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jsdail
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I didn't see a thread about this (probably cause I'm a jack ass) but wow, what a big pussy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t9_ygb0LU8

11/25/2013 4:32:19 PM

wolfpack2105
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i wish society would just stop paying attention to her. You know, Lady Gaga does some outrageous stuff...but she atleast has talent. This chick has no talent whatsoever, and yet people still fawn over what stupid thing she does next.

11/25/2013 4:36:09 PM

thegoodlife3
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she actually is legitimately talented and absolutely crushed that performance last night

11/25/2013 5:11:49 PM

jbrick83
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While I think she's very talented...I don't think she crushed that performance last night. She sounded much better on SNL, IMO.

And her torso/hip area is just out of control. Looks like the joints on a Barbie doll.

11/25/2013 5:29:20 PM

BridgetSPK
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My friend made the same Barbie doll remark--said it freaked her out.

And multiple people have told me to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw

I'd already watched it though...so I assume it's getting promoted somehow. I guess I'm participating.

11/25/2013 5:34:39 PM

Fhqwhgads
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I loved her performance last night but think she did better on the EMAs a couple weeks ago

11/25/2013 5:46:18 PM

yuffie_chan
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^^I was gonna link that - she's actually legitimately talented. I almost feel bad saying it, but daaaaamn.
She's also pretty when she's wearing clothes and not orange.

11/25/2013 9:20:14 PM

BridgetSPK
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I know, fucking Jolene tore me up.

11/25/2013 9:29:24 PM

acraw
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Is it just me or her legs are bigger since the VMA performance? Maybe she has been doing squats because people were making fun of her pancake ass.

11/25/2013 9:29:33 PM

BridgetSPK
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Regardless, I hope it's the kind of thing that doesn't actually matter to anybody.

11/25/2013 9:33:33 PM

TreeTwista10
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Where does her talent rank compared to someone like Britney Spears? Christina Aguilera?

11/25/2013 11:14:06 PM

dropdeadkate
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better than britney. she can in no way touch christina talent wise

11/25/2013 11:15:50 PM

TreeTwista10
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thats about what i figured

11/25/2013 11:17:16 PM

thegoodlife3
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voice?

it's Aguilera >>>> Miley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spears

but Miley is in waaaay more control than the two of them ever were

11/25/2013 11:17:17 PM

Kickstand
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In my opinion, her vocals are a little better than Britney's, but nowhere close to Christina's. Her dancing is atrocious though.

11/25/2013 11:18:59 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^what do you mean "in control"?

[Edited on November 25, 2013 at 11:51 PM. Reason : Christina's voice is obviously much better than both of them]

11/25/2013 11:48:52 PM

thegoodlife3
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she's more media-savy and calculating than the other two ever were

and that's a good thing

11/26/2013 12:01:11 AM

TreeTwista10
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I'm not sure what that means exactly, except that she obviously gets a lot more media exposure nowadays than Spears or Aguilera do. They got plenty of coverage 8-10 years ago.

But does that make her more talented than she otherwise would be? I don't see how that would even factor in. Paris Hilton is pretty media-savvy, and talentless, for example.

11/26/2013 12:14:19 AM

thegoodlife3
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she is aware that we live in a hyper-aware, hyper-reactive culture that reacts to flashy things before actually thinking about what the flashy thing actually is

her VMA performance was talked about on the NBC Nightly News the day after it happened, for fucks sake. that's absurd

she has absolutely played the media to her benefit and is showing how ridiculous they are in 2013

nothing she has done is wild/crazier than anything any former popstar has done, but the rush to form some kind of judgment as soon as possible has played to her advantage

that and the fact that she isn't as "sexy" as they were. people are more than willing to overlook certain acts as long at the person committing those acts is super attractive

11/26/2013 12:30:40 AM

TreeTwista10
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I agree with all of that. But that just seems to be a commentary on the media nowadays, and not whatever talent she does or doesn't have as an 'artist'

To me, her music just seems kinda like manufactured pop music, and she doesn't have a voice that makes you say "wow that girl is talented"

Maybe I just don't get it



[Edited on November 26, 2013 at 12:37 AM. Reason : .]

11/26/2013 12:36:31 AM

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Unless you're in the meetings with her PR team, I don't see how you can say with any confidence that she's in more "control" of her situation than Aguilera or Spears were. Well...maybe more control than "Crazy Britney"...but that chick made all the right moves during her prime. Aguilera has her mishaps as well...but none of them rubbed a giant foam finger on their clitoris on live TV.

She's obviously garnering crazy attention with everything she does now...but I don't think she had to pull the stunts that she did to get that attention. She was already popular as fuck with her bubblegum pop shit...she didn't have to jump to Sluttly McSlutterson just to get the older crowd to take notice.

I'm not completely disagreeing with tgl3...I just think you're giving her a little too much credit. I also still think her AMA performance was a tad off. It's getting the pub because everyone was watching it. She killed it on SNL. After watching those performances and her little Jimmy Fallon bit, I was finally like..."damn...this bitch can sing."

11/26/2013 8:00:33 AM

bottombaby
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I like her music but her videos and performances are wackadoo.

11/26/2013 9:19:09 AM

y0willy0
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I fear that people may think I troll thegoodlife3 in every thread he shows up in, but god damn each and every opinion he expresses here is just abhorrent to me.

11/26/2013 10:21:51 AM

rjrumfel
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Watched the Jolene video. It's weird that was nearly a year ago. I guess if she stayed with the country route, she wouldn't have ever gotten as much attention as she has now. But country would've been a much better talent showcase for her.

11/26/2013 10:29:47 AM

jprince11
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I agree her country voice is better to a minor extent but I don't see how you'd consider that talented or great, still nasal, average range, not any redeeming characteristics but I agree with the people saying she's an evil genius with the media, most of the successful pop stars that aren't great musicians are, I mean I bet katy pery actually has a really high iq

11/26/2013 12:25:15 PM

thegoodlife3
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Quote :
"Unless you're in the meetings with her PR team, I don't see how you can say with any confidence that she's in more "control" of her situation than Aguilera or Spears were. Well...maybe more control than "Crazy Britney"...but that chick made all the right moves during her prime. Aguilera has her mishaps as well...but none of them rubbed a giant foam finger on their clitoris on live TV.

She's obviously garnering crazy attention with everything she does now...but I don't think she had to pull the stunts that she did to get that attention. She was already popular as fuck with her bubblegum pop shit...she didn't have to jump to Sluttly McSlutterson just to get the older crowd to take notice. "


because I've read pieces on her and she gets near-unanimous praise from people she's worked with outside of the music industry? she is 100% in control of her persona, which is way more tongue-in-cheek/let's fucking laugh about how ridiculous all of this is than Spears or Aguilera, who were completely packaged.

and foam finger on her clitoris? how is that even anatomically possible? you're acting as if a performer, male or female, has never grabbed their crotch while on stage before.

11/26/2013 12:46:04 PM

y0willy0
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So just to be clear are you a 9yo girl or an 11yo boy?

11/26/2013 12:48:56 PM

jbrick83
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ITT, thegoodlife3 = BubbleBobble

11/26/2013 12:53:13 PM

thegoodlife3
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when have I ever said anything about being a giant fan? I have legitimately only heard 3 of her singles (which are great pop songs, btw)

11/26/2013 1:08:04 PM

jprince11
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Quote :
"After watching those performances and her little Jimmy Fallon bit, I was finally like..."damn...this bitch can sing.""


wow I'm totally in treetwista's camp now, I thought she sounded weak as hell there

11/26/2013 1:09:25 PM

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"i wish society would just stop paying attention to her. You know, Lady Gaga does some outrageous stuff...but she atleast has talent. This chick has no talent whatsoever, and yet people still fawn over what stupid thing she does next."


yeah

she'll never have as much talent as a person who makes a generic wolfpack username with a number in it on a wolfpack message board

11/26/2013 2:06:57 PM

BridgetSPK
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I don't think anybody is suggesting that she's wildly talented. She's just more talented than folks expected.

And she is kinda weird, which bodes well for future music.

If you like pop, she's pretty sweet.

11/26/2013 2:28:47 PM

wolfpack2105
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^^Yeah, because my face and name is being plastered all over the interwebs. Give me a break. I laugh when people jump to the assumption that just because I call someone out for getting attention while not talented that all of the sudden, they think I believe I'm more talented. How does that even make sense? My guess is that you just want to be snarky and have your opinion known without really putting any substance behind it. Therefore you make some asinine comment that makes zero sense. But hey...do your thing dawg.

11/26/2013 2:39:17 PM

Bullet
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i'd like to hear a live version of "Jolene" sans production before i judge how talented her vocals are.

11/26/2013 2:46:17 PM

jsdail
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thread needs more pictures

11/26/2013 3:32:59 PM

Fhqwhgads
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6H4r1kWqSM

Dolly Parton and Miley Cyrus singing "Jolene"

11/26/2013 3:48:26 PM

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I actually liked her during her classic country/blues phase, but I suppose that wasn't a big enough of a hit for her

11/26/2013 3:56:59 PM

BubbleBobble
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speaking of "asinine"

Quote :
"11/25/2013 4:32:19 PM

You know, Lady Gaga does some outrageous stuff...but she atleast has talent."


just fuckin' sayin'

11/26/2013 4:08:44 PM

wolfpack2105
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM51qOpwcIM#t=52

Show me Miley Cyrus doing something that takes an ounce of the talent ^THAT takes and I'll shutup about it.

11/26/2013 4:12:45 PM

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this is comparing apples to oranges, I don't really know why people always want to argue "my favorite pop star is better than yours ...."

everyone likes different shit and these people got famous for something, and you can't completely dismiss that. You can never ever listen to them and not watch their performances, but I think it is asinine to declare that someone does or does not have talent based on your 'expertise', and therefore it is true.

11/26/2013 4:17:34 PM

GREEN JAY
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why not? you seem to have some expertise over whether someone's tit job is jacked up or not.


gawwwwwd you are like the worst dyke ever. what happened to sisterhood?

11/26/2013 4:48:18 PM

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such a serious turn for the topic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6DmHGYy_xk

11/26/2013 6:20:52 PM

slappy1
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wait, klatypus is a lesbian??

11/26/2013 6:25:27 PM

scotieb24
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^^ lol I'm dying

11/26/2013 6:42:05 PM

Klatypus
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Quote :
"gawwwwwd you are like the worst dyke ever. what happened to sisterhood?"





so I'm really not sure what is happening here

11/26/2013 8:13:53 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^I would not have clicked if you hadn't posted. I'm bout to watch it a dozen more times.

11/26/2013 8:18:52 PM

BubbleBobble
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Quote :
"why not? you seem to have some expertise over whether someone's tit job is jacked up or not.


gawwwwwd you are like the worst dyke ever. what happened to sisterhood?"




GREEN JAY GOIN' HAM ITT

11/26/2013 8:27:08 PM

Fhqwhgads
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OH SWEET NIBLETS

11/26/2013 8:34:55 PM

Big4Country
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What is on her left leg?

11/27/2013 1:33:03 AM

BridgetSPK
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Seriously, I'm still watching the bidness from stillrolling.

It's amazing.

11/27/2013 1:36:27 AM

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