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TerdFerguson
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for the upcoming election

California's Proposition 37:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/prop-37-california-gmo-food_n_1945106.html

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"If voters approve the initiative, California would become the first state to require disclosure of a broad range of foods containing genetically modified organisms, or GMOs. Food makers would have to add a label or reformulate their products to avoid it. Supermarkets would be charged with making sure their shelves are stocked with correctly labeled items."


I personally support the labeling of GMO foods and would probably vote yes

10/10/2012 5:40:18 PM

dtownral
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I would definitely vote yes, absolutely

10/10/2012 5:45:49 PM

lewisje
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If this means that GMO food remains available but becomes cheaper than non-GMO food, much as non-organic food is cheaper than organic, I support this too: Let agribusiness soak the numbskulls who think GMO food is somehow unsafe.

Anyway in my own home state, Issue 1 is about a constitutional convention; the question has been asked every two decades since 1932, as the Ohio Constitution requires, and has failed every time, but I intend to vote for it.

10/10/2012 5:54:16 PM

TerdFerguson
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Colorado Amendment 64: regulates Marijuana like Alcohol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Amendment_64_(2012)



Oregon Measure 80: Allows growing Marijuana for personal use and forming a commision for the regulation of commercial growing
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Oregon_Cannabis_Tax_Act_Initiative,_Measure_80_(2012)


Washington Initiative 502: legalize limited possession by people over 21
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Initiative_502



These ain't your grandmama's Medical MJ laws!!!

10/10/2012 6:16:40 PM

Supplanter
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Not particularly intriguing or original, but several states are having marriage votes this November. A win in Minnesota means stopping an amendment 1 type marriage discrimination amendment. A win in any of the other 3 states means a new state now has marriage equality. I doubt we win them all, but if we can win in any of those 3 that's still gaining ground at least.

10/10/2012 7:05:21 PM

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"If this means that GMO food remains available but becomes cheaper than non-GMO food, much as non-organic food is cheaper than organic, I support this too: Let agribusiness soak the numbskulls who think GMO food is somehow unsafe."


This. People who think GMO is unsafe are fucking retarded. They are the climate change deniers of the left. There is literally zero science that says that genetically modified vegetables are in any way unsafe.

10/10/2012 7:19:05 PM

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Maryland Question 7: Should we build a big fucking casino in National Harbor?

Yes!

10/10/2012 7:58:11 PM

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How about people who think GMO kills small farmers or don't want herbicide resistant weeds? Health is not the only reason you might want to be notified if a food contains GMO.

10/10/2012 8:38:05 PM

lewisje
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"GMO kills small farmers"
sad but true

we need patent reform bad y0

10/10/2012 9:31:48 PM

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^^^ Please vote Question 7 yes. That may be the only option left to keep the National Harbor viable.

Virginia has an amendment vote to prevent the use of eminent domain for "private gain" (response to Kelo vs. New London). I agree with this one.

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"Shall Section 11 of Article I (Bill of Rights) of the Constitution of Virginia be amended (i) to require that eminent domain only be exercised where the property taken or damaged is for public use and, except for utilities or the elimination of a public nuisance, not where the primary use is for private gain, private benefit, private enterprise, increasing jobs, increasing tax revenue, or economic development; (ii) to define what is included in just compensation for such taking or damaging of property; and (iii) to prohibit the taking or damaging of more private property than is necessary for the public use?"

10/11/2012 12:51:53 AM

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Ya, GMO's are much scarier for their ecological effects. The health concerns are just borderline superstition, like the people who are likewise afraid of food containing "CHEMICALS"

I'm pro-just about any labeling law. Anything towards information symmetry between producer and consumer.

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 1:52:01 PM

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10/11/2012 2:46:27 PM

Shaggy
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"How about people who think GMO kills small farmers or don't want herbicide resistant weeds? Health is not the only reason you might want to be notified if a food contains GMO."

how about labels on all foreign goods that say "this product stole are jerbs!". same thing.

10/12/2012 10:03:24 AM

Shaggy
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its hilarious because the people behind that shit have absolutely nothing wrong with their lives so they've gotta make up problems. they probably all own tons of electronics made by chinese kids but dont give a fuck about that.

referrendum systems should be universally abolished because they only ever fuck shit up.

10/12/2012 10:06:06 AM

TerdFerguson
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Referendums aren't perfect, I can easily admit that, especially when you consider that plenty of voters are barely literate.

But they only ever fuck shit up? Look at the issues ITT, most are cutting edge political topics that are politically untouchable by a lot of lawmakers and yet poll relatively well in their respective states. It's about as "direct" as our democracy gets and allows us to bypass our stodgy, slow political system.


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"Virginia has an amendment vote to prevent the use of eminent domain for "private gain" (response to Kelo vs. New London). I agree with this one.
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This is actually a really interesting one. Pretty sure I would vote for it and it kinda makes you wonder why domain laws aren't already structured like this.

10/12/2012 12:27:29 PM

Shaggy
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the maine legislature had already legalized gay marriage, and then a referrendum killed it.
nc just killed gay marriage with a referrendum.
gay marriage has been shot down in other referrendums
etc...

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"It's about as "direct" as our democracy gets and allows us to bypass our stodgy, slow political system."


direct democracy is awful. theres a reason we're a representative republic. the people are too fucking stupid to be allowed direct input on the process.


[Edited on October 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM. Reason : a]

10/12/2012 3:35:00 PM

Shaggy
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Even bonding issues can be problematic when things like old people blocking education bonds happen.

direct democracy is a bad idea.

10/12/2012 3:47:10 PM

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"the people are too fucking stupid to be allowed direct input on the process."


hell, they're too stupid to elect representatives

10/14/2012 7:20:56 PM

Shaggy
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yeah. democracy is pretty much a failure.

10/15/2012 10:04:01 AM

RedGuard
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"This is actually a really interesting one. Pretty sure I would vote for it and it kinda makes you wonder why domain laws aren't already structured like this."


I think after the Kelo ruling, almost all but a small handful of states (~44/50) have passed some form of tightening of eminent domain regulations.

10/15/2012 3:36:16 PM

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