i had some swedish meatballs at the ikea here in shanghai.

dunno what the big deal is, what the fuck is the difference betw cow meat in you and horse meat?

2/26/2013 12:44:19 AM

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2/26/2013 4:39:29 AM

The two types of meat really are similar, similar enough to pass the cheaper horsemeat off as beef; the problem isn't the cultural "ick" factor in some parts of the world, and deffo not a health concern, but rather fraud: If the package says "beef," it needs to contain beef.

2/26/2013 5:17:51 AM

^ No, it's because some people find horses cute and therefore exclude them from their "meat-to-eat" list.

It's more of a cultural problem than anything else.

I lived in a country where raw horsemeat was consumed right along with beef because people didn't have mores against eating it. \

While I do agree that fraud is occurring, people are flipping out exactly because of the "ick" factor.

2/26/2013 6:19:19 AM

okay here we go

1) There is a stigma against horse meat. Its not supposed to be in the food supply so people got buttmad when they found out it was there

2) There is a infinitely small chance that trace amounts of chemicals from medicines used in horse races could be found in potential meat.

That is basically all there is to this discussion.

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2/26/2013 6:54:38 AM

i think the bigger issue is how the horses end up becoming horse meat.....

2/26/2013 7:30:08 AM

i chose horse carpaccio over beef when i was in switzerland...i thought it was fine

i'd eat it again

2/26/2013 8:40:02 AM

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"i think the bigger issue is how the horses end up becoming horse meat....."

Really? Horses in countries like Romania (where I heard this meat could have come from, I could be completely wrong btw) aren't exactly like the nice expensive horses we have here. It isn't like they are killing some pure bred race horses for meat.

2/26/2013 9:51:21 AM

^ true. but here in the US the horse slaughter trade is ugly (horses are stolen from people and sold to slaughter, the thoroughbred industry who breeds and dumps anything that isnt going to win them $ are sent to slaughter). and they get taken to slaughter where things are not regulated at all like the pork/beef/poultry industry...

[Edited on February 26, 2013 at 9:54 AM. Reason : .]

2/26/2013 9:54:22 AM

I thought the bigger issue was that the source of the horse meat is unknown, meaning the same standards/regulations regarding chemicals and sanitation that are held for beef couldn't really be verified.

[Edited on February 26, 2013 at 9:58 AM. Reason : im too slow. and my balls are plump]

2/26/2013 9:55:51 AM

Eels up inside you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AckvdGbk4w

2/26/2013 10:30:00 AM

Hey, horse may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker.

2/26/2013 10:31:55 AM

^ why would they put something that tastes like pumpkin pie into a hamburger patty?

personally, the whole regulation thing is a little unfair...i don't know how many of you have actually seen a slaughterhouse (i'm sure some have), or know about the standards (i'm sure some do), but considering the meat is pretty well sanitized before being packaged and shipped...AND the fact that you're eating more parts of the animal than just the meat, anyway...the prospect of horse in your shitty patty should be the least of your concerns

i just don't understand the problem, outside of thinking you're getting 100% beef (including beef parts that aren't meat, mind you) and getting 98% beef and parts...this simply isn't a big deal

2/26/2013 10:46:45 AM

It is not a big deal at all. People are just mad. Its just like any other news story.

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2/26/2013 11:17:35 AM

I guess it depends on how much you trust proven liars.

I also thought it was like 50-100% horse meat in some cases.

2/26/2013 11:20:09 AM

Hey, it's not big deal guys. You shouldn't be worried if your beef has horse meat in it. Or dog meat for that matter. Or if your chicken is actually cat or opossum. People are overeacting, it's all the same.

2/26/2013 11:31:25 AM

We are talking about ground meat. Do you know anything about slaughter houses? One of my friends works in a slaughterhouse and his job was to pull indistinguishable body parts out of mixtures by hand.


You should expect anything in shitty ground meats that is sold in a place that is not a fancy restaurant. Like if I go to snoopys or taco bell can I really get mad that its not 100% USDA Grade A beef? No. Because its like 35 cents for 5 tacos. If you care about where your food comes from go to whole foods, buy local, or ask at a restaurant (most will be happy to tell you) or shut the fuck up.



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2/26/2013 11:35:51 AM

When I first heard this news my first though was wondering how it was more economical to raise horses for meat than it was a cow. I guess they eat less... but produce less meat. Meh.

2/26/2013 11:51:25 AM

The real discussion should be about whether or not its a coincidence that Germany was just considering offering horse meat to poor people in shelters

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2/26/2013 11:58:52 AM

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"We are talking about ground meat. Do you know anything about slaughter houses? One of my friends works in a slaughterhouse and his job was to pull indistinguishable body parts out of mixtures by hand."

you/your friend really have no idea what you are talking about.

2/26/2013 12:04:22 PM

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2/26/2013 12:06:12 PM

I lived in Mexico for a while, and horse meat is common there. I read one time where 6/10 taco stands in Mexico city were actually horse meat.

In Monterrey where I lived there is a big mass meat processor called something like 'economy meat'. They process horse meat for both human and animal consumption. The funny thing is, the taco stands in the few blocks that surround the facility has the cheapest tacos i've ever seen, literally half the cost of the average taco. I ate there anytime I was passing through the train station and could never tell a difference.

2/26/2013 12:07:56 PM

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"Hey, it's not big deal guys. You shouldn't be worried if your beef has horse meat in it. Or dog meat for that matter. Or if your chicken is actually cat or opossum. People are overeacting, it's all the same"

clearly your examples - especially soylent green - were all reasonable and comparable within the scope of this particular discussion...good job keeping it all in perspective

i find it incredibly amusing that people freaking out over GROUND BEEF found at BURGER KING (as well as frozen meals and other sources of the shittiest grade of trash meat available for purchase to be consumed by humans)

the level of stupid in the average consumer never ceases to astound me

[Edited on February 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM. Reason : eat steak or stop bitching, fatties]

2/26/2013 12:09:14 PM

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"Like if I go to snoopys or taco bell can I really get mad that its not 100% USDA Grade A beef?"

no, but i'd be pissed if i found out they were using squirrel and possum meat.

2/26/2013 12:18:57 PM

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"i'd be pissed if i found out they were using squirrel and possum meat"

i know you're trying to make a point, but you're failing miserably

horses are livestock, just like cattle...neither squirrel nor possum fall into the category of livestock...furthermore, horse and beef meat is extremely similar in flavor and texture...i suspect they're nutritionally comparable (actually, i'm betting the horse is better), but i won't pretend to know about that

i'm not saying that it's okay for them to advertise "100% beef" and have miscellaneous animals in there...but you're fooling yourself if you think you're getting 100% MEAT in your shitty ground beef

so this whole "holy shit, there's horse in my hamburger!" whinefest is retarded

2/26/2013 12:23:18 PM

it's quite amusing that some people are trying to defend this. d

2/26/2013 12:24:49 PM

The problem is Burger King is selling you "a ¼ lb. of savory fire-grilled beef"

If we had truth in advertising it would say a 1/4 lb of fire-grilled "meat product". . . . . . .

2/26/2013 12:26:22 PM

The reason it would be a problem to find horse meat in ground beef in the US would be because how do we know what the hell was in the horse? Was it healthy? Had it been injected with antibiotics, hormones, or painkillers that are not supposed to be used on animals for slaughter? It would mean that all of the USDA and other regulations had been ignored or bypassed (which area already pretty minimally enforced), consumers would lose trust in the system. That's why its a big deal, not because its horse but because its not what they said. So if that part is wrong, what else is?

2/26/2013 12:49:21 PM

^ sad that it took that long for someone to bring up why the concern exists.

2/26/2013 1:25:26 PM

emce and I both said that

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2/26/2013 1:44:57 PM

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"Its not supposed to be in the food supply"

depends on the country

I mean the French and Italians love that stuff, and the UK even slaughters horses for processing abroad (mostly to France I guess).

2/26/2013 2:16:07 PM

^^^^ that's also the big problem on the veterinary side of things. since a vet wouldnt know 100% for sure that a so-called companion horse would NEVER be sold to slaughter, the drugs that they would be able to use to help them would become very limited. the same problem exists for people who have companion goats/sheep. there are alot more medications that *could* be used to treat them but because they *could* be sold to slaughter, vets can't use them by law...

2/26/2013 8:24:33 PM

I can only suspect that there is a lot of trolling going on here because some of these arguments don't make any sense. If you are worried about the types of medication a horse may have had you should look at tap water studies, you are ingesting untold amounts of medication just by drinking water. I understand that maybe the medicine given to a horse might not be acceptable for a human but if you don’t think they aren’t giving that cow you just ate the same things you are being naïve. The only argument that does make some sense is that you are expecting an all beef burger, I have not lived in the states in nearly 5 years but I don’t specifically remember the whopper being advertises as an ALL beef burger, I thought it was just advertised as a burger. If I remember correctly there is a curtain amount of soy in those burgers as a “bonding agent” anyways. I think this is a ridiculous thing to get bent out of shape about though. Plus the moratorium on horse slaughter ended last year (I don’t think the USDA has many inspectors or has allowed any processing plants to be licensed yet), both Mexico and Canada do it. We are capitalist we are falling behind in the horse meet game we need to step it up and produce

2/26/2013 11:03:20 PM

2/26/2013 11:10:09 PM

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/02/scientific-american-in-1875-eating-horse-meat-would-boost-the-economy/

3/1/2013 7:11:04 PM

^interesting, and eating insects would save the environment:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703293204576106072340020728.html

3/1/2013 7:37:15 PM

She knows.

3/2/2013 4:28:31 PM

its always ugly chicks that do this type of pornography

3/2/2013 4:40:42 PM

^^ OW

3/2/2013 6:34:05 PM

this steak still has marks where the jockey was hitting it

3/2/2013 10:36:37 PM

More on the eating of insects...the best way to deal with a plague of locusts is to capture and eat them: http://www.theworld.org/2013/03/locusts-kosher-snack/

3/8/2013 9:00:47 PM