I've never had one, but heard it rivals child birth.

10/31/2013 9:18:54 PM

and unfortunately you can't push well

10/31/2013 9:21:46 PM

my urethra is nearly an inch long

10/31/2013 9:25:16 PM

that's like shorter than a woman's

10/31/2013 9:26:00 PM

sorry, that's its width

i was referring more to the visible 'length' on the head

10/31/2013 9:28:55 PM

i have a cool story bro. And by cool I mean gross.

HS baseball. Was pitching (shutout at the time actually). Line drive right back at me, hit me right in the jaw. Had to have jaw surgery and have mouth wired together for 6 weeks.

Week #2 I got a kidney stone. Hurt SO damn bad I threw up. Nowhere for me to throw up as mouth was wired together but ER guy said they didnt want to cut the wires unless the absolutely had to because my jaw hadn't healed yet but obviously they werent going to let me choke to death. Soooo, I had to lean forward and let the vomit slowly drip out between my teeth while still passing the kidney stone for about 4 hours. Good times

[Edited on October 31, 2013 at 9:33 PM. Reason : d]

10/31/2013 9:30:57 PM

hit in the jaw in the first inning? ouch

10/31/2013 9:31:40 PM

7th bitch, the palm ball was ON that day

[Edited on October 31, 2013 at 9:33 PM. Reason : d]

10/31/2013 9:32:52 PM

No insurance. 10 days of waves of pain so bad I vomited.

When I got pregnant a couple months after that my doctor told me child birth would be a piece of cake.

10/31/2013 9:33:39 PM

No kidney stones but I've passed gallstones. At least they think I did. No real way of telling. It sucked hard. On the floor screaming that I was dying. Made it to the ER in time for the pain to just disappear. Three times. The third time the pain didnt go away for hours but the screaming in agony pain went away after they had me all wired up for an EKG. They thought i might have been having a heart attack. And kidney stones are worse than that apparently. That has to be awful.

10/31/2013 10:18:21 PM

this is one thing i am scared of getting one day

10/31/2013 10:21:22 PM

Kidney stones are a breeze if you know how to treat it. Once you start to feel that pain start drinking beer. Drink heavily till you piss that sucker out.

11/1/2013 6:00:22 AM

I passed my first one at work, of all places, a few months ago. excruciating pain, radiated all over my body, especially down there. had no idea what was happening until I went to the bathroom and noticed that lovely rust colored piss. didn't try beer, but I drank a shitton of water until it passed. I guess the stone wasn't too big, it hurt way more going through my body than it did finally coming out. still, I don't look forward to ever having to do that again.

11/1/2013 7:01:41 AM

This scares me worse than spiders and girls >25% body fat.

Does diet have a lot to do with it?

11/1/2013 7:23:30 AM

^Yes and no. Some people can eat whatever and never get one. Once you get one the doctors will want you to collect it to analyze it. There are various kinds.

Taken from the other thread in the lounge, percentage of all stones in parenthesis.

calcium oxalate (80%) - avoid all kinds of nuts, spinach, wheat bran, beans, berries... pretty much all the food that's normally good for you. Seriously, I don't see how anyone with a history of this type of stone can adhere to the diet. I've heard there's no point in attempting to reduce calcium intake as your body will just get it from your bones. I just read something that said an increase in calcium may actually help the calcium and oxalate bond in the digestive tract instead but I'd have to read more about that.

uric acid (5-10%) - avoid red meat, excessive alcohol.

struvite (10-15%) - caused by infections.

cystine (less than 1%) - hereditary.

In my case I think it was a lack of drinking water. I'm no doctor but I think that's what lead to my stone and may be why the south is the kidney stone belt. You sweat out so much water in the summer that you don't end up flushing your kidneys enough.

As far as the pain. I've spent the last several years trying to forget. I still have a healthy fear of it.

11/1/2013 8:03:13 AM

There are different types of kidney stones made from different minerals. Some are caused by diet and others are not. That's also why some people have different degrees of pain/blood/length of time to pass. Some are rounded and others look like sand spurs.

Mine are caused by malformed kidneys in conjunction with a metabolic disorder. My kidneys are so full of "gravel" that my x rays look like I've been hit with bird shot. I, too, live in fear of the larger ones moving. The ones like sand I pass all the time without noticing.

11/1/2013 8:11:18 AM

these all look horrifying

https://www.google.com/search?q=kidney+stone+microscope&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=uZpzUuj6GI7ksAT7m4GIBQ&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1404&bih=741

is this an evolutionary thing to not eat shitty food?

it's like they're designed intentionally to be as painful as possible

11/1/2013 8:13:23 AM

I have calcium phosphate stones and take medication twice a day to reduce my stone formation.

11/1/2013 8:18:49 AM

^^dear god. i just GIS'ed kidney stones too. the horror.

11/1/2013 8:23:15 AM

11/1/2013 8:36:48 AM

Just to scare people a bit more....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1124329/Pictured-The-2-5lb-kidney-stone-size-coconut-surgeons-removed-mans-stomach.html

Coconut-sized
2.5 pounds

I would use it as a cannon-ball in my next duel... or as a massive paper-weight if faced with a lack of duels.

11/1/2013 8:46:40 AM

i think that person mated with an ostrich.

11/1/2013 9:11:01 AM

It feels like the apex pain of being racked in the nuts

except it doesn't stop

11/1/2013 11:33:36 AM

Quote :

"i have a cool story bro. And by cool I mean gross. HS baseball. Was pitching (shutout at the time actually). Line drive right back at me, hit me right in the jaw. Had to have jaw surgery and have mouth wired together for 6 weeks. Week #2 I got a kidney stone. Hurt SO damn bad I threw up. Nowhere for me to throw up as mouth was wired together but ER guy said they didnt want to cut the wires unless the absolutely had to because my jaw hadn't healed yet but obviously they werent going to let me choke to death. Soooo, I had to lean forward and let the vomit slowly drip out between my teeth while still passing the kidney stone for about 4 hours. Good times"

One of my irrational fears is that some day I'll have to have my jaw wired shut for this reason and then I'll vomit. The idea of throwing up and not having anywhere for it to go is terrifying

11/1/2013 11:39:05 AM

Apparently if you vomit in a gas mask in a combat situation you have to swallow it. Which makes sense, but I'm also feeling a little pukey just thinking about it.

11/1/2013 11:44:12 AM

Both of those situations seem pretty mentally traumatic to me. Yuck.

11/1/2013 12:17:47 PM

So the pain is worse than nerve pain from a ruptured disc?

11/1/2013 12:21:23 PM

shit sucks

and then it keeps sucking

and you're like

WHY WON'T I JUST PASS OUT

11/1/2013 1:27:31 PM

Lol. Yeah. I've broken bones and that extreme mind blowing pain is for an instant then it's just regular old pain unless you try to weight bear. Kidney stones are that extreme make you vomit pain over and over and over. It comes in waves, so just when you think it might ease, it starts all over again.

11/1/2013 2:28:17 PM

Guess is in the ER right now for kidney stones. This girl!

11/15/2013 7:52:34 PM

I'd love to see bottombabys xrays. Hope you get to feeling better.

11/15/2013 10:41:35 PM

after reading this thread i'm tempted to have my kidneys removed.

11/15/2013 10:43:43 PM

#1 rule, and I speak from experience. When you think you are about to pass the stone, DONT TRY until you can't wait any longer to piss, else you risk running out of urine with the stone stuck in your urethra. That 30 minutes of chugging water hurt 10x more than any other part of the experience.

11/15/2013 11:50:02 PM

This must be a guy problem because of the length of your urethra. I found the stuff that happens once in your bladder to be the easiest part.

I got fluids and pain meds last night. Toradol is magic. Now I'm home with percocet waiting. I've already collected some particles, so I hope it's on the move.

[Edited on November 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM. Reason : I think I jinxed myself posting in this thread a few weeks ago. ]

11/16/2013 9:37:48 AM

I've had two that were the size of golf balls.

The last one was really, really bad. The lithotripsy isn't bad, but passing what is the equivalent of 2,000 normal kidney stones at once is.

11/17/2013 10:06:36 PM

just had my first kidney stone yesterday and I can safely say it was the worst pain i've ever experienced. Started about 9 AM and I finally passed it around 9:30 PM. It started immediately after i woke up and used the bathroom. The pain was intense in my kidney and testicle at the same time. I couldn't lay down, sit, or stand still. I paced around my apartment until about 11 when i finally called my dad. One trip to the hospital, a shot of Demerol, a CT Scan 3 Vicodin later I was told it had moved to my bladder and would eventually pass. I kept chugging water to make sure what was said above about stopping mid-stream didn't happen and it finally passed. Amazing that something the size of a BB can cripple a man.

5/20/2015 5:56:15 PM

^ Okay, that sucks hard, obviously. Congrats on having it over.

But I do have a question. When you say "it was the pain I ever experienced," do you just mean it was the most painful experience of your life, in terms of total suffering over those 12 or so hours? Or did the experience include the actual most painful moment of your life?

I'm just wondering because I feel like, while I'm sure having kidney stones is fucking unimaginably awful, it can't be as painful as, say, stubbing your toe. If I had to experience a continuous stubbed-toe sensation for an hour, and I couldn't get access to morphine or something, I'd very possibly kill myself.

tl;dr Are kidney stones really excruciatingly painful, or just rather pretty fucking tolerably painful, and also constant? 'Cuz I feel like I'd kill myself after 10 minutes or so of excruciating pain.

5/20/2015 6:20:12 PM

i've never broken a major bone, been shot, or stabbed. so in my life this was the worst pain ever. it's excruciating and it comes in waves. Just when you think it may be tolerable and you might get a moment of relief and sit or lay down for a few minutes the next wave of pain comes. i literally paced in circles around my kitchen and living room because it was the only thing that would somewhat allow me to not ball up in agony.

honestly i'd say it was the most painful experience and most painful moment.

[Edited on May 20, 2015 at 6:31 PM. Reason : add]

5/20/2015 6:30:20 PM

double post

5/20/2015 6:30:20 PM

okay, I have a different perspective on kidney stones now. my balls are kind of scrunching up just reading that.

5/20/2015 6:36:57 PM

I've had them. Fucking brutal. My only advice is to try to drink like a gallon of water all at once. It was the only way I can get them to pass.

5/20/2015 8:39:41 PM

I have had several, and the doctors dont know why. Unfortunately, mine take a month to pass, so it is usually brutal for the first few days and then the stone moves to where it doesnt hurt and all of a sudden it will move and start killing me. Pretty killer drugs though, so that's a bonus, I guess. They really dont hurt coming out, but passing through from the kidney to the bladder is awful. For me it feels like the cramps from the stomach flu and gas pain all at once.

Oh, and twice now I have had them get stuck in the tip because my stream ran out. That sucked.

5/20/2015 8:47:14 PM

yeah man... you used the example of the sharp instant pain of a stubbed toe. think of a toe shaped testicle that is stubbed between two bricks continuously for hours upon hours with no pause.

yeah that's a kidney stone pain.

5/20/2015 9:01:02 PM

It fucking sucks, that's all you need to know.

Now back to chugging water.....

5/20/2015 11:56:35 PM

was just informed i have additional stones in both kidneys

5/21/2015 2:59:12 PM

It feels like the apex of being kicked in the balls but the pain doesn't go away.

Kidney stones curbed my drinking big time. I vowed to never let that happen again.

5/21/2015 3:20:57 PM

it was my understanding that drinking alcohol doesn't cause kidney stones, except that alcohol (and caffeine) act as a diuretic, and dehydration can lead to kidney stones, but if you stay hydrated, alcohol in and of itself doesn't cause kidney stones. and drinking in moderation can actually help prevent kidney stones. am i right?

[Edited on May 21, 2015 at 4:01 PM. Reason : ]

5/21/2015 3:34:02 PM

This thread has me drinking lots of water.

5/21/2015 3:56:01 PM

^^pretty much. there are a number of things a person needs to change regarding their diet and intake over alcohol.

of the things people associate with kidney stones i can say for certainty i don't eat/drink in excess. Coffee (1 cup a day), Energy Drinks (never), sodas (1-2 per week), grapefruit (never), milk and dairy (very minimal), red meat (average).

some people produce more calcium naturally than others. (still waiting to find out if that's me).

some people just do not hydrate enough. (this i am extremely guilty of but had been making better strides in recent months (obviously it wouldn't counter what had already formed)).

5/21/2015 4:22:51 PM

I just passed my first stone yesterday. I kept that bastard for 6 weeks, 3 days. I was set up for laser removal on Wednesday, but thankfully I don't have to go through that. It was a horrible experience. I had to plan my days carefully to not be more than an hour from the house so I could make it home if the pain came on. Once the pain waves started, it was pain meds, pacing the floor, and pillow placement. The final days was more of sharp pissing pains. It was just horrible.

5/24/2015 6:40:11 PM