bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reinstate-military-tuition-assistance-ta-and-block-armed-service-branches-any-further-suspension-ta/kSyVdySm
Recently, all branches of services have decided to get rid of their Tuition Assistance program. This is a program in which service members were given up to $4500 per year to take college classes while serving without having to dip into their GI Bill. It was a great benefit of serving in that it would allow to to better yourself and get more prepared for the transition to a civilian lifestyle if you got out. It also ensured that if you got deployment orders or TDY during the term, that you would not have to forfeit any of your own money. The only reason you would have to pay pack the government is if you failed the course.
Speaking from personal experience, I know that transitioning back to a civilian life style is a very difficult move, in fact, it's one of the most difficult things I have done. If I hadn't taken advantage of TA, I would not have been able to do nearly as well in school as I have. I would have required longer to graduate and would not have been used to the college course load. I was able to ease into it by taking 1 or 2 classes a semester while I was serving and I cannot express how much I am grateful for it.
So please, take a second out of your day and click the link, sign up real quick if needed, and sign the petition. Thanks
-bbehe
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reinstate-military-tuition-assistance-ta-and-block-armed-service-branches-any-further-suspension-ta/kSyVdySm
[Edited on March 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM. Reason : a] 3/12/2013 1:46:06 PM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
signed 3/12/2013 2:05:43 PM
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bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
signed 3/12/2013 2:05:59 PM
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MinkaGrl01
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Already signed and shared on fb. ] 3/12/2013 2:07:21 PM
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punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
Already signed and shared on fb. 3/12/2013 2:07:52 PM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
If i sign, will you record a video of yourself singing a song?
Im krallum and i approved this message 3/12/2013 2:08:13 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |

3/12/2013 2:08:22 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks to everyone who has signed.  3/12/2013 2:11:11 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
signed.
when i try to get a job with a high level of security clearance, they're going to look at all the petitions i've signed online and use that against me. 3/12/2013 2:20:07 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
I will have you know I had to reset my password to do this.  3/12/2013 2:23:00 PM
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jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Sign this one next
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/change-national-anthem-r-kellys-2003-hit-ignition-remix/Rm8SC7FP
[Edited on March 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM. Reason : ] 3/12/2013 2:24:24 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " K. M. Rockledge, FL March 12, 2013 Signature # 51,811 " |
that's my hometown! hmmm wonder if i know that person? it's a small world after all  3/12/2013 2:24:38 PM
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Mtan Man214 All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
Signed 3/12/2013 2:31:18 PM
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GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
As far as I know, that website exists solely for the entertainment of high-ranking gov't officials:
At-A-Glimpse: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions 3/12/2013 4:01:38 PM
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BubbleBobble BACK IN DA HIGH LIFE 114629 Posts user info edit post |
yes, let me go ahead and do this because it's going to make a difference 3/12/2013 4:02:21 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28493 Posts user info edit post |
if you're gonna sign a petition, sign this one:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/designate-may-20th-macho-man-randy-savage-day/2H6B8pnP
OH YEAH 3/12/2013 4:04:39 PM
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smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that website exists solely for the entertainment of high-ranking gov't officials" |
Besides, they WANT you to be upset about this budget cut. That's the point. You're a pawn.
You could always go to Washington with other soldiers and protest that you're not being paid what you were promised...but they'll probably just shoot you again.
 3/12/2013 4:15:06 PM
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GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
internet activist 3/12/2013 4:16:09 PM
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smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Also, that website almost certainly records your information in a database that can be referenced at a later date to determine political leanings. Anyone that signed those "allow NC to secede" petitions is really going to be screwed one day.
[Edited on March 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM. Reason : .] 3/12/2013 4:17:34 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28493 Posts user info edit post |
i hope nothing happens to me for signing the macho man one. 3/12/2013 4:30:16 PM
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smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
There might be a correlation between wrestling fans and "parts of the country I shouldn't bother campaigning in", but you'll probably be fine. 3/12/2013 4:34:38 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Did this decision coincide with the sequestration furloughs? 3/12/2013 5:16:57 PM
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Roflpack All American 1966 Posts user info edit post |
I know when I run for president in 40 years they're gonna pull up that R Kelly petition and nail me for signing it.
[Edited on March 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM. Reason : But fo real, Francis ain't got nothin on my boi R Kelly] 3/12/2013 5:33:44 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.stripes.com/news/congress-passes-bill-to-force-reinstatement-of-tuition-assistance-1.212706
Re-instated.
Thanks everyone  3/21/2013 5:23:11 PM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Yay 3/21/2013 5:27:24 PM
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Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
bbehe, I'm in the Coast Guard as well (Port Security Unit 305)
Unfortunately, the USCG did not have their tuition assistance reinstated today. All other branches did except for us. The reason being that their funding comes from DOD and ours comes from Department of Homeland Security. http://www.armytimes.com/news/2013/03/military-congress-saves-tuition-assistance-for-all-but-coast-guard-032113w/
It's bullshit, but there are new petitions starting up to make our case. Hopefully it passes because my tuition is due next month  3/21/2013 5:28:19 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Coasties got screwed, feel sorry for your guys 3/21/2013 6:24:38 PM
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Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Cool to see some rare bipartisanship in that.
Quote : | "Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., one of the sponsors of the measure, said on the Senate floor Wednesday that numerous troops he has spoken with were dismayed over service officials’ decision to end the education benefit." |
Quote : | "Sen. Kay Hagan, D-N.C., another amendment sponsor, said after the Senate vote that the tuition assistance program was the wrong place for military leaders to find savings." |
^^Got a link to one of those petitions?
[Edited on March 21, 2013 at 7:03 PM. Reason : .] 3/21/2013 7:02:32 PM
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merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Cool. You got your money back. Now what program got cut to provide for you? 3/21/2013 7:53:32 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
There is a lot of wasteful spending in the services, they need to cut on that before they cut educational benefits. 3/21/2013 8:35:00 PM
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merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
ok. So what was cut to give you money?
The country is in this mess because everyone wants to eat their cake and have it too. 3/21/2013 9:49:20 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
I actually don't benefit from TA and my GI Bill benefits are allowed to be cut by Congress. I benefited from them in the past and recognize it as an important benefit to those serving which is why I wanted to help bring it back.
As far as what was cut, nothing that concerns you I assure you. Congress didn't give the DoD money for this, they merely told the branches to find the money. This is coming from the pre-existing pool of military money.
[Edited on March 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM. Reason : a] 3/21/2013 9:55:37 PM
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raiden All American 10506 Posts user info edit post |
yeah signed it, shared it on fb and with my whole platoon & company.
glad to see it got reinstated, I have several soldiers that were gonna get screwed over hard b/c of that. 3/22/2013 8:29:42 AM
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DamnStraight All American 16665 Posts user info edit post |
Im glad you werent one of the facebook idiots who personally blamed Obama for tuition assistance getting initially cut. 3/22/2013 9:22:15 AM
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Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Coast Guard got TA reinstated today. Holla
Merbig, there is lots of stuff being cut already that I know of in my service. Ship building contracts have been dropped, training schools and programs have been eliminated per diem and BAH is being much more heavily scrutinized etc. etc.
There are so many wasteful practices that should be cut before educational benefits. 3/22/2013 5:22:27 PM
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JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
They really need to can all the terrible and expensive projects in the defense budget that has no real sense so shit like TA doesn't get canned... I mean seriously... why the hell does Homeland Security need 2.4 Billion dollars worth of Mine resistant armored personal carriers or 1.6 Billion bullets for Domestic use? That's a lot of money that could be taught teaching the younger generation to not be fuckups or actually do some good now that PTSD is happening way too much with not much support being given (and that support is getting cut too!)
There are ways to balance the budget, reduce our costs and still keep hold to services that should be the last things to cut, not first. 3/22/2013 5:33:48 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Im glad you werent one of the facebook idiots who personally blamed Obama for tuition assistance getting initially cut. " |
Oh, I don't nor would I ever. I understand that when I enlisted, the only things on my contract were job and rank However, I know how valuable of a program this is and it needed to be saved.
Quote : | "There are so many wasteful practices that should be cut before educational benefits. " |
Amen.
Combat/Hazard/Tax Free pay in 'deployed' zones such as Qatar and Manas need to go. The Air Force's obsession with LCD screens everywhere Stop paying BAS to single servicemembers when they deploy Closer scrutiny on TDYs Things like the KC-X acquisiton program The Osprey etc So much wasteful spending on the top brass decide to can this first? That's shitty leadership. Congress made the right decision 3/22/2013 5:40:37 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
If a service-members whore wife runs around on him while deployed allow the service member to cut off her benefits immediately instead of waiting until the divorce is finalized.
That alone would save the country billions. 3/22/2013 6:34:31 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
Srsly.
Off topic - my buddy in the Navy said he had to wait til he was out to divorce his wife or he would be reprimanded by the military. What's up with that? 3/22/2013 6:48:16 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Hahaha, yes, yes it would.
^ Uh, I'm not to sure. I do know going through a divorce can take you off PRP status though and you could lose the ability to do some aspects of your job for a while. 3/22/2013 6:50:40 PM
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JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Congress holds the budget, the Brass can'd do shit without a committee that ends up being mostly civilians who are lobbied by everyone in the industry to do this project or this weapons system that needs to be upgraded.
I mean when the Secretary of the Army tells congress to cut all orders of new M1A1 Abrams tanks because we hold a 2000 surplus of non-deployed, but ready main battle tanks in inventory that could have saved some $3 Billion; Congress told him that he couldn't because it would threaten job security of the tank building industry...
Don't forget the wasted $7 Billion for the stealth Comanche helicopter that was scrubbed or the $1 Billion electronic software management for the defense department that never got off the ground. Plus the extremely expensive F-35 JSF program that has bloated to the point of where we should have just spent the money on F-22's instead... but really doesn't matter because the 40 year old F16's and 18's are still vastly superior than what our enemies have anyhow.
I just find humor in the juxaposition of two news articles last week or so of how the Marines said to save every bullet to cut costs while DHS went on a spending spree with the 1.6 Billion bullet order. 3/22/2013 6:52:47 PM
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Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
What's PRP? 3/22/2013 6:53:15 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Personnel Reliability Program (PRP) is a United States Department of Defense psychological evaluation program, designed to permit only the most trustworthy individuals to have access to nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons. The program was first instituted during the Cold War. Among its goals are, (Quoting from DOD Directive 5210.42)" |
It's basically like a clearance. You have to be sane to work around stuff that goes boom. 3/22/2013 6:54:56 PM
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JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Personnel Reliability Program 3/22/2013 6:55:38 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Off topic - my buddy in the Navy said he had to wait til he was out to divorce his wife or he would be reprimanded by the military. What's up with that?" |
Probably because she could fuck up his career. If a military spouse commits adultery there are absolutely no repercussions against the spouse, the spouse can sit there and live in a free house, using free insurance, screwing whoever they want etc etc and drag out the divorce as long as they want. If the service member has an extra-marital relationship during this time they can turn them in to their supervisors and they get in a load of shit. Most dependapotomous have learned this system forwards and backwards.
If the service member commits adultery (even while separated with a divorce pending) it can really affect his career, rank, ability to get promoted, etc.
Even if he was not cheating, he may have decided it was not worth jeopardizing himself by going through a divorce still in the service.] 3/22/2013 7:30:08 PM
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raiden All American 10506 Posts user info edit post |
Actually, if a service member commits adultery, that's punishable under the UCMJ. Could go to jail for that shit. 3/22/2013 7:52:17 PM
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settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
fucking government handouts
everybody wants a piece of my paycheck
fuck you bbehe 3/22/2013 7:55:56 PM
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18410 Posts user info edit post |
Settle down, settledown 3/22/2013 7:57:24 PM
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raiden All American 10506 Posts user info edit post |
Settle down, settledown] 3/22/2013 8:03:54 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Actually, if a service member commits adultery, that's punishable under the UCMJ. Could go to jail for that shit." |
That's what I am talking about. The "military spouses" know how to maximize that shit to extract government benefits as long as possible. They can make their husbands life a living hell for months if not years and keep them from dating, or if they are threaten to ruin them for it.
If a civilian wants out of a marriage all they have to do is legally separate (move out) and they can sort out the details in court without it affecting their career.
Some lawyer should come out with a military pre-nup would make the spouse forfeit any assets they might receive in a divorce if they ever accuse their service-member spouse of adultery.  3/22/2013 9:17:46 PM
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