic culture in America...but you think having a month of recognition and University sponsored events are both futile efforts because the image of Hispanic culture in America is tarnished.

And for shits and giggles:

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"My four best friends are all Latinas and, even with this month of recognition, they still feel under appreciated."


Where's your white/black/asian best friends, Miss Diversity? Also, I'm guessing they're chicks, so why all of a sudden do these chicks need to be pandered to?

2/18/2012 10:21:29 PM

aaronburro
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if I ever saw this bitch on campus, I'd be sure to slam the fuckin door in her face and stare at her as she opens it up

2/18/2012 10:24:59 PM

ncstatetke
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wow The Technician is trying really hard to stir some shit by publishing this troll's work

2/18/2012 10:40:05 PM

Snewf
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"When people ask me what my major is and I tell them it's Communication and Media and Women and genders studies, the follow up question is always without fail, "and what exactly do you plan on doing with that major?" As though those two majors really won't take me anywhere in life or guarantee me a sufficient career.""


Reactions like that are one of the reasons why I left State. I got sick of prick engineering students being smug.

I took my money elsewhere to get my BA in Literature with minor in Women's Studies and MA in Media Studies.

2/19/2012 4:54:23 AM

craptastic
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What an awful bitch

2/19/2012 5:07:28 AM

lewisje
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I ♥ IU for not even having "prick engineering students"

I got my BS in Mathematics with minor in Economics there

[Edited on February 19, 2012 at 5:15 AM. Reason : You'd think I majored in Gender Studies from my posts but I only took 1 class, non-LGBT-based.

2/19/2012 5:12:41 AM

Snewf
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look I don't hate engineers, I just hate pricks

the cocky young guys that think they're smarter than everyone else because they chose a field that they believe will get them paid - you see this in some business students too

the difference between these engineers and the business students is that the business students usually have better social skills and engineers' earnings tend to hit a ceiling after a while

business, and in a somewhat different way, the arts have greater variation in earning with basically no limit to potential earnings (and no limit to potential losses)

2/19/2012 5:53:45 AM

ssclark
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what a massive bitch of a cunt she is

2/19/2012 5:56:36 AM

Snewf
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she just picked a stupid thing to get pissed about

there's so much more that is legitimately infuriating

she should read Black Feminist Thought by Patricia Hill Collins

2/19/2012 6:00:26 AM

settledown
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Snewf, how is your career going

2/19/2012 6:39:25 AM

budlight2256
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Well, that was a fun read.

I guess I have oppressed some females in my time.

2/19/2012 7:06:21 AM

se7entythree
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wow. she sounds miserable. i'm happy for somebody to open the door for me. that means i don't have to touch the handle/knob/bar. lol

2/19/2012 8:01:34 AM

bmel
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I always appreciated someone holding a door for me. I feel like women getting paid less for the same work is a more important issue. But I guess she doesn't care about money.

2/19/2012 10:55:30 AM

porcha
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if I ever saw this bitch on campus, I would follow her to her next door and open it for her

2/19/2012 10:59:40 AM

budlight2256
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^ haha

2/19/2012 11:06:07 AM

wolfpackgrrr
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This girl sounds like an insufferable cunt. Men can hold doors open for me any time they want.

2/19/2012 11:10:36 AM

Mr. Joshua
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Bitch makes me want to make myself a sandwich.

2/19/2012 11:15:14 AM

ThePeter
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I'm pretty sure I ran across far more business pricks than engineer pricks

2/19/2012 11:23:05 AM

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"Snewf, how is your career going"


nice one, troll

I've got interviews coming up

2/19/2012 11:32:13 AM

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And I thought opening a door for someone of any gender/race was just a common courtesy. I guess I have been oppressing everyone.

2/19/2012 11:41:10 AM

Mr. Joshua
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The automatic doors at the grocery store are the most oppressive of all.

2/19/2012 11:43:25 AM

Snewf
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^^ of course you have

your rich white penis makes it impossible for you NOT to

2/19/2012 11:52:31 AM

Fareako
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It all makes sense now.

2/19/2012 12:00:14 PM

skokiaan
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Quote :
"The automatic doors at the grocery store are the most oppressive of all."

2/19/2012 12:02:18 PM

paerabol
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this has been an entertaining thread

-prick engineer and zealous door-holder

2/19/2012 1:09:59 PM

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I tend to open doors for people of both sexes because I'm a nice person. SORRY EVERYBODY.

2/19/2012 1:38:49 PM

TreeTwista10
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if i was going into a building with a revolving door right before she was, once i got in i'd grab the door and slow it down so she Beiber'd herself

2/19/2012 1:44:15 PM

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That dude's master trollin'

2/19/2012 1:51:33 PM

Kickstand
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She spells "okay" as "ok." I stopped reading right there.

2/19/2012 1:53:54 PM

Roflpack
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ok?

2/19/2012 1:54:40 PM

aaronburro
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"Reactions like that are one of the reasons why I left State. I got sick of prick engineering students being smug."

that's not being a prick, that's asking a legitimate question. what the fuck are you gonna do with a college degree that uniquely qualifies you to do nothing? Literature? Who is gonna pay you to read a book all day? Women's Studies? Pure, unadulterated bullshit! I can appreciate a class or two to get a unique perspective on how someone else sees and experiences the world, but not a whole god damned degree on it? fuck that.

[Edited on February 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM. Reason : ]

2/19/2012 1:57:07 PM

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"I took my money elsewhere to get my BA in Literature with minor in Women's Studies and MA in Media Studies."


lulz

2/19/2012 2:02:15 PM

ThePeter
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I mean, maybe people are legitimately curious what you do with a Women's Studies degree. I know I am.

2/19/2012 2:06:24 PM

aaronburro
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I think it's pretty obvious what one does with a Women's Studies degree: goes around like an insufferable cunt bitching about shit like this

2/19/2012 2:09:27 PM

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"I mean, maybe people are legitimately curious what you do with a Women's Studies degree. I know I am."


Family and Consumer Sciences at Meredith was always the one I never understood.

Just drop the pretense and call it an MRS degree.

2/19/2012 2:14:19 PM

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"I realized this is the kind of thing holding females back."


Really? I would have gone with the poor math and driving skills, myself. All in all, she sounds like a delightful person to be around, always arguing about some pointless bullshit.

2/19/2012 2:15:16 PM

ctnz71
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Someone should invite her here for some conversation

2/19/2012 2:36:56 PM

wdprice3
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I'd hold the door for her, then slam it in her face when she got to it.

2/19/2012 2:49:18 PM

spöokyjon

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"I think it's pretty obvious what one does with a Women's Studies degree: goes around like an insufferable cunt bitching about shit like this"

For whatever it's worth, my wife is about to finish her masters' degree in WGS, starting a doctoral program next semester, and she thinks the author of this article sounds like a huge bitch. This shit is like the feminism equivalent of a college freshman who just took his first philosophy class and comes on here being like WHAT IF ALL OF THIS ISN'T EVEN REAAALLLLL, MAAAAAN?

2/19/2012 2:51:21 PM

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"he cocky young guys that think they're smarter than everyone else because they chose a field that they believe will get them paid - you see this in some business students too

the difference between these engineers and the business students is that the business students usually have better social skills and engineers' earnings tend to hit a ceiling after a while/"


LOL.

1) There are twice as many CEOs with bachelors degrees in engineering than there are with bachelors in business. Way to stereotype an entire discipline.
2) Has it ever occurred to you that maybe a lot of those cocky young guys (and women -- way to stereotype) actually are smarter than everyone else?

[Edited on February 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .]

2/19/2012 3:17:05 PM

Snewf
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1) Please to cite your source. Also, the CEOs with engineering degrees aren't fucking engineers anymore. They made a jump into management.

2) I was speaking from experience about particular people who all happened to be young, arrogant men.

2/19/2012 5:52:28 PM

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