Nighthawk All American 19640 Posts user info edit post |

Goodnight, sweet prince.
11/16/2012 8:47:10 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |

Goodnight, sweet prince.]
11/16/2012 8:50:33 AM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
dmidkiff is going to be pissed
I'm krallum and I approved this message. 11/16/2012 8:51:39 AM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
When I heard this on the radio this morning, I thought to myself, "I wonder who on TWW will make a RIP thread."  11/16/2012 9:26:34 AM
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JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |

11/16/2012 9:30:40 AM
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Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35780 Posts user info edit post |

Goodnight, sweet princess!
11/16/2012 9:35:06 AM
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JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
GG union... 18,000 jobs down the drain just because you wanted job security and not loose a bit of pay... 11/16/2012 9:50:52 AM
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RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
I just watched the WRAL article on it. The employees said that between forgoing their pension, paying a higher premium on health insurance, and an 8% wage cut, that they would be losing 30% of their total monetary benefits and they would be better off on unemployment.
If that's the case more power to them. Although I don't think they realize how much COBRA costs shit ain't cheap 11/16/2012 10:08:37 AM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
you watched an article?
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 11/16/2012 10:09:24 AM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
There were plans to close 8 of the factories at the end of the year anyways.
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 10:14 AM. Reason : also...lol ^] 11/16/2012 10:14:47 AM
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jbtilley All American 12801 Posts user info edit post |
If that's the case then the unemployment benefit is too high.
A 30% cut in benefits? Sounds like Hostess is just doing what the rest of the labor market already did years ago. Who still offers pensions? 11/16/2012 10:17:35 AM
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JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
But the thing is that Hostess were already in a Bankruptcy since January... The Teamster Union agreed to the change, but not the Baker's Union...
Quote : | "There were plans to close 8 of the factories at the end of the year anyways." |
Now all of them will be closing. They honestly should have slimmed down way faster, even after their restructuring from their 2004 bankruptcy, which took almost 5 years to do. 11/16/2012 10:26:28 AM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
They have filed for Chapter 11 the past 3 years 11/16/2012 10:42:27 AM
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seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who still offers pensions?" |
Bayer, and the State of NC
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM. Reason : /] 11/16/2012 10:46:53 AM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
It couldn't be the economic policy in this country causing all these 100 year old companies to go bankrupt... couldnt be 11/16/2012 10:49:07 AM
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Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^ A total of 11 Fortune 500 companies.] 11/16/2012 10:50:04 AM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
it couldn't be people buying less of their shitty products....couldn't be 11/16/2012 10:50:07 AM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Diva, that made you look like an idiot. 11/16/2012 10:51:12 AM
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Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Bwahahaha.
Pot meet kettle. 11/16/2012 10:51:44 AM
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quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It couldn't be the economic policy in this country causing all these 100 year old companies to go bankrupt... couldnt be" |
just when i think you can't say something any dumber, you do 11/16/2012 10:52:09 AM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
^^^wait...wut?
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM. Reason : e] 11/16/2012 10:52:24 AM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Define dumb.
Because the truth can be dumb sometimes. 11/16/2012 10:53:16 AM
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JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They have filed for Chapter 11 the past 3 years" |
wat?
No they haven't... They filed one in 2004 and one in January of this year. Both times were a result from too high debt mostly from labor costs; although 2004 had higher ingredient costs as well. 11/16/2012 11:14:46 AM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
my apologies!
I read the article wrong...it was 3 years ago when they came back from filing the first time
continue...
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 11:44 AM. Reason : wrod] 11/16/2012 11:42:17 AM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Do you work for hostess or something?
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 11/16/2012 11:43:27 AM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
nah...I'm still employed today 11/16/2012 11:44:21 AM
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MinkaGrl01
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I dont think I've ever bought or have eaten a twinkie... just one of those things that look really gross to me  11/16/2012 11:46:18 AM
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pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.americastestkitchenfeed.com/recipe-bootcamp/2011/07/shaping-up-hostess-cupcakes/ 11/16/2012 12:37:26 PM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Wal-Mart Workers' Black Friday Strike
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wal-mart-workers-black-friday-110048819.html
Target, employee at odds over Black Friday
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2011/11/16/Target-employee-at-odds-over-Black-Friday/UPI-22901321476541/
Those damn unions destroying businesses e'erwhere! ] 11/16/2012 2:03:46 PM
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quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ neither walmart nor target employees are part of a specific store employees' union 11/16/2012 2:08:26 PM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
no shit Shurlock 11/16/2012 2:09:14 PM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Some reposts from reddit that I enjoyed:
http://www.kpax.com/news/hostess-announces-possible-liquidation-including-billings-plant/
Quote : | "Eusebio Diaz, business agent for Local 466, said this strike is not a negotiation process: "What we want to do is we want to shut the company down and force them to liquidate so somebody will come buy a plant and we have a future. Somebody that has some money and knows how to run a company."" |
http://www.ibj.com/hostess-plant-closings-so-far-spare-indy-columbus/PARAMS/article/37864
Quote : | "“Some employees are apparently under the misimpression that if they force Hostess to liquidate, another company will buy our bakeries and offer them employment," Rayburn said in his statement.
The industry has “far too much capacity,” Rayburn said. “I believe the leadership of the bakers union knows this fact, but is willing to sacrifice its Hostess employees for the sake of preventing other bakery companies from asking for similar concessions.”" |
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quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^^ so what was the purpose of the pissfest that is your post? 11/16/2012 2:11:43 PM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
I worked for a unionized company once. All we ever did was try to convince them to let us work 10 hour shifts
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 11/16/2012 2:12:58 PM
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DamnStraight All American 16665 Posts user info edit post |
I lol'd at someone on facebook blaming Obama for this. 11/16/2012 2:15:05 PM
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jsdail All American 3260 Posts user info edit post |
stocking up on these bad boys & holding on to them for a year - then sell on eBay = profit !  11/16/2012 3:05:49 PM
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GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I dont think I've ever bought or have eaten a twinkie..." |
and
Quote : | "holding on to them for a year - then sell on eBay" |
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
  
Consumers respond ]
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LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |

11/16/2012 3:36:03 PM
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GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
^^I had class with the guy in that 3rd picture 11/16/2012 3:37:49 PM
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Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
I guess that's an end to the Twinkie Defense. 11/16/2012 6:22:40 PM
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NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
i'm sure they'll sell off the rights to the name and the super secret recipe 11/16/2012 6:23:52 PM
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pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Pabst Owner Metropoulos Considers Bid for Hostess Brands
Source: Bloomberg
C. Dean Metropoulos & Co., the private equity firm that owns Pabst Brewing Co., is considering an offer to buy Hostess Brands Inc., which said today it plans to liquidate its business. “Our family would love to purchase these iconic brands,” said Daren Metropoulos, a principal at the Greenwich, Connecticut-based firm, which paid $250 million for Pabst in 2010. “We are actively pursuing this deal as no doubt strategics will also.”
C. Dean Metropoulos, founder of the firm, has specialized in purchasing struggling brands, such as Chef Boyardee and Bumble Bee Tuna and turning them around. The firm paid close attention to the maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread during its bankruptcy proceedings, Daren Metropoulos has said.
We have analyzed this opportunity very carefully for a few years now,” Metropoulos said in an e-mail. “Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive.”
The 82-year-old company also makes Hostess CupCakes, Ding Dongs and Ho Hos. The private equity firm is “fully prepared to participate in any process involving selling the brands,” Daren Metropoulos said. " |
Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/pabst-owner-metropoulos-is-considering-bid-for-hostess-brands.html 11/16/2012 8:35:28 PM
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jstpack All American 2184 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive.” " |
shocking... 11/16/2012 8:45:45 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39526 Posts user info edit post |

11/16/2012 8:47:22 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148860 Posts user info edit post |
union workers losing their jobs
i thought unions were perfect?
also who used to unroll their Swiss Cake Rolls? that was the shit
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 8:50 PM. Reason : .] 11/16/2012 8:50:25 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39526 Posts user info edit post |
I used to put mine in the freezer
a pro move if there ever was one 11/16/2012 8:52:56 PM
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confusi0n All American 5076 Posts user info edit post |
Oh god - imagine how unbearably retro and hipster twinkies will get if they are linked to PBR 11/16/2012 9:15:39 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39526 Posts user info edit post |
pretty sure that's what you would project onto a product that wouldn't change one bit
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 9:19 PM. Reason : it's sad that you would even give a fuck] 11/16/2012 9:18:23 PM
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slappy1 All American 2303 Posts user info edit post |
Swiss cake roll is LITTLE DEBBIE you terrorist!!
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason : ...] 11/16/2012 10:48:55 PM
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