http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-Bobbed-2-1-2-Ton-4x4-M35A2-Military-Truck-/251033864136?pt=Military_Vehicles&hash=item3a72c8c7c8



I'd like to swap a 5.9L Cummins in there...

4/8/2012 3:22:16 AM

i'd rather keep the multifuel engine

4/8/2012 8:39:23 AM

the multifuel makes no power and generally sucks balls.

i also wouldn't do a cummins either.


http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=12402

4/8/2012 1:24:12 PM

Yeah, but you can burn gasoline, diesel, motor oil, Automatic transmission fluid...hell prob even kerosene/jet fuel.

4/8/2012 3:14:03 PM

Whats the MPG on something like that?

5?

4/8/2012 6:31:20 PM

Lol, miles per gallon. I think fpg would be better.

4/8/2012 6:43:15 PM

8-15 for the diesel. i dunno about the multi fuel.

4/8/2012 7:27:11 PM

haha... With the multifuel, probably around 8-10mpg combined. Maybe 10 city, closer to 7 or 8 hwy. (unladen). Top speed is about 55mph

I'm curious if swapping a Cummins would help improve mileage (30%-50%) while adding power.

[Edited on April 8, 2012 at 7:29 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2012 7:28:32 PM

m35 a3 has the best engine but no longer has a manual

4/8/2012 7:34:22 PM

When talking about a truck this big, mileage is generally not a consideration. The M35 sometimes can be found with a multi-fuel cummins engine instead of the continental (unless you can find a "whistler turbo" continental).

The M35A3 had the 3116 Cat, but they are much more expensive. The 3116 is an amazing motor, however does not seem to be a ton more powerful than the M35A2 (I have ridden in both).

You can find a normal 6x6 M35A2 at a local yard in VA for around $2500 in running/driving shape.

4/8/2012 7:54:24 PM

mmmmm portals

4/8/2012 8:48:49 PM

easternsurplus is the place for a deuce.

i will have one in the near future.

4/8/2012 9:21:52 PM

I'm plannin on picking one up in the the next year or so too. Starting my research as of now...

4/8/2012 9:34:36 PM

Quote :

"Top speed is about 55mph"

that's primarily a gearing issue.

4/8/2012 10:08:18 PM

She's not gonna hit 85 with only 126hp Tho either.

4/8/2012 10:12:33 PM

^With the right gears, it should. Would it take a long time? Yes.

4/8/2012 10:57:52 PM

Tail wind wouldn't hurt...

4/8/2012 11:36:19 PM

i can tell you this... my 200hp wrangler didn't like going 85 and it has probably 1/4 the drag and weight of this thing.

4/9/2012 8:02:45 AM

^Probably 1/8th of the torque as well. 126hp aint spinning any tires, but these engines likely have well over 500lbft of torque.

Still would take a looooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg time to get past 55 with the right gears though.

4/9/2012 8:26:46 AM

http://ecomodder.com/forum/tool-aero-rolling-resistance.php?Weight=13000&WeightUnits=lbs&CRR=.015&Cd=.45&FrontalArea=60&FrontalAreaUnits=ft^2&FuelWh=33557&IceEfficiency=.22&DrivetrainEfficiency=.95&ParasiticOverhead=0&rho=1.22&FromToStep=5-200-5

HA! no 85 mph without upping the boost etc.

and that's with a conservative rolling resistance and Cd.

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 10:18 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2012 10:18:16 AM

I wonder what the towing capacity is of that thing

4/9/2012 11:42:20 AM

http://m35a2.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/you-and-your-m35a2.pdf

4/9/2012 12:01:27 PM

Quote :

"^Probably 1/8th of the torque as well. 126hp aint spinning any tires, but these engines likely have well over 500lbft of torque. "

1/8 of 500 lb ft is 62.5 lb ft of torque.
Unless these things are making 1800 lb ft. of torque your "1/8th comparison" is way off for a I-6 powered TJ Wrangler.

4/9/2012 2:24:53 PM

Could possibly be the coolest tow vehcile for the boat It would only cost me $300 in fuel to get it to and from lake gaston

4/9/2012 3:31:16 PM

lol... if you had a winch and a tilt bed you could put a boat in the back and tow another.


and seriously... might as well get the 5 ton... they have better engine options anyway.

http://www.easternsurplus.net/images/Services/M813/M813a.JPG

4/9/2012 3:44:56 PM

5 Ton definitely requires CDL, hence the 2.5 ton is a popular option.



[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2012 4:19:59 PM

The truck in the first post is probably marked up between $2000 and $4000 over what was paid for it as surplus, and the guy who bobbed it probably sold the extra axle for at least $1500. Also I don't see what year it was overhauled? Usually that is a selling point as well.

[Edited on April 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM. Reason : As mentioned earlier, you want a whistler.]

4/10/2012 9:53:54 AM

I am imagining the back of that filled with a college student's apartment furniture. I loled

4/10/2012 10:16:14 AM

Last night while I was riding on my motorcycle, I spotted a Duece parked on a side street in front of a house off Glenwood Ave.

Oh god I can't stop shopping for them...

4/14/2012 10:43:55 PM

i would love to have a deuce. I just have no good place to keep it and no real use for it. it's just a matter of wanting one.

Quote :

"It would only cost me $300 in fuel to get it to and from lake gaston "

hell, it'll burn used motor oil, heating oil, ATF, discarded fryer grease from the landfill, you name it.

4/14/2012 10:53:30 PM

4/16/2012 8:54:37 PM

^isn't that from the old Mazda 626?

4/16/2012 9:00:02 PM

not sure, but its awesome and i want one in my car

4/16/2012 9:54:39 PM

^^ yes!

4/16/2012 10:34:43 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/04/19/buried-treasure-in-burma-squadron-lost-wwii-spitfires-to-be-exhumed/

4/19/2012 9:07:06 PM

my 5 ton has an ass of torque, you can start unloaded in any gear in low range and the first two in high. It gets about 5mpg. Its less like a truck and more like a tractor with a bench seat, damn near scary to get wound up because of how spartan it is, especially with the top off. The rear tandems are like a slinky when going over obstacles. If you get a five ton you automatically get power steering and air over hydraulic brakes. It is a 50s style truck no matter how you look at it but it sure is fun to drive. Just wear ear plugs, that bitch is loud.

4/19/2012 11:18:15 PM

You have one of these cars in 5 ton? Can you post pics?

4/20/2012 12:50:28 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-406-Unimog-406-Mercedes-Rock-Crawler-Military-Truck-/190667285695?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c64a7e4bf#ht_982wt_1182

WANT!!

4/20/2012 12:53:27 PM

^just sent that link to my father and am fairly certain he will purchase it, lol.

want to buy his 850i just to make sure he doesnt use the "well i have too many cars" excuse?

4/20/2012 1:00:48 PM

lol...

DAMN YOU!!!

seriously though i'd rather have a mog then a deuce but that's just me.

I've wanted portal axles on a jeep since forever.

Stock driveline angled 6" lift & the pumpkin is out of the way YAYYAYA!

(someone made a mog/9" hybrid at one point)

4/20/2012 1:03:58 PM

^^^^^ the 5-ton is just a different, larger military truck. There are 7-tons, too. The deuce is popular becuase it's plentiful, dirt cheap, and a little less unwieldy than the larger ones.

^ everybody would rather have a 'Mog, and the price difference reflects that!

4/20/2012 4:54:55 PM

I would definitely leave the multifuel in there, given the apocalypse and gas prices and other talking points and whatnot

4/21/2012 3:37:25 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Avengers-Deuce-3-M35A2-Military-6x6-/190688286730?pt=Military_Vehicles&hash=item2c65e8580a

6/9/2012 4:56:41 AM