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ThePeter
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-27/ohio-school-shooting/53267688/1

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/02/at_least_4_students_hurt_in_sh.html

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"CHARDON, Ohio -- At least four students have been injured in a shooting this morning at Chardon High School. The shooter has not been found.

Geauga County Sheriff's spokesman John Hiscox confirmed there had been a shooting in the school, but would give no details shortly after 8 this morning.

A local official confirmed the number of students. He said three boys and a girl were injured. Four ambulances -- from Chardon, Kirtland, Burton and Chesterland -- are waiting at the door of the high school at 8:15 a.m.

Little information has been made available. Chardon police and sheriff's officials said the school was on lockdown. Parents are crowding just off school grounds.

The shooting happened in the cafeteria, according to a waiting parent, Jessica Bryant, whose freshman daughter, Allison, had seen it and texted her.

A city official said they don't know where the shooter is, and parents were being told at 8:21 that it might not be safe to remain near the school. Maple Elementary school across the street was being evacuated.

Police are blocking streets near the school as they go through the building in search of the shooter. A teacher saw the shooting and chased the gun-wielder, who escaped.

At 8:30, students were being evacuated from the school and are going to Maple Elementary. Many, scared, could be seen holding hands and crying.
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[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM. Reason : better news story]

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 8:48 AM. Reason : credit to TWW ACTION NEWS REPORTER The5thsoth]

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"A teacher saw the shooting and chased the gun-wielder, who escaped."


[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 8:49 AM. Reason : adsf]

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"Shooting in Chardon 5 killed shooter not found yet this isn't a good way to start the week #roverradio"


[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 8:50 AM. Reason : more news from TWW ACTION NEWS CORRESPONDENT The5thsoth]

2/27/2012 8:47:11 AM

Skack
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First

2/27/2012 8:51:15 AM

MiGZ
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Second!

2/27/2012 8:52:49 AM

Pikey
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If it happened in a cafeteria, how do they not know who the shooter is and how did they let him escaped without seeing where he went?

2/27/2012 8:55:58 AM

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well its possible the shooter was wearing all black or had a mask on, etc etc. one of my good friends was attacked a few months ago and he said that everything had happened so fast that he couldn't even process key information like what the attackers looked like or what kind of car they were driving.

2/27/2012 9:03:36 AM

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"Parent Jeannette Roth, who had heard from her son Joshua, a junior, said he told her the shooting happened while students were eating breakfast in the cafeteria and waiting for first period. Suddenly a boy "stood up and started shooting, and then it was chaos." "

2/27/2012 9:09:41 AM

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ibt we need harder gun laws

2/27/2012 9:12:08 AM

ThePeter
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haha more like ibtwdprice3 "this must be a fake news story, guns aren't allowed on school campus"

2/27/2012 9:13:39 AM

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Gun laws don't protect anyone and only come into play after the fact.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
If there were someone else armed in that school they could have killed the shooter.
Guns laws have created a "safe to kill" zone for active shooters. They know they can go into a school and start killing people and there is nothing to stop them.
More people are killed by cars than guns but no one wants to take cars away.

2/27/2012 9:17:29 AM

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"Killing people in the morning... THAT AIN'T RIGHT!"

2/27/2012 9:19:06 AM

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Where the hell is the bold

I'm Krallum and I approved this message

2/27/2012 9:20:44 AM

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"Chardon Local Schools superintendent Joseph Bergant II told Fox 8 News in Cleveland the suspected lone shooter has been taken into police custody."

2/27/2012 9:27:50 AM

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Who eats breakfast at school in High School?

2/27/2012 11:12:32 AM

Ernie
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neilyoung.jpg

2/27/2012 11:16:28 AM

Slave Famous
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^^ Poor kids LOL

2/27/2012 11:17:45 AM

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"neilyoung.jpg"


beat me to it

2/27/2012 11:19:41 AM

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^^^^ people who get free meals.

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 11:23 AM. Reason : ^^ beat me to it as well.]

2/27/2012 11:23:35 AM

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One student dead..

2/27/2012 12:23:37 PM

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"[Updated 10:43 a.m. ET] A student at Chardon High School, Evan Erasmus, told CNN affiliate WEWS-TV that the suspect in Monday's shootings may have posted a threatening message Sunday night on the social networking service Twitter.

"I think he said that he was going to bring a gun to school and I think that everyone just blew it off like he was joking," Erasmus said."

2/27/2012 12:27:18 PM

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" Who eats breakfast at school in High School?"


My freshman/sophomore years I rode the bus. my bus had to make 2 routes, so I got to school like an hour and a half before school started. sometimes I ate at school.

2/27/2012 12:31:09 PM

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"this must be a fake news story, guns aren't allowed on school campus"


Quote :
"Gun laws don't protect anyone and only come into play after the fact.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
If there were someone else armed in that school they could have killed the shooter.
Guns laws have created a "safe to kill" zone for active shooters. They know they can go into a school and start killing people and there is nothing to stop them.
More people are killed by cars than guns but no one wants to take cars away."

2/27/2012 12:36:17 PM

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I've had breakfast at school too. Like ^ said sometimes your bus gets there ass early and it's something to do, especially inside when it's too cold to socialize outside

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"TWW ACTION NEWS CORRESPONDENT The5thsoth"


Lol at correspondent, tww is everywhere yo

2/27/2012 12:38:56 PM

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I did not even know my school had breakfast until one day during inclement weather they said something about it being cancelled.

2/27/2012 12:42:45 PM

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shooter is T.J. Lane, a junior at Chardon HS: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002040079941&sk=info

2/27/2012 12:45:35 PM

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For once I would love to see the plethora of records out there about concealed weapons stopping madmen on shooting sprees. I mean I know there was that one off duty cop ad a city board meeting a year or so back, but that's honestly the only one I can remember.

Cops get killed and they have unconcealed weapons. How does that happen if the THREAT of a concealed weapon is all that is needed to stop shootings like this forever?

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 12:50 PM. Reason : .]

2/27/2012 12:46:19 PM

wdprice3
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^who said the threat of concealed weapons would stop all threats forever?

By the way, cops are easy to identify. CCers are not. Element of surprise is handy and useful in many situations.

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

2/27/2012 12:50:18 PM

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Trenchcoat Mafia 2012?

2/27/2012 12:51:16 PM

goalielax
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No one has explicitly said that, but it is implied every time someone says something like "Guns laws have created a "safe to kill" zone for active shooters. They know they can go into a school and start killing people and there is nothing to stop them."

You know who has the element of surprise? The guy who is about to murder people. No concealed weapon is going to stop him from pulling the trigger first.


[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM. Reason : .]

2/27/2012 12:54:26 PM

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I do not think there really is a solution for school shootings.

Maybe better parenting...but thats not going to happen. :/

2/27/2012 12:56:10 PM

wdprice3
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^^well something is implied, but either way, it doesn't imply an absolute, nor is that statement an absolute. Not every "gun free" zone is a hotbed of crime, but many are. Just like the threat of potential CCers won't stop every crime, but it does prevent some, maybe even many.

and the threat of CCers may stop such an individual; or it might not. Regardless, the innocent around the shooter should have at least a fair chance at saving their own life and not be mowed down by a criminal.

^true. I mean, allowing teachers to CC in this situation may not have done anything; sure the threat may have stopped it, we don't know. It sounds like the kid shot and ran in quick fashion, so he would have likely not been confronted. However, I think the possibility for the threat of a teacher CCing may have impacted this person's choices (it had the potential to at least) and therefore should be allowed. The burden of proof shouldn't be on the freedom, it should be on restricting the freedom. Someone show me where CCers are shooting up schools, where CCH holding teachers are killing coworkers and students.

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

2/27/2012 12:56:55 PM

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2/27/2012 12:58:26 PM

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one possible solution is for the parents to lock up/secure their guns properly

no, it isn't THE solution but it would sure make it more difficult for kids to get their hands on a gun

2/27/2012 12:59:13 PM

wdprice3
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^this, too. but was that the source in this case?

2/27/2012 1:02:21 PM

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TJ Lane

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2/27/2012 1:06:16 PM

ctnz71
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Is that Scott Woods little bro

2/27/2012 1:07:09 PM

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" I mean, allowing teachers to CC in this situation may not have done anything"


I would not trust most teachers to carry a firearm around my kid. Teachers sometimes do stupid shit and unless they had extensive training or experience with firearms would not be qualified.

They also have the distracton of teaching....that would get in the way of keeping a gun secured on campus.

Armed security on all campuses would be better, but it costs money, the schools do not have money right now.

2/27/2012 1:12:49 PM

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HARD

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=130228070388528&id=100002040079941&set=a.118783041533031.22936.100002040079941&refid=13

2/27/2012 1:13:30 PM

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"In a time long since, a time of repent, The Renaissance. In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone. The streets were his home. His thoughts would solely consist of "why do we exist?" His only company to confide in was the vermin in the street. He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet. They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear. His pain had made him sincere. He was better than the rest, all those ones he detests, within their castles, so vain. Selfish and conceited. They couldn't care less about the peasents they mistreated. They were in their own world, it was a joyous one too. That castle, she stood just to do all she could to keep the peasents at bay, not the enemy away. They had no enemies in their filthy orgy. And in her, the castles every story, was just another chamber of Lucifer's Laboratory. The world is a sandbox for all the wretched sinners. They simply create what they want and make themselves the winners. But the true winner, he has nothing at all. Enduring the pain of waiting for that castle to fall. Through his good deeds, the rats and the fleas. He will have for what he pleads, through the eradication of disease. So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. "Stay back!" The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. "Oh God, have mercy, please!" The castle, she gasped and then so imprisoned her breath, to the shallow confines of her fragile chest. I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep. I am Death. And you have always been the sod. So repulsive and so odd. You never even deserved the presence of God, and yet, I am here. Around your cradle I plod. Came on foot, without shod. How improper, how rude. However, they shall not mind the mud on my feet if there is blood on your sheet. Now! Feel death, not just mocking you. Not just stalking you but inside of you. Wriggle and writhe. Feel smaller beneath my might. Seizure in the Pestilence that is my scythe. Die, all of you."

2/27/2012 1:15:48 PM

wdprice3
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^^well they'd obviously go through CCH training and likely further training for their school environment; I see no problem with that at all. And teaching being a distraction? How so? And the firearm would be on the person at all times, not laying around in drawers.

2/27/2012 1:16:10 PM

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This all falls into the same category of bullying. There might be indicators of an at-risk student potentially starting an altercation, but no one wants to intervene for fear of the backlash from parents.

2/27/2012 1:17:29 PM

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Is there a way to voluntairly and permanently terminate your parental rights and obligations to your kid?

Im pretty sure if my kid did some shit like that I would write him a fuck off and die letter and never want to speak or be associated with them again. (I dont have any kids)

I guess maybe its different when it is your kid....but at some point people need to just accept their offspring is a worthless, repugnant, defective peice of humanity and wish them the worst.

2/27/2012 1:17:52 PM

wdprice3
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^haha, ditto

2/27/2012 1:22:11 PM

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I remember there was once a time where I thought TA McClendon could have a better career than Maurice Clarett. Then I thought Maurice Clarett would do better.

I was wrong both times.

2/27/2012 1:23:14 PM

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"but was that the source in this case?"

not sure. i think the fbi is currently executing search warrants on the property where this kid lived, so it is definitely a possibility

2/27/2012 1:31:44 PM

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"In a time long since, a time of repent, The Renaissance. In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone. The streets were his home. His thoughts would solely consist of "why do we exist?" His only company to confide in was the vermin in the street. He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet. They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear. His pain had made him sincere. He was better than the rest, all those ones he detests, within their castles, so vain. Selfish and conceited. They couldn't care less about the peasents they mistreated. They were in their own world, it was a joyous one too. That castle, she stood just to do all she could to keep the peasents at bay, not the enemy away. They had no enemies in their filthy orgy. And in her, the castles every story, was just another chamber of Lucifer's Laboratory. The world is a sandbox for all the wretched sinners. They simply create what they want and make themselves the winners. But the true winner, he has nothing at all. Enduring the pain of waiting for that castle to fall. Through his good deeds, the rats and the fleas. He will have for what he pleads, through the eradication of disease. So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. "Stay back!" The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. "Oh God, have mercy, please!" The castle, she gasped and then so imprisoned her breath, to the shallow confines of her fragile chest. I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep. I am Death. And you have always been the sod. So repulsive and so odd. You never even deserved the presence of God, and yet, I am here. Around your cradle I plod. Came on foot, without shod. How improper, how rude. However, they shall not mind the mud on my feet if there is blood on your sheet. Now! Feel death, not just mocking you. Not just stalking you but inside of you. Wriggle and writhe. Feel smaller beneath my might. Seizure in the Pestilence that is my scythe. Die, all of you."


tl;dr

2/27/2012 1:32:47 PM

wdprice3
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"not sure. i think the fbi is currently executing search warrants on the property where this kid lived, so it is definitely a possibility"


ah ok. yeh, if the parents didn't have the firearms locked up, then fuck them too. however, I wouldn't rule theft or street guns with this little shit.

2/27/2012 1:35:19 PM

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thom yorke's little bro?

2/27/2012 1:43:43 PM

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what exactly does that sign he is holding say?

also what is the origin of those pics

2/27/2012 1:45:11 PM

ThePeter
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HE LIKES VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES CATS

BAN CATS

2/27/2012 1:47:33 PM

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surprised no one has remarked on the shittiness of that room he is in

[Edited on February 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM. Reason : .]

2/27/2012 1:50:04 PM

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