Reynolds high school


What about the children?

6/10/2014 11:58:46 AM

Just saw it on the news. They will give me more information as it comes in.

6/10/2014 12:03:37 PM

Thanks Elise, let me know what they tell you!

6/10/2014 12:05:36 PM

Sooner or later the money machine has to fall to the will of the people. It happened to big tobacco, and it is going to happen to weapons. There is just too much bad press and shit going on everyday for it not to cause a shitstorm.

6/10/2014 12:09:45 PM

I don't think there were any deaths. Just some reported injuries.

False alarm. Guns are safe.

6/10/2014 12:13:36 PM

Shooter confirmed dead. No word on victims.

6/10/2014 12:18:36 PM

I wonder if he was an organ donor

6/10/2014 12:22:46 PM

Do you need a new kidney?

6/10/2014 12:23:30 PM

No victims as far as anyone knows.

6/10/2014 12:30:39 PM

Nah

6/10/2014 12:30:41 PM

1 victim

6/10/2014 1:16:34 PM

6/10/2014 1:20:17 PM

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/28/why-does-america-lead-the-world-in-school-shootings/

We lead the world in school shootings, why would you want to take this away from us? Why do you hate aMerica?

6/10/2014 1:23:12 PM

i guess its time for the news media to turn another shooter into a celebrity and publish their thoughts for free

6/10/2014 3:05:41 PM

This is the 74th school shooting since Sandy Hook.

6/10/2014 3:36:04 PM

That's practically 1 per week

https://twitter.com/umairh/status/476447334923239426

6/10/2014 3:52:45 PM

Since when is 1 shooting death and the death of the killer a breaking national headline?

I remember when that was a blurb on the local news. It's still a blurb on the local news when it's black people involved.

6/10/2014 6:09:34 PM

I bet it has to do with how these stories develop. First, when the story breaks, no one knows that there was only one victim. By the time details start flowing, it is already a national headline.


That, and I think school shootings have just been sensationalized by this point.

6/10/2014 6:23:31 PM

It's the vaccines

6/10/2014 6:55:01 PM

we need to ban youtube so these fucks can quit monologuing into a camera

6/10/2014 7:20:43 PM

Quote :

"Bulletproof blankets designed to shield kids during school shootings"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bulletproof-blankets-designed-shield-kids-school-shootings-tornadoes-article-1.1823308

6/11/2014 2:20:10 AM

http://www.wral.com/charges-expected-in-seattle-campus-shooting/13716357/

Gee, another psychotic mass shooter.....its like everything I wrote is accurate.

6/11/2014 2:36:59 AM

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" Quote : "Bulletproof blankets designed to shield kids during school shootings" http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bulletproof-blankets-designed-shield-kids-school-shootings-tornadoes-article-1.1823308"

AS SEEN ON TV

6/11/2014 7:16:02 AM

guys, the only thing that can prevent this is more guns.

6/11/2014 7:38:31 AM

well gun control certainly won't prevent it

6/11/2014 8:42:51 AM

Yeah, we need some other countries to try that first, see if it works or not.

6/11/2014 11:23:30 AM

or we could make it so mass shootings are not a ticket to fame and celebrity, the news should cover the event but not the perpetrator

6/11/2014 11:29:41 AM

The thing is, the public wants to know about the perpetrator. How could we prevent the media from giving the public what they want, since that's what keeps them in business? And if the media didn't report it, someone on twitter would.

6/11/2014 11:34:02 AM

We need to ban twitter

6/11/2014 11:39:47 AM

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" How could we prevent the media from giving the public what they want, since that's what keeps them in business? "

they voluntarily stopped reporting names for suicides when the CDC asked them to, and it ended the trend of suicide clusters. mass shootings are the new suicide, why only kill yourself if you can also kill some other people and have the media air your grievances for you? I see no reason to expect that the news media would not follow the CDC guidelines if asked, they have before.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00031539.htm

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"GENERAL CONCERNS AND RECOMMENDATIONS The following concerns and recommendations should be reviewed and understood by health professionals, suicidologists, public officials, and others who provide information for reporting of suicide: Suicide is often newsworthy, and it will probably be reported. The mission of a news organization is to report to the public information on events in the community. If a suicide is considered newsworthy, it will probably be reported. Health-care providers should realize that efforts to prevent news coverage may not be effective, and their goal should be to assist news professionals in their efforts toward responsible and accurate reporting. "No comment" is not a productive response to media representatives who are covering a suicide story. Refusing to speak with the media does not prevent coverage of a suicide; rather, it precludes an opportunity to influence what will be contained in the report. Nevertheless, public officials should not feel obligated to provide an immediate answer to difficult questions. They should, however, be prepared to provide a reasonable timetable for giving such answers or be able to direct the media to someone who can provide the answers. All parties should understand that a scientific basis exists for concern that news coverage of suicide may contribute to the causation of suicide. Efforts by persons trying to minimize suicide contagion are easily misin- terpreted. Health officials must take the time to explain the carefully established, scientific basis for their concern about suicide contagion and how the potential for contagion can be reduced by responsible reporting. Some characteristics of news coverage of suicide may contribute to contagion, and other characteristics may help prevent suicide. Clinicians and researchers acknowledge that it is not news coverage of suicide per se, but certain types of news coverage, that promote contagion. Persons concerned with preventing suicide contagion should be aware that certain characteristics of news coverage, rather than news coverage itself, should be avoided. Health professionals or other public officials should not try to tell reporters what to report or how to write the news regarding suicide. If the nature and apparent mechanisms of suicide contagion are under- stood, the news media are more likely to present the news in a manner that minimizes the likelihood of such contagion. Instead of dictating what should be reported, public officials should explain the potential for suicide contagion associated with certain types of reports and should suggest ways to minimize the risk for contagion (see Appendix). Public officials and the news media should carefully consider what is to be said and reported regarding suicide. Reporters generally present the information that they are given. Impromptu comments about a suicide by a public official can result in harmful news coverage. Given the potential risks, public officials and the media should seek to minimize these risks by carefully considering what is to be said and reported regarding suicide. ASPECTS OF NEWS COVERAGE THAT CAN PROMOTE SUICIDE CONTAGION Clinicians, researchers, and other health professionals at the workshop agreed that to minimize the likelihood of suicide contagion, reporting should be concise and factual. Although scientific research in this area is not complete, workshop participants believed that the likelihood of suicide contagion may be increased by the following actions: Presenting simplistic explanations for suicide. Suicide is never the result of a single factor or event, but rather results from a complex interaction of many factors and usually involves a history of psychosocial problems (12). Public officials and the media should carefully explain that the final precipitating event was not the only cause of a given suicide. Most persons who have committed suicide have had a history of problems that may not have been acknowledged during the acute aftermath of the suicide. Cataloguing the problems that could have played a causative role in a suicide is not necessary, but acknowledgment of these problems is recommended. Engaging in repetitive, ongoing, or excessive reporting of suicide in the news. Repetitive and ongoing coverage, or prominent coverage, of a suicide tends to promote and maintain a preoccupation with suicide among at-risk persons, especially among persons 15-24 years of age. This preoccupation appears to be associated with suicide contagion. Information presented to the media should include the association between such coverage and the potential for suicide contagion. Public officials and media representatives should discuss alternative approaches for coverage of newsworthy suicide stories. Providing sensational coverage of suicide. By its nature, news coverage of a suicidal event tends to heighten the general public's preoccupation with suicide. This reaction is also believed to be associated with contagion and the development of suicide clusters. Public officials can help minimize sensationalism by limiting, as much as possible, morbid details in their public discussions of suicide. News media professionals should attempt to decrease the prominence of the news report and avoid the use of dramatic photographs related to the suicide (e.g., photographs of the funeral, the deceased person's bedroom, and the site of the suicide). Reporting "how-to" descriptions of suicide. Describing technical details about the method of suicide is undesirable. For example, reporting that a person died from carbon monoxide poisoning may not be harmful; however, providing details of the mechanism and procedures used to complete the suicide may facilitate imitation of the suicidal behavior by other at-risk persons. Presenting suicide as a tool for accomplishing certain ends. Suicide is usually a rare act of a troubled or depressed person. Presen- tation of suicide as a means of coping with personal problems (e.g., the break-up of a relationship or retaliation against parental discipline) may suggest suicide as a potential coping mechanism to at-risk persons. Although such factors often seem to trigger a suicidal act, other psychopathological problems are almost always involved. If suicide is presented as an effective means for accomplishing specific ends, it may be perceived by a potentially suicidal person as an attractive solution. Glorifying suicide or persons who commit suicide. News coverage is less likely to contribute to suicide contagion when reports of community expressions of grief (e.g., public eulogies, flying flags at half-mast, and erecting permanent public memorials) are minimized. Such actions may contribute to suicide contagion by suggesting to susceptible persons that society is honoring the suicidal behavior of the deceased person, rather than mourning the person's death. Focusing on the suicide completer's positive characteristics. Empathy for family and friends often leads to a focus on reporting the positive aspects of a suicide completer's life. For example, friends or teachers may be quoted as saying the deceased person "was a great kid" or "had a bright future," and they avoid mentioning the troubles and problems that the deceased person experienced. As a result, statements venerating the deceased person are often reported in the news. However, if the suicide completer's problems are not acknowledged in the presence of these laudatory statements, suicidal behavior may appear attractive to other at-risk persons -- especially those who rarely receive positive reinforcement for desirable behaviors. CONCLUSION In addition to recognizing the types of news coverage that can promote suicide contagion, the workshop participants strongly agreed that reporting of suicide can have several direct benefits. Specifically, community efforts to address this problem can be strengthened by news coverage that describes the help and support available in a community, explains how to identify persons at high risk for suicide, or presents information about risk factors for suicide. An ongoing dialogue between news media professionals and health and other public officials is the key to facilitating the reporting of this information."

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM. Reason : guidelines]

6/11/2014 11:42:02 AM

Most people don't care if some nobody commits suicide by him/herself, unless it's local. But the national public wants to know about somebody who goes on a shooting spree. I don't think the two are really comparable when it comes to media coverage.

6/11/2014 11:58:00 AM

Now people don't care about suicides, but that used to not be true and it was a problem. One suicide would trigger more, it's the same with mass shootings.

if you sensationalize mass shootings you are encouraging others to do the same

6/11/2014 12:21:30 PM

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"if you sensationalize mass shootings you are encouraging others to do the same"

I don't disagree with you at all. I just wonder if the media would voluntarily stop covering the perpetrator, and I doubt that would lead to the public caring less about who and why the perpetrator slaughtered a bunch of people.

6/11/2014 12:24:12 PM

it doesn't matter what the public wants to know, only how it is being reported. the news voluntarily changed their coverage of suicides, which were very sensational and something viewers wanted to see it, so I see no reason to think that they wouldn't change how they cover mass suicides.

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2014 12:33:45 PM

Mass shootings and suicides are different things.

If a school is on lock down, this is relevant, because it lets parents know they may need to leave work, and also lets people know they need to avoid that area, or if they are in the area, to report any suspicious activity.

It's probably not possible for local news to not cover a mass shooting, but I could see how an news media ethos not to cover these things nationally could have an impact.

But the same principle applies to any crime really, the copycat phenomena is not isolated to shootings i'd guess.

6/11/2014 12:45:16 PM

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"it doesn't matter what the public wants to know, only how it is being reported."

The media is a business that caters to the public. And with the reality-tv mindset that the majority of the public possess, sensationalism sells.

6/11/2014 12:54:30 PM

^^its almost like you guys are actively trying to not understand the point. read the guidelines, you can report and cover the event and not do those things that will encourage others to commit mass shootings. Covering the event is fine, sensationalizing it and covering the perpetrator is not.

^suicide clusters were an issue in the 90's, 24 news networks and reality TV existed in the 90's, sensationalism sold in the 90's. Despite all of this, the media voluntarily complied with guidelines for how to cover mass suicides so I see no reason why they wouldn't do the same now.

again, and I'm not sure at this point how to better explain something so simple, its okay to report on and cover mass shootings or suicides but the media should follow the guidelines and report in a way that won't encourage others to do the same thing.

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2014 1:05:13 PM

You don't seem to understand that I understand and agree with your premise (i told you I agree), and in an ideal world, that would be great. But we live in reality, and I don't see it happening.

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"the media voluntarily complied with guidelines for how to cover mass suicides so I see no reason why they wouldn't do the same now"

Then why haven't they? Is it simply a matter of the CDC not asking them yet?

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM. Reason : ]

6/11/2014 1:13:40 PM

They haven't been asked

6/11/2014 2:31:25 PM

Are they allowed by congress to even look into the issue, because it relates to guns...?

6/11/2014 2:49:26 PM

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"The shooter was carrying an AR-15 rifle, a semiautomatic handgun, a large knife and nine loaded magazines capable of holding hundreds of bullets, Anderson said. In addition, he was wearing a vest used to carry ammunition and other items, as well as a helmet with a camouflage design. “Given the weapons and the amount of ammunition the shooter was carrying, the early notification and law enforcement response was critical,” Anderson said. The guns that Padgett was carrying were all taken from his family’s home, Anderson said. “The weapons had been secured, but he defeated the security measures,” Anderson said."

Seems like he comes from a family of gun nuts.

6/11/2014 6:20:09 PM

Going back to the conversation about naming the shooter, here's one journalist's take on the matter:

http://www.poynter.org/how-tos/newsgathering-storytelling/255421/what-harry-potter-teaches-about-naming-killers/

I couldn't care less about Harry Potter, but the message is apt, and the conclusion gets to the heart of the matter:

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"While we can understand the instinct to not name – or sympathize with the stated purpose of not encouraging imitators – there is more weight to the counter-argument: that we owe it to the public to try to answer that most difficult of journalistic questions “why,” and we cannot possibly find an answer without beginning with the “who,” and the first piece of meaningful evidence of character is likely to be a name."

6/12/2014 11:24:02 AM

But we all already know why:

1. Mental health is a fucking joke in this country.
2. Access to guns.
3. Profit Mass and/or school shootings.

6/12/2014 11:28:46 AM

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"This is the 74th school shooting since Sandy Hook."

Debunked.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/380108/lying-about-school-shootings-charles-c-w-cooke

It's only the 74th school shooting if you consider "a shooting within a mile of a school" to be a "school shooting"

6/12/2014 11:55:36 PM

And we all know those are perfectly acceptable.

6/13/2014 12:07:01 AM

They aren't wonderful things, but spinning them as somehow equivalent or even remotely similar to what happened at Newtown is disingenuous

6/13/2014 5:15:24 PM

its not a school shooting until it pegs gun prices

therefore newtown was the last school shooting

6/13/2014 7:06:48 PM

OH THANK GOD I CAN REST SO MUCH BETTER NOW KNOWING THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN SEVEN MASS SHOOTING AT SCHOOLS SINCE SANDY HOOK THAT IS A MUCH BETTER NUMBER WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH SEVEN SCHOOL MASS SHOOTINGS RIGHT

6/13/2014 7:08:24 PM

compared to 74? sure. If you want to push some kind of change, don't lie while you do it

6/13/2014 10:20:27 PM