http://gawker.com/5935034/the-day-my-parents-and-i-found-out-my-boobs-were-on-the-internet?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

This story is a little silly but it brings up an interesting question: what happens when the internet tells your parents more than they should probably know about their kids? or vice versa

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"Anonymous We received an anonymous personal account this week from a woman who'd read about Reddit's "fusking" of private nude photographs that had been uploaded to PhotoBucket. The tipster had had a similar experience, only with a website we'd never heard of. PinkMeth.com (very NSFW), she wrote, had stolen nude photographs she'd never intended to be made public, and then—adding insult to a privacy breach she might never had known existed otherwise—linked to her Facebook profile so that her identity was matched to the embarrassment. Here's her story: One night about a month ago my mother called me, sounding distressed and mortified. "[We received] a very disturbing phone call," she told me. She proceeded to tell me a man, a complete stranger, had called and asked for me, after he'd seen my profile on a website called pinkmeth.com. There had been a snapshot of my Facebook profile page, featured prominently on this site. The man saw the town my parents were from and looked up their phone number online. He claimed he was acting as a "Good Samaritan" because his own girlfriend had lost her job after pinkmeth posted her naked photos and contact information online. He didn't want it to happen to anyone else. I nearly died on the other end of the phone. How embarrassing, my parents had seen naked photos of me online, and wanted to know where they came from. I assured them I didn't put them up at all, ended the uncomfortable conversation, and hung up the phone. I immediately started panicking and looked at my featured page on the site. Sure enough, there I was, naked as a jaybird for anyone to see. As if that wasn't bad enough, someone had kindly taken a snapshot of my facebook front page, included a link, and also attached a link to my Google+ profile. Even more annoying, the photos were from a private, password-protected photobucket account which I had created over five years ago and completely forgotten about. I had put the pictures up to share with my boyfriend. Whoops? I immediately deleted my photobucket account, changed my full name on facebook (by this point, I already had a half dozen friend requests from weird guys all around the world...) and deleted my Google+ profile. Thank GOD they didn't find my LinkedIn account. I emailed the site master asking him to take my content down. He replied, minutes later, "Nope!" I started commenting on my pinkmeth "page" to try and inform other visitors that I did not approve of this content being online. My comments were promptly deleted and my page remained up. I filed a DMCA complaint upon the suggestion of the man who called my parents, and sent a copy to the sitemaster. Nothing. Since then, I've done research. I'm not the only one who's upset about this website. There are many other women who have taken similar action with the webmaster and had the same results as I have. The site totally disgusts me. Not only did they steal MY photos, but they stole naked photos of me, and linked the photos to my personal information. I don't have a problem with an online presence, but being "presented" in this way makes me seem like I'm some type of easy, slutty woman—which I'm not. It calls negative attention to me. The photos were in an album I presumed to be private. I didn't intend on sharing them with the world, only with my boyfriend. It seemed easier than emailing them to him. And, since I don't frequently look at my photobucket (99 percent of my photos are on facebook), I completely forgot they were there until it was too late. I wish I had never put them online in the first place, but hindsight is 20/20. A friend of mine emailed me the Reddit article about fusking and I realized I wasn't alone. At least, on that site, they kept the girl's private information off. I wasn't so lucky. Pink Meth's site has a submission form that seems to allow for the same kinds of vindictive entries that made Hunter Moore's now defunct Is Anyone Up so notorious last year. With a few basic (and easily bullshitted) pieces of personal information, anyone is free to submit anyone else's photos. The form also requires an example of "Internet Presence," though it's unclear whether or not it has to be connected to the submitter himself. There's also a key box to check at the end: "Person whose entry I'm submitting to Pinkmeth.com was at least 18 years old at the time when the content was produced." It's almost an afterthought. We've emailed whoever's behind Pink Meth to see how they screen their submissions, but judging from our tipster's story, they simply don't. If you have similar stories, let us know."

anyone with similar troubles?

have you found a significant other's boobs online?

more importantly, have you found your mom's boobs online??

please tell.

8/17/2012 1:41:32 PM

Such are the consequences of a connected world.

8/17/2012 1:45:00 PM

like Joie (only asking bc you are the only person to fdt openly)



has any of your family members accidentally found your pics?

8/17/2012 1:47:00 PM

Anderson Cooper did a story on one of those websites that links nude photos to FB profiles. The owner of the site took a real beating. Just like the owner of the STD submission site took a beating.

My family knows my boobs are online. No one is surprised.

8/17/2012 2:03:49 PM

The question you're asking is not interesting.

I mean, if your parents see your nudie pics, you get over it. If you see theirs, you get over it. Some folks probably wouldn't even care. If one party is particularly conservative or didn't think of the nude person as interested in sex, I imagine it would be harder for all parties to get over it, but come on, it's your family...what's a little nudity between relatives?

8/17/2012 2:04:33 PM

I dont think it would be a big deal to my parents, it would probably be a bigger deal to other, more conservative family relations.

8/17/2012 2:04:48 PM

^^true, all I know is it would be really fucking awkward in my family.


and Joie was my default, but there are others

8/17/2012 2:05:50 PM

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"Anderson Cooper did a story on one of those websites that links nude photos to FB profiles. The owner of the site took a real beating. Just like the owner of the STD submission site took a beating. "

as im sure their servers took a beating after the interviews too

bad press is still.... press.

8/17/2012 2:07:32 PM

this thread won't be funny until it's long enough that nobody reads the OP.

8/17/2012 2:10:51 PM

Quote :

"The photos were in an album I presumed to be private. I didn't intend on sharing them with the world, only with my boyfriend. It seemed easier than emailing them to him. And, since I don't frequently look at my photobucket (99 percent of my photos are on facebook), I completely forgot they were there until it was too late. I wish I had never put them online in the first place, but hindsight is 20/20."

Every. single. time.

They talk about the horror of what happened and don't actually tell where they messed up. It could have been changing the privacy settings for the entire account later on, forgetting about the nude album. It could have been setting up dumb security questions (doubtful). It could have been using one of these passwords:

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=620643

If there was nothing more to the story, the Photobucket itself is liable for whatever damages she can prove. I imagine these could be substantial.

Owning breasts isn't some kind of free pass to not care about privacy of the content you create. I could post pictures of my penis next to my LinkedIn profile and have similar consequences to my career. Worse, men are targeted by our legal system with sexual predatory statues, even when the action had nothing to do with it, like just flashing one's self around in public. We are disturbingly close to the point where a random naked picture is sufficient justification for authorities to demote you to a second class citizen.

We should (and do, depending on the location) have protections against using those against an employee. Professor Flick is still a respected faculty member, and that's the way it should be, it should never even be a question.

The article is deceptive in nature, and this reflects poorly on the integrity of the author. It never tells how the pics got released. If she validly doesn't know how they made it out there she should have said so, and noted that she was exploring her legal options against Photobucket. It's obviously not mentioning something.

8/17/2012 2:12:12 PM

why, again, would the girl in the OP be hosting nude pics for a bf....?

when those files could have been texted, emailed, god forbid put them on a thumb drive and physically transfer the files

8/17/2012 2:13:14 PM

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 2:15 PM. Reason : nevermind]

8/17/2012 2:15:13 PM

several people ITT have seen my cock pics. I wouldn't say they were "online" though

8/17/2012 2:15:27 PM

There's nothing wrong with using Photobucket to share those pictures. She did something stupid and won't tell us what.

8/17/2012 2:16:14 PM

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"Professor Flick is still a respected faculty member, and that's the way it should be, it should never even be a question."

You just answered the question that I was about to ask.

I think that the key is to just not give a shit. It's your body. If you're taking revealing photographs of your body, I would hope that you're comfortable in your skin. It's embarrassing when someone who the photos were not intended for see the pictures, especially if they're harsh or creepy with their reaction to it. But it's only going to be as big of a deal as you, the person in the photograph, make it. BUT I can see how a person might be upset about photos from a private account (innocent or not) being made public.

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : oh holy grammar bomb]

8/17/2012 2:16:33 PM

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"BUT I can see how a person might be upset about photos from a private account (innocent or not) being made public."

Validly curious: do you have an example of this happening?

Generally, the only way is that the people you trusted leak them. There are entire websites dedicated to this purpose. Obviously that's a trust problem, not a technology/internet problem.

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 2:21 PM. Reason : ok, so maybe it's an enabler, like Wikileaks is]

8/17/2012 2:19:57 PM

I don't have any specific examples.

But I think that it is an issue that we're currently confronting and will continue to evolve. I do believe that "enabler sites" (good word choice) are predatory in nature and ethically ambiguous. I do not believe that these sites are there for anything other than pure profit. It has nothing to do with freedom of information etc. But this is a problem that is going to grow and we're going to have to figure out how it should be handled and who is responsible.

I've already heard of problems with parents and photos of their children. Not everyone wants their child's photograph online, but if your child attends a party or an extended family member takes a photo and decides to put it up on Facebook what can you do? Is it the site's responsibility to take it down or the poster? What if the person posting the photograph refuses to take it down? What steps do you take and what is considered reasonable?

8/17/2012 2:34:09 PM

^^ have you never heard of fusking? People were using loopholes in the security settings of sites like Photobucket to access files that were supposedly password protected and private. She wouldn't necessarily have to do anything majorly wrong for her files to get retrieved I don't believe.

8/17/2012 2:45:14 PM

The ethos of these sites is that they're trying to be evil. The site user base (at least, likely the owners as well) are spending free time with the purpose of making life miserable for someone else. It has a dash of anit-women sentiment, which is perfectly abundant on the internet.

A funny thing is, if these sites were actually using blackmail, they could be shut down in a heartbeat. They can stay up because they don't listen to the desperate take-down requests, and in fact, revel in the pleasure of it. Attacking them directly is completely futile. In a sense, it gives them more pleasure in the activity because the victim shows they're upset about it. I would bet you that these sites would do even better if they posted the pleading, desperate, and unfruitful requests to take it down. How does a bully always respond?

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"Not everyone wants their child's photograph online, but if your child attends a party or an extended family member takes a photo and decides to put it up on Facebook what can you do?"

This is a interesting. Young children are in a completely different situation than the rest of us. At least for them, when they grow up, Facebook will probably be dead or confined to the old-person culture. If you compare us to a 3-year old, Facebook is our land. Do you think the future preteens are going to enjoy using their parents favorite site? It will be passe like vinyl records. It will likely be replaced with something as-of-yet beyond our wildest imagination. We can't even presume to understand what a picture means to them, just like the meaning of a picture is different today than in the 90s.

We have to accept that existence is inseparable from appearance in pictures. I strongly agree with the freedom from paranoia laws. Your very existence in public is liable to appear online, at all times. That is the future reality so we might as well get used to it. Sharing pictures is too valuable of a tool for democracy to do otherwise.

8/17/2012 2:51:25 PM

Quote :

"have you never heard of fusking? People were using loopholes in the security settings of sites like Photobucket to access files that were supposedly password protected and private."

Your second sentence isn't the same as fusking. Run-of-the-mill Fusking was what happened (or what was claimed to have happened, as this is officially disputed) with Prof. Flick. I'm not even talking about automated fusking in that case.

The issue you cite with Photobucket is very specific, and here's what Wikipedia leads to:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/the-dark-art-of-fusking

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"Photobucket handles privacy levels differently than other photo sharing services like Flickr or Facebook. Instead of setting a privacy level at the individual photo, you set the privacy level ("Everyone," "Private," or "Password-protected") at the album level. If you select Private or Password-protected for an album, the photos won’t show up in search, and someone browsing your profile wouldn't be able to find them. However, each photo is still accessible via a direct link to its url."

http://gawker.com/5932702/

I guess that could be what happened in this case... which would squarely place the blame on Photobucket.

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM. Reason : ]

8/17/2012 3:00:24 PM

Still haven't seen tits ITT

8/17/2012 3:35:10 PM

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"mrfrog: We should (and do, depending on the location) have protections against using those against an employee."

What about the possible employee? Should your nudie pics or whatever nonsense posted about you be taken into account at job interviews?

HR folks can be awful picky. And it's not like all of these women are highly trained, certified, PhD whatevers either...in the absence of some special expertise, it seems like some of them would never get picked for a competitive job offering if Google searches were performed. There are other ways to get a job, but still, if you Google some of these people's names, it's the first or second thing that pops up: BAM nudie pics, relationship drama about how you're a cheating whore and you were mean to animals, and screencaps of you acting a fool begging for the pictures to be taken down and getting all scorned and stuff...

8/17/2012 4:01:10 PM

She is someones daughter.

8/17/2012 4:16:27 PM

If you put it on the internet it is no longer private.

8/17/2012 4:17:13 PM

http://pinkmeth.com/i/44ukHTccGC.jpg

8/17/2012 5:19:54 PM

Quote :

" it's your family...what's a little nudity between relatives?"

I think the point is its not just nudity between relatives. It's that the relatives know your nudity is shared with the world now.

8/17/2012 5:20:34 PM

Yes, I hear that, and I don't want to suggest that's not mortifying or challenging.

But in terms of the stuff that people go through together, this just isn't that high on the list of horrible things for a family.

8/17/2012 5:49:45 PM

Horrible things for a family? No. But it can have very serious, damaging effects on one's employment and education opportunities. And I for one think it's rather unfortunate that something like this (someone posting supposedly private photos on a site that has, unbeknownst to the poster, screwy security settings) could cause the individual to be denied opportunities to advance in her career and her life.

8/17/2012 6:38:31 PM

I don't understand the practice of sharing nude pics with your significant other.

8/17/2012 6:53:08 PM

Because you're insecure about them looking at porn to jack off.

8/17/2012 8:35:58 PM

Someone should ask Will Quick how his sister handled it.

8/17/2012 8:39:45 PM

Quote :

"Still haven't seen tits ITT"

8/17/2012 8:52:17 PM

The Day My Parents Found Out My Boobs Were Online probably coincides with

8/17/2012 8:55:13 PM

8/17/2012 9:02:04 PM

shite

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 9:15 PM. Reason : muslim]

8/17/2012 9:15:38 PM

oh shit who was that nasty ass chick on TWW who had nudes and claimed to strip at that joint in cary.


she deserves having her shit on a site like that linked to her facebook and all that. she was a cunt.

8/17/2012 9:19:53 PM

richthofen, I agree. In fact, I've already expressed concern about how this situation can affect potential employment.

My comment about "horrible things" in a family is in response to nacstate (the poster above me who quoted me) and to the original prompt about what happens when your parents or kids see your nudes.

8/17/2012 9:48:20 PM

i would like to thank this thread for introducing me to http://pinkmeth.com

8/17/2012 10:11:33 PM

It was neither pink, nor methed.

8/17/2012 10:25:57 PM

[Edited on February 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

8/17/2012 10:28:57 PM

site needs a search function

8/18/2012 10:43:45 AM

Quote :

"have you found a significant other's boobs online?"

Kind of

8/18/2012 10:49:25 AM

this is instantly one of my favorite new sites. Thanks, Klaty!

8/18/2012 11:05:56 AM

Well, so much for going outside and doing yardwork. I am officially sidetracked with this new find.

8/18/2012 11:18:07 AM

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"site needs a search function"

It has one

8/18/2012 11:22:39 AM

http://www.pinkmeth.com/advanced-search/

Pretty sure this is the girl in the gawker article. Comments reference photobucket and stuff.

http://pinkmeth.com/us/tx/palm-valley/anne-dulian/

[Edited on August 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM. Reason : P]

8/18/2012 11:25:51 AM

Quote :

"HR folks can be awful picky. And it's not like all of these women are highly trained, certified, PhD whatevers either...in the absence of some special expertise, it seems like some of them would never get picked for a competitive job offering if Google searches were performed. There are other ways to get a job, but still, if you Google some of these people's names, it's the first or second thing that pops up: BAM nudie pics, relationship drama about how you're a cheating whore and you were mean to animals, and screencaps of you acting a fool begging for the pictures to be taken down and getting all scorned and stuff..."

So if it's this serious then you need to be a lawyer about it. What in here is illegal? The article mentions using DMCA take-down requests. We already know how effective those have been in other places.

If Google is the problem, is Google even a thing that stuff can be removed from? How many requests are made (and filled) to remove stuff from Google?

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/

Apparently 5.1 million. But if I understand, those are protecting copyright. Dare I say it... use on PinkMeth might be... fair use? They may be depriving the person of income, but not income from the picture, so it wouldn't fall into protections for ownership of the picture.

At the end of it all, maybe you could attack the HR firm? You could team up with PinkMeth and entrap them. Show their IP looked at your pictures right after you applied and then denied you the interview.

If the situation you describe is unacceptable, then you are implying that someone must change their behavior, and we might have to force that party to change their behavior. So who? The answer is probably very unsavory.

[Edited on August 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM. Reason : ]

8/18/2012 11:44:33 AM

Quote :

"oh shit who was that nasty ass chick on TWW who had nudes and claimed to strip at that joint in cary. she deserves having her shit on a site like that linked to her facebook and all that. she was a cunt."

u2nmore & NCSt8Babe??

8/18/2012 11:51:01 AM

Sarose?

8/18/2012 11:59:38 AM

^ yeah, I think it was Sarose that said she worked at Pure Gold

Pics on this page for verification:

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=234055&page=6

[Edited on August 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM. Reason : a]

8/18/2012 12:01:01 PM