Do you live in Raleigh, Durham or Chapel Hill and want to do something about the systematic medication of our public drinking water?

Then join us for a potluck lunch, discussion and planning meetup on April 20, 2013 at the Indian Creek Shelter & Playground!

Why?

There are many individuals in the Triangle area who are deeply concerned about our city's policy of systematically adding medication to our public water supply. Unfortunately even after a collective 1.5 years of protests, the city councils have not taken our complaints to heart and continue this policy despite the mounting evidence that hydrofluorosilicic acid is detrimental to our health and not beneficial to our teeth.

Therefore we are coming together as a group to discuss how we can work together to affect change and force a referendum vote on this issue.

Click Here To Join/Share the Facebook Event
https://www.facebook.com/events/143704532475236/

Where?

Indian Creek Shelter A (With Playground)

Directions @ Google Maps

101 Town Hall Drive

Morrisville, NC 27560

When?

12:00pm to 2:00 pm

What?

Bring a prepared dish, a drink and your brain!

We will share food and nice weather but also discuss this very serious issue and develop a direct action plan to achieve our goals.

Questions about this event can be directed to the facebook page or my E-mail Address

WTVD's 7.5 min. Investigative Report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REnWEUipZCA

Videos of the City Council Trampling YOUR rights!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aRJlwrbAr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYjOBT_v_7M

http://www.youtube.com/embed/mSx-DrzGT2Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcMcDUQzABA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MufiD9UpUUo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFw5_9JdQ14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdqW__vPwGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkP_24YwOL4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfzsFP9pmSY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTPuOM0Ovr0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkF7kPoZoU

4/13/2013 11:07:00 PM

Hey crazy, don't post the same thread in multiple sections.

4/13/2013 11:20:36 PM

Quote :

"despite the mounting evidence that hydrofluorosilicic acid is detrimental to our health and not beneficial to our teeth."

citation needed

4/13/2013 11:22:15 PM

is this smc's new alias?

4/13/2013 11:55:28 PM

why did the Soap Box thread get locked? if anything, that's where this discussion belongs

4/14/2013 12:03:41 AM

can this dish be prepared with Raleigh medicine water?

4/14/2013 12:15:51 AM

Citations:

Clinical and Histological Features of Fluoride in the Teeth
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=104

Harvard: Fluoride Lowers IQ
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/idUS127920+24-Jul-2012+PRN20120724

Fluorosis - What is it?
http://www.fluoridealert.org/issues/fluorosis/

4/14/2013 12:58:26 AM

I love how this is taking place in morrisville, yet morrisville is on cary water (which has no relation to Raleigh)

Might want to pick a more relevant meeting place.

4/14/2013 8:51:30 AM

They put fluoride in the water to kill pathogens. Would you rather get diphtheria or have whiter teeth?

4/14/2013 9:40:57 AM

If it KILLS pathogens, imagine what it's doing to our CHILDREN!!!!1

4/14/2013 9:46:15 AM

You think this is bad, the city keeps TAKING trash from my curb.

What if I was just trying to start a trash pile there to attract raccoons, insects, and bacteria, but the CITY won't let me!

[Edited on April 14, 2013 at 9:59 AM. Reason : .]

4/14/2013 9:59:00 AM

This is less dangerous than the RADIO WAVES that Raleigh uses to read water meters. They are causing CANCER and controlling our minds.

4/14/2013 11:07:55 AM

The word is systemic

Im krallum and I approved this message

4/14/2013 11:10:20 AM

Did you know public pools add a deadly gas to the water?

We must stop this chlorine menace! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

4/14/2013 11:14:10 AM

I think they should add more stuff to the water. Like vitamins and minerals. Maybe something to curb the appetite of fat people.

4/14/2013 11:16:37 AM

Quote :

"Citations: Clinical and Histological Features of Fluoride in the Teeth http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=104 Harvard: Fluoride Lowers IQ http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/idUS127920+24-Jul-2012+PRN20120724 Fluorosis - What is it? http://www.fluoridealert.org/issues/fluorosis/"

That it can cause Fluorosis is not a new development. Or worrying at all.

Quote :

"If the water supply is fluoridated at the level of 1 ppm, one must consume one litre of water in order to take in 1 mg of fluoride. It is thus improbable a person will receive more than the tolerable upper limit from consuming optimally fluoridated water alone. Fluoride consumption can exceed the tolerable upper limit when someone drinks a lot of fluoride containing water in combination with other fluoride sources, such as swallowing fluoridated toothpaste, consuming food with a high fluoride content, or consuming fluoride supplements."

Quote :

"In November 2006 the American Dental Association published information stating that water fluoridation is safe, effective and healthy; that enamel fluorosis, usually mild and difficult for anyone except a dental health care professional to see, can result from ingesting more than optimal amounts of fluoride in early childhood; that it is safe to use fluoridated water to mix infant formula; and that the probability of babies developing fluorosis can be reduced by using ready-to-feed infant formula or using water low in fluoride to prepare powdered or liquid concentrate formula."

re: the IQ study

Quote :

"But 25 of the studies were conducted in China (the other two in Iran), a highly pertinent fact considering that water is not fluoridated the same way there as it is here. Much of China’s water is heavily contaminated with fluoride (when this happens in the U.S., the chemical is reduced to a safe level); some children in the studies were consuming nearly three times the EPA’s limit. And in two of the studies, the kids weren’t getting fluoride from their water at all: They were inhaling it from coal burning, which could have much more acute health effects. So the “high fluoride exposure” causing IQ problems in these studies is vastly different from what U.S. children are exposed to—in fact, some Chinese children in the reference groups (i.e., those who were supposedly “unexposed”) were drinking water that was fluoridated at levels found in the United States."

Quote :

"There’s another problem: The research reported an association—kids exposed to lots of fluoride have lower IQs—yet it didn’t account for other potential differences between the children that could explain it. Were the kids in fluoride-contaminated areas also exposed to lead? The authors of the meta-analysis don’t know. (They know that some of the kids were also exposed to arsenic and iodine; when they tried to statistically control for these exposures, fluoride seemed less dangerous, but still bad.) The children could also have differed in socio-economic status or education, both of which can affect intelligence."

Quote :

"Anna Choi [author of the IQ study], an environmental health scientist at the Harvard School of Public Health, declined an interview but emailed that the results “do not allow us to make any judgment regarding possible levels of risk at levels of exposure typical for water fluoridation in the U.S.” "

Don't confuse my responding with actually giving a shit. I'm just bored and I find conspiracy theories funny. Took me like 3 minutes of googling. Anyway, I'll keep drinking my "medicated" water and breathing in the chem-trails, and injecting autism into my kids, thank you very much.

[Edited on April 14, 2013 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .]

4/14/2013 11:19:04 AM

have you ever seen what CHLORINE will do to you if you have too much? It will KILL YOU. Raleigh is poisoning you!

4/14/2013 11:27:24 AM

OMG I HEARD THERE IS H2O IN OUR WATER SUPPLY. IT CAN LEAD TO DILUTIONAL HYPONATREMIA IF CONSUMED IN EXCESS. BAN H2O FROM OUR WATER SUPPLY.

4/14/2013 11:32:57 AM

Ice cream, Mandrake. Children's ice cream!

4/14/2013 11:36:09 AM

I'm more concerned about the mind controlling chemicals being dropped from planes flying out of RDU.

4/14/2013 12:05:01 PM

Hold on, I need to make some popcorn for this thread.

4/14/2013 12:08:31 PM

what a shameful thread. I have PMed OmarBadu and requested that the OP be terminated and the thread moved to chit chat to be ridiculed for all eternity

4/14/2013 1:01:55 PM

Quote :

"can this dish be prepared with Raleigh medicine water?"

lol beat me to it but I will put a twist on it.
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Quote :

"Then join us for a potluck lunch"

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT CHEMICALS THE PEOPLE HAVE PUT IN THOSE DISHES?!?! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

[Edited on April 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM. Reason : o snap i missed it.]

4/14/2013 1:05:10 PM

same thread multiple sections

4/14/2013 1:08:12 PM

first world problems

4/14/2013 9:54:54 PM

Remember "Swish" from grade school?

4/14/2013 10:18:46 PM

Quote :

"hydrofluorosilicic acid"

4/14/2013 10:23:25 PM

Quote :

"what a shameful thread. I have PMed OmarBadu and requested that the OP be terminated and the thread moved to chit chat to be ridiculed for all eternity"

The only joke here is you, buddy. It's only funny when you wear your ignorance like a suit of armor!

4/14/2013 10:51:17 PM

Oh dear

4/14/2013 11:10:10 PM

how did this get unlocked?

4/14/2013 11:39:59 PM

Man, I am having bad day. Somehow I fell into a time portal back to the 1940's and people are afraid of fluoridation and the "Red Scare" again.

4/14/2013 11:56:49 PM

^^ it's a new premium feature if you pay $10

4/15/2013 12:19:20 AM

Any logical argument you form against people like this is just a waste of time. The same goes for arguing with anyone who decides to champion any such cause (various extreme diets, chemtrails, vaccine poisoning, etc). I've got two words for you:

CONFIRMATION BIAS

4/15/2013 2:17:57 AM

THE CIA PUT A CHIP IN MY BRAIN

4/15/2013 5:13:51 AM

THE CIA PUT A CHIMP IN MY BRAIN

4/15/2013 5:39:22 AM

THE CIA PUT A CHIMP IN MY BRIAN

4/15/2013 6:04:56 AM

THE CIA PUT A CHIP IN MY BRINE

4/15/2013 6:30:10 AM

THE CHIMP PUT A BRAIN IN MY CIA

[Edited on April 15, 2013 at 7:13 AM. Reason : ]

4/15/2013 7:13:17 AM

BRIAN IS A CIA CHIMP

4/15/2013 7:15:46 AM

4/15/2013 8:13:52 AM

BRIAN IS A CIA PIMP

4/15/2013 8:16:28 AM

Ok dude... i get you have teeth problems and want it to not be your fault.

The truth of the matter is people in counties without flouride in their water look like this



you can cite some minority reports on the few people who do have issues with it...

but ultimately... more people have all their teeth because of floride water.

ohh mah guurrddd i drinks tooo much waterrrzzz.... mah teeth have dots on them.

seriously tho... i don't know how much floride you've drank in your life... but you ALMOST make me a believer that it hurts your IQ too.

4/15/2013 8:30:57 AM

THE BRAIN PUT A CHIMP IN MY CIA

4/15/2013 9:28:10 AM

http://www.loosechange911.com/

4/15/2013 9:54:29 AM

I never thought a compendium of people who have actually done the research on this subject would ellicit such ignorant & hateful responses from a message board allegedly established for graduates or students of higher education.

Almost everyone in this thread is reading the post with the intent to reply, rather than the intent to understand....

I Know it is fairly painful to admit that you A) Don't know what you're talking about B) Were lied to by the authorities your entire life and that

it is much easier to deny the problem than it is confront the truth of the matter...

But damn, most of you are just wallowing in your own ignorance and apathy. It's actually quite sad.

4/15/2013 10:01:12 AM

4/15/2013 10:06:49 AM

I'd like to get a better understanding of why some people are vehemently opposed to this. Do you think the government is trying to poison you? or do you think they're somehow using it as some sort of mind control?

4/15/2013 10:26:52 AM

I think any credibility this cause might have is lost by the nuttiness of supporters who act like this is some kind of conspiracy.

When people get like that you can't easily tell who's just saying something for the cause, and who knows what they're saying.

OP is a nutball, but a policy started in the 1950s might need to be reevaluated.

4/15/2013 10:29:13 AM

thegoldenrul,

It's because of my undergraduate and graduate studies in water quality related topics and professional experience in the water quality and remediation field that I post the following:



Signed,

dtownral

4/15/2013 10:31:41 AM

Bullet -

At best: The Government is misguided in their understanding of this issue. I have spoken with many within the government, those who determine this policy, and you would be SHOCKED at how unaware they are of the practice itself. Some had not even known that the city did this, despite it being a uniform policy for 88% of counties in the state.

Most probably - The Government has a vested interest in continuing the policy, mainly as a way to cheaply and profitably dispose of toxic waste that they otherwise would have to dispose of in a more environmentally friendly way. The chemical in question, hydrofluorosilicic acid, is a compound of different toxins which are wetscrubbed from the phosphate fertilizer manufacturing plants and sold to distributors, who then sell it to the municipality under the conventional wisdom that "Fluoride prevents cavities"

At worst - Certainly there are people in the government who truly believe that ingesting this stuff in the water is beneficial to your teeth, but we have to consider that some have a firm understanding of the issue and are consciously aware of what is going on, but continue doing it anyway. Whether they intend to poison us, "mind-control" us, or whatever is kind of beside the point...The point is, it IS poisoning us, and the science does support the concept that even low doses of ingested inorganic fluoride lower your IQ....See the harvard meta-data analysis: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html

Hey Dtown - if you'd like to debate the subject in an intelligent way instead of throwing your diplomas around as if they discredit me you can certainly do so...But you're just making yourself irrelevant by not actually addressing the information.

[Edited on April 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM. Reason : Added ]

4/15/2013 10:33:26 AM