vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
You are publicly admitting to a crime. 11/3/2012 3:20:04 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
depends on the state IMO 11/3/2012 4:21:12 PM
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Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
people instagram themselves doing illegal shit all the time. 11/3/2012 4:31:23 PM
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shanedidona All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
what crime? 11/3/2012 6:11:44 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
In North Carolina it's illegal to record anything inside of a polling place and it's illegal to post images of marked ballots (even your own)
[Edited on November 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ] 11/3/2012 6:48:24 PM
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shanedidona All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
oh ok 11/3/2012 8:02:25 PM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
you can publicly suck my dick and take your law and stick it up your ass 11/3/2012 8:05:46 PM
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tchenku midshipman 18598 Posts user info edit post |
it's also illegal to do it IDB 11/3/2012 8:52:56 PM
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LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
It should be illegal to instagram period. Just like twitter, people think every little thing they do is so fucking important to everyone else. 11/3/2012 10:01:47 PM
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dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Its all about social validation. Everyone is fb friends with that girl who takes a self portrait of themselves everyday to fish for likes 11/3/2012 10:25:33 PM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
twitter: If you see something, say something. 11/3/2012 10:58:40 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
It turns out that it's probably illegal in Ohio too: http://www.citmedialaw.org/state-law-documenting-vote-2012#Ohio
General tips on documenting the vote are here: http://www.citmedialaw.org/documenting-vote-2012 11/4/2012 12:03:40 AM
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oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
its also illegal to rig voting machines which I have successfully done, I hope all you Romney supporters enjoy your votes turning into Obama votes... all your votes R BELONG 2 US 11/4/2012 12:07:24 AM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
It would be a good counterbalance to what has actually been done: http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/breaking-retired-nsa-analyst-proves-gop-is-stealing-elections/article20598.html 11/4/2012 12:49:54 AM
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DjGohan All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck a cameraphone 11/4/2012 2:07:42 AM
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MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You are publicly admitting to a crime." |
Unless it was a picture of your sample ballot that is available on the State Board of Election's website. https://www.ncsbe.gov/voterlookup.aspx 11/4/2012 9:38:33 AM
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moron All American 34472 Posts user info edit post |
What's the rationale behind blocking pics of your own ballot? 11/4/2012 11:19:08 AM
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SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
^ To prevent a modern form of carousel voting would be my guess. 11/4/2012 11:26:42 AM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
I had to look this up, and the practice has been used as recently as the previous decade, but in (post-)Soviet Russia: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Carousel_voting 11/4/2012 2:25:33 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
theres no need for photo IDs though, i mean they might be inconvenient for some people to get 11/4/2012 2:27:07 PM
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sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
this could be the greatest election ever... all the hipster voters get arrested ! 11/4/2012 2:28:04 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^^how about definitely are 11/4/2012 2:41:50 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
for who? 11/4/2012 2:46:46 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
poor people, dumbass 11/4/2012 2:48:33 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
do any of those poor people collect welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc?
cause photo IDs are required for all those things 11/4/2012 2:52:04 PM
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moron All American 34472 Posts user info edit post |
Photo ID laws probably could have been passed if republican law makers hadnt been caught saying how it'll help them win, then further writing the laws in a way clearly designed to disenfranchise certain demographics. 11/4/2012 3:32:39 PM
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NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
i personally think it's a little strange that anyone who knows my name and address (public information) can go and cast my vote. 11/4/2012 3:36:56 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Putting a camera in every voting location would be one way to detect in-person voter fraud without disenfranchising those who have a difficult time obtaining an approved photo ID. 11/4/2012 4:19:22 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
seems like requiring a photo ID would be easier than monitoring tens of millions of people on tens of thousands of cameras 11/4/2012 4:21:56 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
It's not as effective. Anyone can fake an ID. Isn't the idea here to prevent fraud at whatever cost? 11/4/2012 4:25:31 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
anyone can fake an ID with a barcode on the back that scans into a DMV/government database? we're not talking about 19 year olds with facial hair trying to buy a 12-pack
or would you require everyone who enters a voting location to directly face the camera so they can use facial recognition software to verify tens of millions of people then cross-reference them? 11/4/2012 4:29:33 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
What this country needs are national ID cards and #s for every individual. 11/4/2012 4:32:20 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Ah so now we are setting up barcode scanners that link to "government databases" at every location? How is that cheaper than a camera? 11/4/2012 4:32:30 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
a cop can scan the back of your drivers license and pull up all your information from a "government database" i'm sure government issued IDs have the same type barcodes
but i guess you'd rather rely on old men security guards to monitor cameras watching thousands of people walking past cameras at angles that dont always show their faces clearly 11/4/2012 4:35:57 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
And what happens if the connection goes down? I guess the election is canceled.
No one has to monitor the cameras real-time. Record the images in case there is an issue so we can go back and identify violators. Plus it acts as a deterrent. 11/4/2012 4:40:07 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
so we're able to identify 150,000,000 people by camera footage?
why not just get a free government issued ID?
you need a photo ID to receive free healthcare, welfare, social security, food stamps, medicare, unemployment benefits, get a job, etc, whats the big deal about getting an ID to vote?] 11/4/2012 4:43:12 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
Elections are a joke. We need kings and queens. Lords and ladies. Absolute power. 11/4/2012 4:44:08 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
What's the big deal about the government putting cameras in every polling location? This is obviously a serious problem that must be stopped. I don't see why you are so opposed to stopping voter fraud. 11/4/2012 4:46:36 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
i don't have a problem with cameras in every single voting location, i just don't know how effective they'd be, especially compared to something as simple as free ID cards
you'd pretty much need to take a picture of everyone who entered, and i mean a clear frontal picture of their face, and then keep track of over a hundred million people's pictures, probably using facial recognition software
using a photo ID that costs you no money seems much, much easier
i really dont get all the opposition to this, considering you already need a photo ID for so many other basic things in society 11/4/2012 4:51:24 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Some people can't get photo ID very easily. Maybe someone mugged them the day before the election and took it. Or maybe they are lazy and just dont feel like getting one. That shouldn't take away their right to vote. And it doesn't have to when there are other ways to prevent fraud. 11/4/2012 4:54:58 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
lol 11/4/2012 4:56:21 PM
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HaLo All American 14324 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think anyone is arguing that photo id for voting is a bad idea. The republican plans to implement it were intended to disenfranchise citizens though in their application and timelines.
[Edited on November 4, 2012 at 4:58 PM. Reason : And now someone has taken the very position I supposed didn't exist, and using a terrible example to] 11/4/2012 4:57:31 PM
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mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |

A Ron Paul supporter's wet dream.
11/4/2012 4:58:57 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
There would be no need for ID cards if everyone just mesmerized their National Identification #
[Edited on November 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM. Reason : ] 11/4/2012 5:27:31 PM
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seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ttM3EEIAOo 11/4/2012 5:42:00 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
Lol I said mesmerized up there. Woops 11/4/2012 6:03:53 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ wouldn't an inflection point be a sign of fraud? Where is the fraud in that chart? 11/4/2012 6:04:59 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^ The decline in Paul votes matches the increase in Romney votes, suggesting the machine changed Paul ballots to Romney ballots. 11/5/2012 9:54:56 AM
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SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I had to look this up, and the practice has been used as recently as the previous decade, but in (post-)Soviet Russia" |
It's actually a pretty common way of committing voter fraud and relatively easy to implement. And it happens in elections all over the world.
Interestingly, I personally witnessed it on a number of occassions in the previous decade in post-soviet countries.
Quote : | "Putting a camera in every voting location would be one way to detect in-person voter fraud without disenfranchising those who have a difficult time obtaining an approved photo ID." |
Photographing voters in a polling station could raise serious ballot secrecy issues which could lead to increased voter intimidation. It would be fairly easy (at least in some places) for a determined poll worker to review camera footage and be able to sync ballots with individual voters 11/5/2012 10:04:22 AM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
I support a photo ID requirement at the polls... as soon as the DMV stops charging for Licenses and ID cards.  11/5/2012 10:16:09 AM
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