Str8BacardiL ************ 41758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Americans are growing more comfortable with marijuana, with 58 percent favoring legalization according to the latest Gallup poll. At the same time, some researchers believe they have identified a side benefit to increasing availability of the drug: It could lead to decreased consumption of alcohol among young people.
In a paper in the winter issue of the Journal of Policy Analysis and Management, two researchers — D. Mark Anderson of Montana State University and Daniel Rees of the University of Colorado at Denver — report that legalization of marijuana for medical purposes has been associated with reductions in heavy drinking, especially among 18- through 29-year-olds, and with an almost 5 percent decrease in beer sales. In addition, the increase in the legal drinking age from 18 to 21 seems to encourage greater marijuana use among people under 21, usage that drops sharply when they reach the legal drinking age.
If marijuana is widely legalized for recreational purposes (only Washington State and Colorado have taken that step), the consequences are far from clear. But assuming the argument that alcohol and marijuana are “substitutes” bears out, that could be good news, especially for road safety. Of the two substances, alcohol is far more hazardous.
For the most part, marijuana-intoxicated drivers show only modest impairments on road tests. Several studies have suggested that drivers under the influence of marijuana actually overestimate their impairment. They slow down and increase their following distance. The opposite is true of drivers under the influence of alcohol." |
ahahahahaha11/3/2013 10:01:02 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
If you partake in both, does that mean you drive normally? 11/3/2013 10:07:14 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i used to HATE riding in cars with a stoned driver 11/3/2013 10:08:26 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
OFF KAPLAN?!? 11/3/2013 10:12:12 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and with an almost 5 percent decrease in beer sales. " |
11/3/2013 10:19:33 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I know people that drive high. No thank you
[Edited on November 3, 2013 at 11:49 PM. Reason : !] 11/3/2013 11:49:10 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
How fast was I going officer?
You were going 7mph. 11/4/2013 6:27:00 AM |
jbtilley All American 12801 Posts user info edit post |
row-ads r00ds 11/4/2013 8:02:45 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
He's already pulled over! He can't pull over any farther! 11/4/2013 8:07:31 AM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
"You're on third street!" 11/4/2013 8:46:23 AM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
My mom's best friend was killed by two 14 year old stoned drivers that went the wrong way down an exit ramp. 11/4/2013 9:13:51 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
11/4/2013 9:19:10 AM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
how were they both driving? was one working the gas and break pedals and the other was steering?
disincentivizing the black market is a good way to get drugs away from kids. 11/4/2013 2:08:02 PM |
BIGcementpon Status Name 11321 Posts user info edit post |
Americans are growing comfortable with marijuana 11/4/2013 2:13:04 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
haha, i'd hate to have a stoned driver drive me around
I took a buddy, who was stoned out of his mind, to a party about 5 miles down the road and he literally said "when are we going to get there, man? we've been driving for 2 hours." 11/4/2013 2:19:09 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
your buddy sounds like an idiot. cause i'm pretty sure most people who use it don't confuse 5 minutes with 2 hours. it doesn't work that way. 11/4/2013 2:23:06 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
did you confuse 5 minutes with 5 miles because you are smoking? 11/4/2013 2:38:12 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
i assumed it was in the 60 mph zone of I-440. 11/4/2013 2:48:54 PM |
BubbleBobble EUPHALO.COM RIP JK 114573 Posts user info edit post |
ah ha ha ha ha ha 11/4/2013 5:29:44 PM |
BubbleBobble EUPHALO.COM RIP JK 114573 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you partake in both, does that mean you drive normally?" |
ya
that makes perfect sense
1 makes you drive fine
1 doesn't
the logical conclusion is that you'll drive just fine11/4/2013 5:31:05 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I for one hope its never legal, I wish tobacco products would also join the list. If it does nothing good for you why should it be legal. 11/4/2013 7:24:15 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Terrible troll is terrible. 11/4/2013 8:10:49 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42552 Posts user info edit post |
wow
http://www.policymic.com/articles/71559/this-5-year-old-s-tragic-story-proves-what-medical-marijuana-advocates-have-been-saying-for-years
11/4/2013 9:12:34 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Its not a troll for once. Legalizing marijuana will do nothing but have more people smoking it. Smoking is a terrible habit, doesn't help with anything, and leads to death. Just because more people want to get stoned does not mean it should be legalized. And after you legalize it what about all the (black) people in prison for it? What about all the people that have records because of it? etc etc.
If I had a child I'd rather they drink than start smoking. Legalizing marijuana will not remove the criminal element, government marijuana will not be laced like the dealers so drug dealers will still be in business. 11/5/2013 5:46:12 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
you don't have to smoke it 11/5/2013 5:59:11 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Thats another issue, what happens when kids start eating it? 11/5/2013 7:33:47 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHA, excellent point. 11/5/2013 8:00:26 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Legalizing marijuana will do nothing but have more people smoking it." |
It will do many things besides having more people smoking it.
Quote : | "And after you legalize it what about all the (black) people in prison for it? What about all the people that have records because of it?" |
It's not the first time this situation has ever come up and it depends on how the law legalizing weed (or anything else) is written. It could have a retro clause allowing anyone incarcerated prior to the law taking effect to file a motion for release. Any activity on your record will stay there though.
Quote : | "Legalizing marijuana will not remove the criminal element, government marijuana will not be laced like the dealers so drug dealers will still be in business." |
This is the troll part of your statement? Criminal element of what? Laced with what? What percentage of weed sold in the US is laced with something? All drug dealers lace weed?11/5/2013 8:15:00 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I had a child I'd rather they drink than start smoking. Legalizing marijuana will not remove the criminal element, government marijuana will not be laced like the dealers so drug dealers will still be in business." |
lol nice11/5/2013 8:31:02 AM |
yuffie_chan All American 4898 Posts user info edit post |
Prediction: Marijuana will be legal in all 50 states before gay marriage 11/5/2013 9:24:38 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
I'm getting comfortable with it right now. 11/5/2013 9:38:29 AM |
BubbleBobble EUPHALO.COM RIP JK 114573 Posts user info edit post |
I am comfortably out =3 11/5/2013 12:11:47 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I had a child I'd rather they drink than start smoking. Legalizing marijuana will not remove the criminal element, government marijuana will not be laced like the dealers so drug dealers will still be in business." |
I know this is a troll post.
but believe it or not theres a difference between people who smoke up twice a day, and people who occasionally like to smoke a joint with friends.
just like there are people who have a couple beers on the weekends, and those who down a bottle of vodka every other night and wrap their car around a tree
[Edited on November 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM. Reason : .]11/5/2013 12:23:15 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
twice a day
LOL 11/5/2013 12:29:12 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41758 Posts user info edit post |
OH MAN
11/5/2013 1:27:21 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42552 Posts user info edit post |
WATCH THIS MOVIE
http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/law_enforcement_opposed_to_the_war_on_drugs_2006/
Quote : | "Cops and former cops who have put in decades fighting the war on drugs speak out against prohibition." |
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NCSUHippie If it feels good 1189 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but believe it or not theres a difference between people who smoke up twice a day, and people who occasionally like to smoke a joint with friends.
just like there are people who have a couple beers on the weekends, and those who down a bottle of vodka every other night and wrap their car around a tree" |
because people who smoke up twice a day = people who down a bottle of vodka every other night? WTF?
One plus about teens/adults smoking over drinking is that you can't smoke yourself to death. ]11/5/2013 5:13:49 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Let it slide. He's on our side! 11/5/2013 5:20:38 PM |
NCSUHippie If it feels good 1189 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah, I get that. But that comparison was a bit outrageous. Grass has soooo many more benefits than alcohol. 11/5/2013 5:47:10 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42552 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.alternet.org/marijuana-miracle-5-exciting-new-discoveries-about-pot 11/16/2013 4:53:48 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
I wish people would drop the medical argument.
Yes, cannabis has effects on certain conditions and could even be said to be effective in treatment of those conditions. However, the truth is that synthetic drugs are much more effective and have less negative side effects.
I do agree it should be legalized, regulated, and taxed like alcohol and I think that it's way less harmful than drinking or smoking tobacco, but let's not kid ourselves with the medical argument. 11/16/2013 5:20:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148787 Posts user info edit post |
do you work for a pharmaceutical company? 11/16/2013 5:43:59 PM |
NCSUHippie If it feels good 1189 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm pretty sure my doctor would disagree with that.
[Edited on November 16, 2013 at 6:54 PM. Reason : with the less negative side effects part...] 11/16/2013 6:53:09 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
what he said is correct; there are much better drugs for almost every medical benefit marijuana is touted for in it's presently available form. Marijuana has many different cannabinoid chemicals present in them, and the quantities and ratios of these different cannabinoids are altered by strain and by growing conditions. There's no standardization to the ratio of different cannabinoids present in marijuana available today, and they can have very different effects both physically and mentally.
If they'd remove that stupid Schedule I status and allow biochemists to perform more testing on the individual chemicals, then we'd probably come up with medical forms of marijuana that could be standardized and taken in a measured dose. Poppy tea isn't a good medicine because it varies widely in contents and potency, but it's chemical constituents of morphine, codeine, and papaverine make excellent medications when isolated and administered in metered doses. 11/16/2013 6:55:02 PM |
TenaciousC All American 6307 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Prediction: Marijuana will be legal in all 50 states before gay marriage" |
I could see that. I predict neither will happen in my lifetime.
I always knew we'd have a black president before a woman president. At least he's got "manhood"11/16/2013 8:11:08 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
that coon ain't even black, he's a raghead 11/16/2013 8:32:58 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
#Racism 11/16/2013 10:02:19 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do you work for a pharmaceutical company?" |
No, but my last job was with the National Institutes of Health. I'm not a health professional and my views don't represent those of the NIH but it was interesting reading scientific abstracts on the subject. You can access almost all of them (that are not in progress) on pub med.11/17/2013 12:04:07 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there are much better drugs for almost every medical benefit marijuana is touted for in it's presently available form. " |
"Better" is a subjective term IMO. If MJ is sufficient at providing a medical benefit it's a tough call to say that another drug is "better" IMHO. I think Opioids are a good example of this. They're "better" at relieving pain, but if MJ is sufficient for a person's needs it would be hard to classify opioids as "better" due to the addictive properties and the propensity of opioids to cause bodily harm.
I don't smoke, but I do think MJ is a much safer alternative than a lot of the pharmaceuticals that people tend to take on a daily basis. If it is sufficient at relieving a person's symptoms I see no reason that they should be forced into the world of manufactured pharmaceuticals if they don't want to be.
[Edited on November 17, 2013 at 2:40 PM. Reason : s]11/17/2013 2:39:34 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42552 Posts user info edit post |
next 11/17/2013 8:33:12 PM |