EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
http://bgr.com/2014/01/14/net-neutrality-court-ruling/
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Any semblance of net neutrality in the United States is as good as dead. The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia on Tuesday struck down the Federal Communications Commission’s 2010 order that imposed network neutrality regulations on wireline broadband services. The ruling is a major victory for telecom and cable companies who have fought all net neutrality restrictions vociferously for years.
The original FCC order said that wireline ISPs ”shall not block lawful content, applications, services or non-harmful devices, subject to reasonable network management” while also mandating that ISPs “shall not unreasonably discriminate in transmitting lawful traffic over a consumer’s broadband Internet access service.”
In its ruling against the FCC’s rules, the court said that such restrictions are not needed in part because consumers have a choice in which ISP they use.
“Without broadband provider market power, consumers, of course, have options,” the court writes. “They can go to another broadband provider if they want to reach particular edge providers or if their connections to particular edge providers have been degraded.”
For anyone who lives in a market with limited competition for home broadband services, the court does acknowledge that you might have some “difficulty” in finding another provider but says that it’s still not reason enough to restrict what an ISP can do when it comes to managing its own traffic.
“To be sure, some difficulty switching broadband providers is certainly a factor that might contribute to a firm’s having market power, but that itself is not market power,” the court asserts. “There are many industries in which switching between competitors is not instantly achieved, but those industries may still be heavily disciplined by competitive forces because consumers will switch unless there are real barriers.”
In fact, the court actually argues that the United States is overflowing with competitive options in the home broadband market and cites Google Fiber — which is currently available in only three markets — as evidence that competition is robust.
“But there is no evidence in the record suggesting that broadband providers are carving up territory or avoiding head-to-head competition,” the court writes. “At least anecdotally, the opposite seems to be true. Google has now entered the broadband market as a direct competitor.”
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Goodnight, sweet prince
[Edited on January 14, 2014 at 11:11 AM. Reason : jjj] 1/14/2014 11:00:22 AM
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Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://questionmarkers.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/53-a.gif)
good night, sweet prince...
1/14/2014 11:04:17 AM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
time to short NFLX 1/14/2014 11:05:30 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In its ruling against the FCC’s rules, the court said that such restrictions are not needed in part because consumers have a choice in which ISP they use." |
this part is bullshit 1/14/2014 11:06:04 AM
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Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
no kidding, guess they haven't heard of the cable monopoly 1/14/2014 11:06:52 AM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Explain what this means to me as an individual. 1/14/2014 11:09:00 AM
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PaulISdead All American 8835 Posts user info edit post |
damn myspace is gonna be expensive
![](http://tech.mn/files/2010/08/net-neutrality.jpg) 1/14/2014 11:12:44 AM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
If your ISP doesn't like TWW, they can block it for you. 1/14/2014 11:13:15 AM
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BigMan157 no u 103355 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In fact, the court actually argues that the United States is overflowing with competitive options in the home broadband market and cites Google Fiber — which is currently available in only three markets — as evidence that competition is robust." |
lol 1/14/2014 11:13:18 AM
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Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://printmediacentr.com/files/2010/12/2010-12-15-net_neutrality_loses_whatif.jpg)
hyperbole sure, but that was the infographic going around when the shit first started getting stirred. I'll link a video mellocj forwarded me a couple years ago that's amazingly interesting and touches on what it actually means in terms of ILECs and oligopolies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KxCsjbrjko
[Edited on January 14, 2014 at 11:19 AM. Reason : ]
1/14/2014 11:15:19 AM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
I predict nationwide riots if timewarner tries to charge people an extra $20 to surf over to http://www.pornhub.com 1/14/2014 11:20:55 AM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28390 Posts user info edit post |
Dude I can't even get broadband internet where I live. I don't give a shit about this. 1/14/2014 1:15:10 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
![](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRP0fuA5FjCTOGidgoG_TgMHj7JljPulF3Y1Vf-7-xF1ClYOV8AQQ)
1/14/2014 1:38:44 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
Charge more for WoW internet access 1/14/2014 4:06:50 PM
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ncsufanalum All American 579 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks Obama. What else is on the list for this guy to royally fuck up before he leaves office? 1/14/2014 7:26:22 PM
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settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
we're fucked
but hopefully TWW will be in the cheapest tier 1/14/2014 7:42:40 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
No way man, TWW is clearly in the realm of fringe websites 1/14/2014 8:05:57 PM
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Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
Missed this AMA earlier.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1v7kdg/net_neutrality_is_dead_josh_levy_from_freepress/ 1/14/2014 8:13:18 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^It's the DC Circuit, not Obama
anyway we can still hold out hope for the Supremes 1/14/2014 8:19:54 PM
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richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
We were born into an era of freedom. We will die in a police state. 1/14/2014 9:19:04 PM
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AVON All American 4770 Posts user info edit post |
This blows, there is literally 1 broadband ISP where I live... And that's why I pay $60/month for 6megs down, and 756k up DSL 1/14/2014 9:57:31 PM
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goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
^^lol are you one of those dumb fucking cunts who actually believes that 1/14/2014 10:09:00 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53243 Posts user info edit post |
^ with what part of that statement do you disagree? Is it your contention that we weren't born in a free state, or is it that we aren't headed towards a police state? Because the latter certainly is supported by government actions since, at the latest, the last 15 years. 1/14/2014 11:01:54 PM
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moron All American 34419 Posts user info edit post |
We're more free now than we've ever been, we have been getting freeer overtime.
Women can vote blacks can vote, government can't discriminate, prohibition is not a thing, the top marginal tax rate isn't 90%, etc.
The US was a shithole, before the past few recent decades. Thank God for progressivism making it a better place to live. 1/14/2014 11:10:17 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53243 Posts user info edit post |
And the gov't has essentially all but repealed any real right to privacy, has said it can hold you indefinitely without a trial, can kill you without a trial by declaring you a terrorist... And "prohibition" isn't a thing? Really?
We have minor trappings of liberty while the real important parts are being removed from us daily. Great, I can vote; so can the North Koreans.] 1/14/2014 11:50:28 PM
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NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
i'm free because i get to choose between shit sandwich and giant douche 1/15/2014 12:04:10 AM
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settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
republicans and libertarians hate net neutrality 1/15/2014 12:18:15 AM
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moron All American 34419 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And the gov't has essentially all but repealed any real right to privacy" |
Lol, what do you mean? You talking about the NSA thing? You realize they've been around for decades and have always been spying on Americans? You realize they intercepted every single telegram in the country at one point? Time will tell if the recent revelations, of a long line of them, will actually mean anything.
And we put Japanese in internment camps back in the days, amidst the government nationalizing manufacturing plants to make tanks and planes and boats. I'm pretty sure things have gotten better in that respect too.
I can't believe anyone buys into republican and tea party bullshit that things were better "back in the days," let alone you burro. Things were objectively worse for women and minorities, and mostly worse for poor white people. The only group which things were objectively better for "back in the days" are the excessively wealthy. 1/15/2014 12:38:24 AM
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nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only group which things were objectively better for "back in the days" are the excessively wealthy white men." |
Those are the good ole days they want to return to. 1/15/2014 10:15:42 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
This decision just strengthens my opinion that we need special court for technical issues, the judge obviously doesn't know shit about the issue. 1/15/2014 10:31:02 AM
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LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
^Agree. Technologies are moving so fast legislative cannot keep up at all. 1/15/2014 10:52:27 AM
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BigMan157 no u 103355 Posts user info edit post |
my grandson told me about this "googly fibbing". have you guys heard about that? anyway, case dismissed. 1/15/2014 11:01:10 AM
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Wraith All American 27278 Posts user info edit post |
oh man. An extra $5 to go to digg.com? What an outrage! 1/15/2014 11:13:32 AM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
Do you know how to upload to ....facebook?
Do you know how to upload to ....facebook? 1/15/2014 11:22:25 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
chinga la supreme court. 1/15/2014 1:14:11 PM
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GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
^ 1/15/2014 1:14:36 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
I don't feel that this is getting enough attention
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/22/5335626/netflix-will-provoke-customer-action-if-isps-violate-net-neutrality 1/22/2014 9:45:08 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 23, 2014 at 12:30 AM. Reason : eh]
1/23/2014 12:18:47 AM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/23/technology/open-internet/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Doesn't look good. Looks like internet "fast lanes" might be on the way, with restriction being on ISPs not being able to block websites of competitors, and the have to provide internet service at a "reasonable commercially acceptable" speed. 4/23/2014 8:29:12 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
It's ok. Most Americans have a plethora of ISPs to choose from for their home Internet needs, in part thanks to the FCC saying, "hey, this doesn't look like phone service at all, so lets call it more like cable and regulate it as such, because that makes sense". So most Americans can easily just change their ISP if it is not meeting their needs.] 4/23/2014 9:07:13 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
From Golo: Quote : | "net neutrality is a fancy term for allowing the federal gov't control our internet." |
http://www.wral.com/republican-senate-candidates-say-they-would-not-back-net-neutrality/13601638/ 4/30/2014 8:01:58 AM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
It's going to be a hot fucking summer, G. 5/1/2014 9:34:19 AM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fcc-net-neutrality-20140425,0,71382.story
"A new proposal from the head of the Federal Communications Commission would allow network owners such as AT&T Inc. to levy extra charges on Netflix Inc. and other online video purveyors for speedier delivery of content."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-fcc-net-neutrality-wheeler-20140430,0,7001552.story
Tom Wheeler: "we will not allow some companies to force Internet users into a slow lane so that others with special privileges can have superior service."
What's more likely here: that Wheeler is a crook or a naive moron? 5/1/2014 9:39:37 AM
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EMCE balls deep 89856 Posts user info edit post |
I think that Wheeler is eyeing his job opportunities with Comcast or Verizon, after he leaves his current job as the FCC head. And given what he is doing today by way of fucking the consumer over in favor of the telcoms, honestly, his future is looking promising. 5/1/2014 9:44:27 AM
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V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What's more likely here: that Wheeler is a crook or a naive moron?" |
I think it's more likely that AT&T is one of the most greedy companies in the world. 5/1/2014 9:45:51 AM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
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5/1/2014 9:46:25 AM
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Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
As soon as net neutrality was struck down everyone had to know this was coming. It won't be long before they start charging you extra to use the popular services. All the mergers and acquisitions have been to corner the market so as to eliminate competition so you have no choice as well once it starts. Bad road we are headed down if they start letting shit like this slide. 5/1/2014 9:59:55 AM
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V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
the internet will become a channel lineup
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Would you like to access Google services today for only $19.95 $15.95 until 11:59 PM on 05/01/14! That's a savings of 20%!] 5/1/2014 10:07:25 AM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
what are the odds that some company will offer an open internet service at a reasonable cost? google? 5/1/2014 10:08:42 AM
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