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http://momsdemandaction.org/faces-of-courage/mom-demanding-action-susan-browder-writes-daughter-killed-abusive-husband-gun/

11/7/2013 6:17:44 AM

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If you post this story on TWW and 10 people reply you will find the love of your life.

11/7/2013 6:52:49 AM

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Yeah stupid gun. How dare you go and kill that girl and the crazy PTSD dude lugging it around.

11/7/2013 8:00:21 AM

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11/7/2013 8:01:37 AM

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another set of partyapp nudes that makes me too sad to fap

11/7/2013 8:54:03 AM

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oh snap

11/7/2013 9:00:14 AM

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do not lie

11/7/2013 9:00:45 AM

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11/7/2013 9:01:28 AM

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Oh man.
I loved that girl.

11/7/2013 9:35:15 AM

Fermat
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This happened a YEAR AGO?

Was her husband on campus blender

11/7/2013 9:47:12 AM

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"Yeah stupid gun. How dare you go and kill that girl and the crazy PTSD dude lugging it around."


Yep, he could have just as easily thrown several throwing stars and paralyzed her as she ran across the street.

11/7/2013 9:47:18 AM

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" just as easily"


11/7/2013 9:54:54 AM

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"Though Sarah was open with her parents about the challenges she was experiencing in her relationship with Kirk, neither she nor her parents ever entertained the possibility that Kirk would harm her physically."


...and there was the problem.

11/7/2013 10:14:07 AM

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...one of many

11/7/2013 10:19:29 AM

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I had nothing to do with this tragedy

Rip hot girl

Fuck Kirk

11/7/2013 10:28:55 AM

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If he had beat her head in with a baseball bat we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's both sad and pathetic and it's a big part of why the gun control crowd is such a joke.

We should focus on the fact that our country sent this kid to war and failed to give him the help he needed for the resulting PTSD and what appears to be related substance abuse.

11/7/2013 10:35:01 AM

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I kind of disagree with that a little bit. I feel that if he was diagnosed with PTSD that he should never been able to even get a gun.

Veteran or not I really don't care ...diagnosed with PTSD should trump being able to purchase weapons.

And here is where gun-control advocacy comes into play because with a better background search or whatnot maybe he would not of had a gun.

I scanned over the article and assume he was armed legally?

11/7/2013 10:42:48 AM

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^^yeah, he could have just as easily thrown the baseball bat across the street and hit her on the head and paralyzed her

11/7/2013 10:47:03 AM

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Quote :
"just as easily"


11/7/2013 10:49:25 AM

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pics or gtfo

11/7/2013 10:52:17 AM

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I agree that there's merit to limiting gun access to mentally ill folks, but that's a different discussion altogether. OP has made it clear in the past that he thinks guns should be illegal for all citizens and he set the tone in the thread title.

A deeply disturbed person who complained that he was unable to get adequate treatment for his problems killed his wife. That's incredibly sad, but I still don't see how people can blame the gun. They surely had a kitchen full of knives and plenty of other options that a physically healthy trained soldier could have used to kill someone, but this story gets focus because it involved a gun.

The end result is the same regardless. A family lost their child to violence. Taking the gun away would not have guaranteed her safety or the safety of anyone else around him. If the tables were turned and she used a gun to defend herself from him nobody would be upset about a gun being used to kill a person. People who are against gun bans would celebrate it and people who are for gun bans would conveniently ignore it. It's just sad.

[Edited on November 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM. Reason : s]

11/7/2013 10:55:40 AM

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11/7/2013 11:07:58 AM

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It related news, Bullet thinks every human being is a ninja.

11/7/2013 11:27:35 AM

GREEN JAY
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well, skack is seriously going on and on about how guns played no role since he could have killed her with a kitchen knife from across the street, so I guess everyone is a dagger-throwing ace too.

11/7/2013 11:37:28 AM

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you really not picking up on his facetiousness, eh?

11/7/2013 11:38:18 AM

GREEN JAY
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you really not picking up on his facetiousness, eh?

11/7/2013 11:40:02 AM

Skack
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Hypothetically GREEN JAY, if this man, an ex-soldier with strength and combat training on his side, were battering her to the point that she feared serious injury or death, would you be upset if she used a gun to essentially rescue herself from the situation? Or would you still say "fuck guns"? Even though that's not what happened here, it's not a far-fetched analogy. In trying to take guns away from folks like the killer, you have to accept that you're taking defenses away from many potential victims as well.

11/7/2013 2:39:27 PM

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(i was being facetious)

I'm not trying to take guns away from people, just think more needs to be done to stop gun violence.

But I bet that many, many more people are killed by anaggressor with a gun, than by the victim shooting an aggressor posing serious injury or death.

somebody posted this in soap box, i thought it was pretty good:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Lets-Talk-Limits-by-Dick-Metcalf-of-Guns-Ammo-December-2013.pdf

[Edited on November 7, 2013 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ]

11/7/2013 3:10:11 PM

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We need to focus on our mental healthcare system more than gun control.

More screening and more care for the mentally ill.

11/7/2013 3:25:11 PM

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THERE ARE OTHER DANGEROUS THINGS IN THE WORLD LIKE KNIVES AND FISTS SO WE SHOULD LET VIOLENT MEATHEAD RETARDS LIKE THIS KIRK GUY BUY AS MANY GOD DAMN GUNS AS HE FUCKING WANTS DERP DE DERP

- Skack

[Edited on November 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM. Reason : t]

[Edited on November 7, 2013 at 9:07 PM. Reason : fuck guns]

11/7/2013 9:05:51 PM

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who was she on PIC/CB?

11/7/2013 9:12:35 PM

settledown
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sassabu or something like that

11/7/2013 9:18:55 PM

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More like fuck her abusive husband. But go ahead and blame it all on the gun...

[Edited on November 7, 2013 at 10:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/7/2013 10:27:24 PM

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lol

11/7/2013 11:58:56 PM

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I BLAME IT ALL ON THE GUN

- settledown

11/8/2013 12:05:47 AM

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talkin' bout CB guns like I ain't got none

11/8/2013 12:28:48 AM

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settledown was raised to fear guns. i blame bad parenting

11/8/2013 1:23:56 AM

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you mean he was raised with a reasonable view on violence and the pointlessness of owning guns

11/8/2013 1:25:53 AM

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Not really. Fearing violence itself would make him want to even the playing ground. Guns are the great equalizer.

He was raised wrong.

11/8/2013 1:27:22 AM

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no u

11/8/2013 1:31:59 AM

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"you mean he was raised with a reasonable view on violence and the pointlessness of owning guns"


didn't know violence could be viewed as reasonable. i figured violence was the result of two or more people not being capable or able of reasoning with each other.

11/8/2013 3:12:14 AM

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there must be a reason you guys are so paranoid that you think you need to carry a weapon 24/7 to help you deal with life's up and downs

I'm guessing child abuse

11/8/2013 3:50:00 AM

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:facepam: it's fairly obvious that tww is split right down the middle of people who own guns and don't. People who have never been around guns and do not know how to treat them with respect often hate them and deem them as nothing more than killing machines. They blame them for every death some deranged person used them as part of. I can understand this, it's what the media portrays, it's what you learned from video games. There is a responsibility to owning a gun I don't think y'all would meet anyway. The truth of the matter is there are shooting sports and hunting survival techniques and yes, self defense is also a good part to guns.

The truth about everything is you know the mentally unstable gravitate towards guns so if you consider yourself mentally stable and can honestly judge responsibly when you should or should not carry a gun then I would prefer you have the ability to. The simple fact is the bad guys have guns, we see it in the papers and on the news every day I would prefer more good guys or girls have guns too.

As was mentioned above the lady could have shot her husband and saved herself.

He could have hit her with a car. Or any of a million other things. It's the desire to kill someone that's the problem not the tool used to fulfill that desire.

[Edited on November 8, 2013 at 6:29 AM. Reason : .]

11/8/2013 6:28:36 AM

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^hear hear.

11/8/2013 7:39:18 AM

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Everything about this thread is stupid, including the troll who started it.

11/8/2013 7:46:39 AM

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what kind of timid pussy do you have to be to require a weapon to feel secure enough to live your life?

11/8/2013 12:38:40 PM

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I saw some dude walk into Brueggers this morning with a handgun strapped to his waist, like he was gonna save the fucking day by killing someone when they try to rob the place.

11/8/2013 12:46:41 PM

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In case there were a bagel withoout the center hole....

11/8/2013 12:50:49 PM

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I'd rather be shot dead than own a gun

11/8/2013 1:01:48 PM

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Quote :
"it's fairly obvious that tww is split right down the middle of people who own guns and don't. People who have never been around guns and do not know how to treat them with respect often hate them and deem them as nothing more than killing machines."


i'm not sure if there's many, but there's some who own guns, but also understand that america has a gun violence problem and that needs to be addressed (which often goes hand in hand with mental illeness) and lots of people have guns that probably shouldn't

11/8/2013 2:54:18 PM

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