Ambassador to Libya





wiki snippet on his assasination

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" Initial reports were that a group of violent Libyan protesters attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Some of the attackers were reportedly enraged over the film Innocence of Muslims, which the attackers believed to have insulted the Islamic Prophet Muhammad. However, with the attack on the consulate coming on the anniversary of the September 11th Attacks, there has been concern as to whether it too was a motive for the attacks. U.S. officials are currently investigating. A rocket propelled grenade attack reportedly created a fire in the consulate building. Stevens then became separated from his staff while trying to escape to the roof and was ultimately overcome by smoke inhalation. Two other Americans who were sent to the area when the disturbance began also died, along with Sean Smith, who was employed as an information management officer. Reports differ about the identity of the other two Americans, with some sources reporting that they were U.S. Marines, but others citing off-the-record Marine Corps sources as saying that they were not. A further report by Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org (remaining unconfirmed by additional news agencies) suggested that Stevens was raped prior to his death from smoke inhalation. The British think-tank Quilliam has argued that the attackers in Libya were too heavily armed and organized to be merely angry protesters, suggesting that the American fatalities in Benghazi were the result of a pre-planned revenge attack by al-Qaeda for the killing of Abu Yahya al-Libi three months prior and the protest outside the consulate was just a diversion."

9/13/2012 12:58:01 PM

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"A further report by Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org (remaining unconfirmed by additional news agencies) suggested that Stevens was raped prior to his death from smoke inhalation."

wtf

9/13/2012 1:04:16 PM

yea, at least this came from the #1 speculative source in America. And another reason I did NOT post this in chit chat. poor guy

9/13/2012 1:17:15 PM

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/libya-diplomats-warning/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-us-ambassador-killed-profile/index.html
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/12/six-things-to-know-about-attack-that-killed-ambassador-stevens
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/14/opinion/drotar-chris-stevens/index.html
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/14/in-attack-aftermath-disagreement-over-how-it-began

it is really sad, and being a mulsim (albeit, nominally), it really saddens and angers me what the protesters are doing around the world.

the libyan attack involved machine guns and RPGs though, so it was not just common people from the street, but armed extremists/terrorists who took advantage of the situation.

aside from the specific links above about the libyan attack and the profile of the slain ambassador, here is a good read:

Arab Spring nations don't yet grasp freedom of dissent
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/14/opinion/husain-arab-spring-democracy/index.html

i know the arab/muslim mind and psyche pretty well, and let me tell you, it ain't pretty. downright dangerous for a majority of the population.

9/17/2012 5:39:09 AM

As I've said several times, these protests (over a very low-budget movie made by an ex-con Egyptian-American Coptic Christian) are ridiculuos and deserve ridicule. Although I'm pretty sure it's just a convenient excuse.

Lebanon's Hezbollah leader call for protest. http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/world/story/11555526/

9/17/2012 10:59:30 AM

I don't think this has anything to do with an "Arab/Muslim" mentality, given the hundreds of millions of Muslims worldwide (Including in Europe and America, and a few I know personally and see daily) who are doing absolutely no protesting at all, and "Arab" is an ethnicity. I think Islam serves as a bit of a rallying call, as is the West as an ambiguously-adversarial force in their lives, and groupthink takes over from there. Food prices in the region are also at all-time highs, and the protests themselves correlate oddly well with those food prices.

I think what's really going on here is clear: People in the Middle East are hungry, poor, and battered. This is partly because of decades of the West negatively impacting them in one way or another, partly because of the failures of their own governments, and partly because of the simple material conditions of the lands they inhabit. Former invaders/underminers usually have dealt long-term damage to their economy and/or social order. Nearly every country that is seeing large protests is one that has seen US/NATO/Western interference, subversion, or simple manslaughter in their country in the last generation or two.

They, like most poor shlocks, become engrossed with religious and nationalistic fervor, because both of these are comforting to them and put them into a larger commiserative group. They blame (sometimes accurately, sometimes not) their problems on historical enemies who make for perennial scapegoats, and try to declare their own group to be uniquely exceptional or special on the world stage with unique roles applying to them. If this sounds at all familiar it's because this describes the American South for a long time after the Civil War (Including the present to a degree).


[Edited on September 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2012 12:27:12 PM

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/09/does-not-represent-us-moving-photos-pro-american-rallies-libya/56803/

A lot of the comments are from both sides.

9/18/2012 5:31:00 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/world/africa/libya-benghazi-counter-protest/index.html

Awesome.

9/21/2012 6:51:24 PM

^ goddamn!

i have never had a bigger smile on my face from reading a news article!

9/21/2012 7:09:48 PM