HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I guess he's not such the innocent skittle holding little boy the media portrays him as....
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Pics from his cell phone.
I like his gold grill
[Edited on May 24, 2013 at 8:35 AM. Reason : a] 5/24/2013 8:34:56 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Guess that means he deserved to die. 5/24/2013 8:41:00 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
he shouldn't have brutally assaulted zimmerman then. 5/24/2013 8:52:43 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet, an actual witness that isn't George Zimmerman! Why aren't you down in Florida? 5/24/2013 8:57:21 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
oh no, a teenager who likes guns and pot.
smath ain't smart. 5/24/2013 9:25:49 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
(I did not post the pictures) 5/24/2013 9:40:20 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
He's no saint, but that doesn't mean he deserved to be (allegedly) manhandled and killed that way. 5/24/2013 10:13:49 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
HUR bein HUR 5/24/2013 11:56:18 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
The prosecution's case in a nutshell:
5/24/2013 12:24:10 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
conservative opinion when a white guy has pictures with guns: look at the media with their scary gun scare tactics! why does anyone care? it's not illegal or anything! there is nothing scary about guns, the guy is just expressing his second amendment rights. the lamestream media is just using scary guns to scare you!
conservative opinion when a black guy has pictures with guns: obviously a criminal, definitely guilty. 5/24/2013 12:45:50 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Strange also that they move between "The black community needs to fix their problems with crime." and "The solution to crime is more guns." without linking the two, hmmm... 5/24/2013 1:02:03 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^
and a teenager smoking marijuana? he's got the devil in him
[Edited on May 24, 2013 at 1:02 PM. Reason : .] 5/24/2013 1:02:28 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
he was a worthless little pothead thug stoner, of the ilk you see hangin on the stoop skippin school, laying in gutters at protests, and skipping work blowing dope out of their cars complaining about the police "targeting" them
dope smokers are the scum of society
but picking up a joint and holding a gun doesnt mean you automatically are the aggressor in all future altercations. All these little kids you see working at mcdonalds and goin to school, college, skateboarding, etc have access to guns.
The problem is all you white liberals that grew up in Gastonia only concerned with your own lives dont realize that the couple of teenage robbers/thugs arent the only ones that have guns. Its just young blacks arent as ignorant as you think they are overall. And they act like thugs on FB and shit because its imagery they can project that all their little friends identify with but in reality they dont want no parts of an altercation or getting a record. Hell they arent even comfortable holding the shit in their hands or carrying it. Believe it or not, these kids posing on FB with guns and weed drinking underage do wind up completing collegiate degrees and going on to normal careers with a wife/husband and kids.
so basically just because he has a gun doesnt mean hes out jackin and no good. Theyre just young punks that havent matured mentally yet. Theres 40 year old men on FB perpetrating this stuff on FB and want no parts of that actual life style. 5/24/2013 1:35:00 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dope smokers are the scum of society" |
i'd be willing to bet there are 10s of 1000s of "dope smokers" who are more productive members of society than yourself. problably not trayvon, but that's just a stupid thing to say. not out of character, though.
edit: i finished reading your post, and it's all over the place. he's was a worthless druggie thug that was the scum of society who was scared to hold a gun and who would have gone to college and had a carreer and a wife and kids?
[Edited on May 24, 2013 at 1:46 PM. Reason : ]5/24/2013 1:42:28 PM |
Byrn Stuff backpacker 19058 Posts user info edit post |
^^We don't have the same opinions about drug use, but amen to the rest of your post. An image -- a persona -- is not the same as a person's identity and is mostly irrelevant as a persuasive device. "Look at these pictures! There's a chance that he might have been a thug...and that he might have been violent...and that he might have been the aggressor in the altercation" 5/24/2013 2:05:08 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
The defense contends that Trayvon Martin is guilty of the following:
1. Posing with a gun on facebook NOT with a "Don't Tread on Me" flag behind him
2. Smoking reefer in some place that's NOT his mother's minivan in the suburbs
3. Enjoying violent music that does NOT fantasize about the South rising again
4. Wearing a hoodie that does NOT have a college's initials on it 5/24/2013 2:07:46 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
He got what was coming. But if Zimmerman gets off, watch out for riots. 5/24/2013 2:12:22 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dope smokers are the scum of society" |
oh lordy
don't you listen to Nas? do you know how much weed he smokes?
[Edited on May 24, 2013 at 3:14 PM. Reason : along with half of all the other great musicians, actors, and artists out there]5/24/2013 3:12:51 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "along with half of all the other great musicians, actors, and artists out there" | \\
and all types of professionals in all types of fields.5/24/2013 3:16:56 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^ woah now, that might be too much for him to handle 5/24/2013 3:24:47 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
just checking in to make sure people were telling each other how racist they must be. carry on. 5/24/2013 5:13:37 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
finger on the trigger while (probably) smoking pot isnt the best idea 5/24/2013 8:05:05 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
This is old news.
Also irrelevant. 5/25/2013 3:32:07 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Teenagers are shitheads.
This is universal. 5/25/2013 8:45:16 AM |
Pred73 Veteran 239 Posts user info edit post |
Why didn't Trayvon have his piece when he and Zimmerman got into it? Seems in retrospect that it might have done him some good. 5/25/2013 10:42:36 PM |
TULIPlovr All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is old news.
Also irrelevant." |
I guess Zimmerman's past is irrelevant too, then.5/25/2013 10:55:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
they're both relevant. but a grown-man's police records that include violence is a little more relevant than a teenager's phone-pics of weed and a gun. 5/26/2013 11:08:33 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
My whole issue is not that the pictures exonerate Zimmerman, it is more of the way the media spinned the whole situation when it occured.
Everytime the story came up the picture used to portray Trayvon as some innocent little boy that was murdered by some over zealous community watchman. When in reality the issue is somewhere in the middle.
instead of
thought this was classic....
5/26/2013 1:32:23 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they're both relevant. but a grown-man's police records that include violence is a little more relevant than a teenager's phone-pics of weed and a gun." |
Wow that's some seriously selective memory. Is it relevant that:
- his texts mentioned brawling? - he had pics with a hand gun?
I can see the flipping of the bird being a little less relevant. Taken as a whole, these things seem absolutely material to the trial. I get the concern that the jury won't understand the cultural context that this stuff exists in. But so what?5/27/2013 4:55:34 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
It's relevant, but it's also just as douchey as dragging every sexual partner a woman has had for the last ten years into the courtroom during a rape trial. 5/27/2013 5:49:29 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
oh mah heavens
someone flipped the bird?
I'se got the vapors... 5/27/2013 10:20:00 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My whole issue is not that the pictures exonerate Zimmerman, it is more of the way the media spinned the whole situation when it occured. that I hate black people" |
5/27/2013 11:03:22 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ It seems this happens more than I would like to believe.
The Brad Cooper trial was extremely douchey, but no one was arguing prosecutor misconduct because of that. AFAIK, they blocked evidence from the trial and prevented the defense from... defending their client. The jury made their decision based on the Google Maps search, not the neighborhood gossip.
If you're so worried about the jury being racist assholes that you don't want them to see the full case, then you shouldn't support the jury system. 5/28/2013 9:44:51 AM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
The best thing for the country is that neither this little thug nor this jerkoff neighborhood watch guy are on the streets. We are 1/2 way there. 5/28/2013 12:59:42 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^little thugs can be avoided by knowing what neighborhood to not go in. 5/28/2013 2:55:26 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^says the guy who has a picture of himself holding a chainsaw as a weapon, a pic of him dressing up as a serial killer, and another pic of a totally awesome collection of liquor bottles in his profile gallery. 5/28/2013 3:08:10 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
A good rule of thumb on TWW Bullet is to not act like Big4County if you can help it. 5/28/2013 5:35:50 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
His point was that non-violent people take pictures like these all the time, even users on this site 5/28/2013 5:41:10 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
So? 5/28/2013 7:09:48 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
As far as I'm concerned, justice has already been served in this case, with Zimmerman being arrested, and SYG not being used.
I don't really care how this plays out at this point. 5/29/2013 1:29:27 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "HUR: Everytime the story came up the picture used to portray Trayvon as some innocent little boy that was murdered by some over zealous community watchman. When in reality the issue is somewhere in the middle." |
He was 17 years-old. I don't think anybody had any illusions about him being an "innocent little boy." And, when somebody dies, we always use the most flattering representations of that person. This practice is changing a bit, as the Internet has made candid pictures more readily available...but no respectable news source is gonna use dead-kid-flipping-the-bird-like-a-jackass pics.
Furthermore, Fox News, the most watched cable news source, has covered this story precisely the way you seem to want it covered. And it's a little silly to criticize the reporting of other outlets: there was obviously a racial element at play and a pretty exciting 911 call to examine. Of course, the news in general does suck, but it's pretty telling if this story is where you choose to take your stand.
I will say that I'm surprised people are being so blasé about the gun/marijuana plant pics. I realize that the gun may not belong to him, or he might have had a permit or whatever. But, if not, that is regarded as a very serious crime, and it's really sad if that's just the kind of thing we expect because of the "cultural context." His parents were married at one time. His mother had him in her 30s, and she was gainfully employed his entire life. If he had been caught with this stuff, he would have gone to prison. That's insane, horrible, embarrassing...all around really, really not okay.5/29/2013 11:37:37 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Racist. 5/29/2013 5:56:12 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it's racist to expect young people from comfortable, nonviolent homes to avoid carrying illegal firearms.
I'm not suggesting he was a "bad" kid. I am saying that if this is a thing--kids carrying guns for no reason--I am not okay with it, and I'm surprised people are being so dismissive about it. The kids are going too far. 5/29/2013 7:09:25 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Under 18 with a gun is a felony.... 5/29/2013 8:01:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
I held a gun as a teen
does that make me a criminal?
or a thug? 5/29/2013 8:06:09 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
No, you arent black.
See for them its a cultural thing (apparently).
That's why Bridget is a racist.
lol jp 5/29/2013 8:38:31 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
You people are impossible.
^You're not following. I put the phrase "cultural context" in quotes because that's what other people were saying, not me. Do you understand?
^^Not necessarily.
^^^Seriously. 5/29/2013 10:44:55 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
You must have missed the "lol jp."
Either that or you missed out on some sweet tiki torches / chilly willys at Big Lots.
That time I wasnt picking. 5/29/2013 11:11:39 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know what "jp" means, and I didn't feel like looking it up. 5/29/2013 11:19:32 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
just picking 5/29/2013 11:54:39 PM |