http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/12/26/counting-down-the-top-glenn-moments-of-2013-exposing-common-core/

Common Core is the nationwide education initiative being jammed down the throats of students and parents around the United States whether we want it or not. 45 states, the District of Columbia, four territories, and the Department of Defense Education Activity have all adopted the Common Core State Standards Initiative, which is funded with money from the likes of Microsoft’s Bill Gates.

[Edited on December 26, 2013 at 11:54 PM. Reason : ]

12/26/2013 11:53:51 PM

Here's a summary of the right-wing thought process on this issue: Obama expressed his approval of Common Core, therefore it's an Obamunist plot to turn our children into slaves for socialism.

[Edited on December 27, 2013 at 12:35 AM. Reason : BTW it's an entirely state-level initiative 4 years in the making.

12/27/2013 12:34:02 AM

This seems like a Joke thread.

I'm waiting for confirmation before posting...

12/27/2013 1:18:12 AM

From my partisan joke perspective, I just think it should be the states' responsibility for education.

12/27/2013 8:21:11 AM

Lol, only Glenn Beck could find a way to shit on something so benign as this

12/27/2013 8:56:56 AM

Quote :

"I just think it should be the states' responsibility for education."

cool, because common core was created by the states (National Governors Association and Council of Chief State School Officers)

also, it allows plenty of local and state control since its not a curriculum

12/27/2013 10:48:41 AM

It isn't a curriculum yet.....it will be though. And will push standardized tests and reduce actual learning even more.

12/27/2013 11:37:10 AM

yeah curricula made by the states or districts, and standardized tests made by states or districts. all the common core does is say "here is what you should know" and lets schools decide how to do it and how to evaluate it (at whatever level the schools are controlled: district, state). it's not a curriculum or test.

its what the tea party always pretends to fight for, less federal control and more state or local input.

pro-standardization groups are opposed to common core because it is not standardization.

EDIT:
I don't know if I support Common Core, and there is a big reason why the Tea party wouldn't, but so far the only opposition has been based on incorrect information so I'm going to wait for them to do some reading before posting it

I will point out my favorite opposition to it, because I think its hilarious:
lots of people opposed to Common Core point to the poor performance on new common core aligned tests. these people just want kids to have high scores, they don't give a shit about what the scores actually mean. poor tests on common core materials mean that the students don't know shit, and haven't, not that they are suddenly 70% dumber than the year before. They are afraid that students will "give up" or be "disheartened" because only 30% passed, and that's a hilarious response.


[Edited on December 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .]

12/27/2013 1:03:38 PM

read this:
http://www.city-journal.org/2013/23_4_diane-ravitch.html

Quote :

"The Closing of Diane Ravitch’s Mind A once-great education scholar rejects everything she previously believed. Ravitch sees school reform today as a plot by private interests to destroy public education. OZIER MUHAMMAD/THE NEW YORK TIMES/REDUX Ravitch sees school reform today as a plot by private interests to destroy public education. Education writer and activist Diane Ravitch is very angry these days. She’s convinced herself and her followers that elements of the American corporate elite are working to destroy the nation’s public schools, the indispensable institution that has held our republic together for more than two centuries. According to Ravitch, these fake reformers—the “billionaire boys’ club,” as she calls them—are driven by greed: after destroying the schools and stigmatizing hardworking teachers, she says, they want to privatize education and reap the profits from the new market."

12/27/2013 1:28:28 PM

wow you people. test scores are not lvalid with the common core. test scores are rarely valid for comparison anyways unless you have standardized education.

common core gets the government out of the way and lists the skill students should have. districts, schools, departments, AND TEACHERS then figure out how they are going to teach those concepts.

i could teach the same skill 10 different ways and get 10 different scores on 10 different tests. the real world cannot be summed up by a question on a test.

common core is not meant to be tested against and probably will not (unless the district is just stupid, which i don't doubt)

12/27/2013 3:56:20 PM

Prior to the Tea Party's involvement, most criticism of Common Core came from leftist teacher unions who were against testing. I therefore find it rather humorous how the two groups are now unlikely allies in the crusade against Common Core.

1/3/2014 3:59:27 PM

Quote :

"leftist teacher unions who were against testing having their incompetence exposed."

[Edited on January 3, 2014 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

1/3/2014 5:00:06 PM

1/3/2014 6:15:34 PM

says the teacher

1/3/2014 6:22:54 PM

...

1/3/2014 6:40:52 PM

see teachers don't know anything about teaching there just in it for the money

1/3/2014 7:29:00 PM

I'm not sure what is implied by "says the teacher". As if his expertise and profession somehow invalidates his ability to make commentary on said profession.

1/3/2014 8:35:28 PM

What would an engineer know about engineering anyway?

1/7/2014 11:43:53 AM

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/420755108926730240
@neiltyson: Some educators, who are quick to say "These students just don't want to learn”, should instead be saying "I suck at my job”.

If it is an educators job to educate, is it acceptable for them to give up on educating?

1/7/2014 10:33:16 PM

I don't know too many teachers who do give up on educating...

1/7/2014 10:46:23 PM

I knew plenty that gave up on educating. They didn't leave their jobs at teachers though.

FWIW, I think I experienced more teachers like this at the college level.

1/7/2014 10:57:35 PM

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/12/18/arkansas-mom-destroys-common-core-in-four-powerful-minutes-89152

1/12/2014 2:04:10 PM

that's the same way that multiplication and division has been taught since at least before i learned it, that's how you teach the concept. memorizing tables doesn't teach anyone what multiplication and division means, grouping things like that teaches what it means.

the only issue i see is that its in 4th grade, and i can't remember when I was learning multiplication and division, but that seems late. however, since she was only upset about the method and not the material, i suspect that she was comparing it to multiplication and division already being taught in 4th grade.

1/12/2014 2:11:25 PM

i learned basic multiplication and division in second grade. i remember that because my teacher tried to tell me that anything multiplied by 0 was zero, but also anything divided by 0 was 0. i told her it should be infinity but she gave me detention for talking back.

long division in 4th grade. i remember because i had chicken pox in 4th grade and had to teach long division to myself while i was out.

[Edited on January 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ]

1/12/2014 2:14:25 PM

that's what i thought too, but she didn't care that it was being taught at that level only that it was being taught in that way. which makes me think that its already being taught at that level there, at least to some students, who are now being taught what multiplication and division actually means.

[Edited on January 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2014 2:21:37 PM

i was taught multiplication in 4th grade. all they taught us was to memorize the tables.

[Edited on January 12, 2014 at 3:20 PM. Reason : i remember it clearly. backwards-ass wayne co. schools.]

1/12/2014 3:19:12 PM

Quote :

"i learned basic multiplication and division in second grade. i remember that because my teacher tried to tell me that anything multiplied by 0 was zero, but also anything divided by 0 was 0. i told her it should be infinity but she gave me detention for talking back. "

You were both wrong.

1/12/2014 3:51:32 PM

(i was in second grade yet closer than she was.)

1/12/2014 10:05:50 PM

Quote :

"i was taught multiplication in 4th grade. all they taught us was to memorize the tables. "

Same exact here. We got candy for every set of 10 we memorized.

However, I absolutely hated memorizing anything, so I would just do it by doing various adding tricks/whatever.

1/12/2014 11:17:57 PM

I was taught that grouping strategy, which they started in 2nd grade. That kind of pinko-liberal-hippie instruction is probably why I'm a radical socialist now; it was all just brainwashing disguised as math.

[Edited on January 12, 2014 at 11:21 PM. Reason : communists love grouping]

1/12/2014 11:19:57 PM

http://www.wral.com/lawmakers-propose-dumping-common-core-standards-in-nc/13591055/

4/24/2014 3:31:09 PM

why would the academic standards review commission be in the Dept. of Admin and not DPI?

4/24/2014 3:42:48 PM

^^ hilarious that the lawmakers can't cite any practical academic reasons for not liking the standards other than "it's from the federal government." Seems dumb to setup a new committee to revise the standards, when we already have state gov institutions to look at these things, seems even dumber to use a legislative bill to eliminate the standards, rather than having the experts in DPI, who are trained in instructional issues, review the federal standards and determine what should/could change (something they've likely already done).

This is just pandering, these politicians just want to score some political points by looking like they're opposing big government.

4/24/2014 3:48:30 PM

x-posted

The House passed the bill to repeal common core in NC

Just In: House passes bill repealing Common Core academic standards http://t.co/PKuYJgKGWJ #breaking

— WRAL NEWS in NC (@WRAL) June 4, 2014

6/4/2014 6:13:12 PM

too bad even Premies can't post scripts

I remember the good ol' days of CB and TCW

6/5/2014 9:13:11 AM

If NC government is against something it has to be good. These are the folks that brought back cursive writing and multiplication tables for fuck's sake.

6/5/2014 1:42:01 PM

But common core will turn our children into homosexuals!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/florida-lawmaker-common-core-turn-kids-gay

6/5/2014 1:49:22 PM

so when people worry that something will turn someone gay -- against their will -- do they believe they were just fortunate/blessed enough to dodge the [gay] bullet? There but for the grace of God and whatnot?

[Edited on June 5, 2014 at 2:06 PM. Reason : seriously wtf]

6/5/2014 2:03:03 PM

i think so. keep in mind that since they also believe that homosexuality is a choice, these dudes live their lives knowing that at any point they could just up and decide to be gay and suck a dick and totally enjoy it.

6/5/2014 2:04:32 PM

I worry that Florida Man is how the rest of the nation views NC.

6/5/2014 2:09:41 PM

well, it wouldn't be too off with our current GA

6/5/2014 2:39:26 PM

http://www.wral.com/senate-approves-version-of-common-core-repeal-plan/13704539/

One of these two will likely move forward. I doubt McCrory will veto though.

6/6/2014 7:25:15 AM

One answer to the problem posed in this article is to spend more resources actually teaching the teachers how to implement the standards, as should have been done for the 1989 NCTM standards that revolutionized the teaching of mathematics...in countries other than the US: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html

Quote :

"To cure our innumeracy, we will have to accept that the traditional approach we take to teaching math — the one that can be mind-numbing, but also comfortingly familiar — does not work. We will have to come to see math not as a list of rules to be memorized but as a way of looking at the world that really makes sense. The other shift Americans will have to make extends beyond just math. Across all school subjects, teachers receive a pale imitation of the preparation, support and tools they need. And across all subjects, the neglect shows in students’ work. In addition to misunderstanding math, American students also, on average, write weakly, read poorly, think unscientifically and grasp history only superficially."

8/1/2014 9:11:48 PM

yeah that's crap.

8/1/2014 11:41:06 PM