ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
If the United States entered into WWIII what would you do? Enlist? Nothing? Stockpile? Do you have a go bag? Leave for a neutral country? 7/23/2014 10:36:23 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
blame obama
for real though I keep a cache of junk silver coins just in case. When the economy tanks, they go up in value big time. Though a war would probably help economy so idk. I guess if the zombies came, then I would be able to use my silver.
[Edited on July 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM. Reason : 123456789] 7/23/2014 10:41:33 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I'd access the situation... like who's fighting who and where. 7/23/2014 11:22:34 AM |
Dr Pepper All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be pissed. 7/23/2014 11:26:18 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
The idea came from the current Russia/Ukraine stuff, so one of these scenarios:
1) Russia/China/North Korea vs US/Canada/EU/Japan with a European theater and an Asian theater moving towards the US. You can also assume nukes will be used.
2) Shit is hitting the fan and it's clear we're on the bring of ^ scenario but nothing has happened yet.
3) Nukes have demolished a good portion of Europe and have hit major US cities and a ground force is coming.
or make up your own scenario, you know, whatever.
[Edited on July 23, 2014 at 11:42 AM. Reason : /] 7/23/2014 11:39:32 AM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
Go to Canada. 7/23/2014 11:41:41 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Theoretically I'd gather a group of people and go live in the mountain wilderness... but I'm not sure how feasible that would be. 7/23/2014 11:50:35 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Madison County NC. No one would think to bomb or invade it.
Hide on the mountain. 7/23/2014 12:29:30 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Use my guns to take steviewonder's silver cache. 7/23/2014 12:32:17 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
ON
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BRING 7/23/2014 1:24:42 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
ACCESS
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SITUATION 7/23/2014 1:57:59 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Hide at the K-Mart on Western Blvd....no one ever thinks to go there. 7/23/2014 2:58:44 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8777 Posts user info edit post |
ask tww what to do 7/23/2014 3:58:30 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
same thing i do every day pinky 7/23/2014 4:16:31 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
head to Mitch's and barricade the door downstairs... oh wait that's zombies. 7/23/2014 4:48:01 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Avoid major cities and head north to Canada (being I am an hour from the border). 7/23/2014 7:37:17 PM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
pot prices will raises hippies will revolt don't go asheville mnts. 7/23/2014 8:15:04 PM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
deploy 7/23/2014 10:00:02 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Nukes have demolished " |
If nuclear weapons have been used we're all dead.
And the US won't have ground forces invading us without us using the nukes we have, so we're all dead.
So I guess my answer is die. The genie is out of the bottle.7/23/2014 11:25:18 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
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spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
I'd take advantage of all of my skills (software engineering, Simpsons knowledge, etc.) and get killed very, very quickly. 7/24/2014 12:08:13 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
i'd probably try to bang ukrainian chicks. 7/24/2014 12:17:09 AM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
if the draft returns, try to flee to a neutral country 7/24/2014 4:23:07 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
First of all no one would ever use a nuke in any realistic war. You are crazy if you think we would nuke russia over ukraine or even poland but ill play because there are all lot of myths that needs clearing. Wars will be fought by nuclear mations without nukes as long as no ones homeland is invaded. This is exactly why the weat doesnt want iran to get a nuke. Look at north korea.
1. Not every nuke is tsar bomba. Most of them wont incinerate entire cities. 2. Us population is low density. It is impossible for russia and china together to nuke enough area to take everyone out. The math has been sone and its not even close by many orders of magnitude. 3. Defense. Large nukes travel on large slow missiles or planes. Both technology from the 50s that we could easily sh [ot down. 4. Shleters. Every city in the world has underground fallout shleters. 5. Dangerous radioactive fallout only lingers around for weeks. Not years like most people believe.
Nukes are not what your parents thought they were. 7/24/2014 7:24:20 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Also the only kind of draft well have in the futurwis a draft from your bank account. Hackers and programmers may be drafted into ecombat though. That will be the new front. 7/24/2014 7:28:51 AM |
Dr Pepper All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
I know this is a srs thread, but I feel like the answer lies within the songs of the Deltron3030 albums. 7/24/2014 7:35:02 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
I'm assuming each successive misspelling is a chain of trolling 7/24/2014 8:05:48 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
plz to embed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trzUn42ongs 7/24/2014 8:42:19 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
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JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Flee for the mountains/wilderness with supplies, ideally with friends/family, for a few weeks Sneak back into town and try to find other family/friends that may be imprisoned Gather more supplies/weapons/females Avenge deaths of loved ones by creating a resistance force Start small, then slowly work up to bigger tasks, like taking back over said town Do enough so that the US can eventually prevail Have plaque on rock w/ American flag dedicated to the resistance group 7/24/2014 9:44:49 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I'd do what most people do.
Bitch about it on the internet
carry on with my life, glad that the war isn't on our soil.
If the war comes to our soil, I'll make every effort to move to another country where the war isn't happening.
I refuse to directly participate in war. It's bad enough my tax dollars fund that bullshit. 7/24/2014 10:21:09 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I just switched to samsumg and the spell correct doesnt woek as I expect. The mispellings arent vad enough to slow down any native reader so keep them. 7/24/2014 11:43:00 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Flee for the mountains/wilderness with supplies, ideally with friends/family, for a few weeks Sneak back into town and try to find other family/friends that may be imprisoned Gather more supplies/weapons/females Avenge deaths of loved ones by creating a resistance force Start small, then slowly work up to bigger tasks, like taking back over said town Do enough so that the US can eventually prevail Have plaque on rock w/ American flag dedicated to the resistance group" |
that's a pretty good plan. name your group after your high school mascot too.7/24/2014 12:51:19 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
Enjoy the unity among Americans, assuming people aren't divided like during the Korean War.
Hope I get drafted so I could help directly with the war effort and break the monotony of daily 9 to 5. I wouldn't just enlist though. I'd just get a shit job compared to seasoned military men. 7/24/2014 6:10:45 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
By unity you mean economic depression 7/25/2014 12:29:05 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'd probably try to join the office of naval research. 7/25/2014 1:52:08 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
LOL at Earl's comments. Shameless trolling. 7/25/2014 3:35:25 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "simonn gottfriend chicken 28552 Posts user info edit post
i'd probably try to join the office of naval research." |
I'd hire ya.7/25/2014 7:26:32 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
http://m.sciencefocus.com/qa/what-would-happen-if-all-nuclear-bombs-were-detonated 7/25/2014 11:14:51 PM |
AntiMnifesto All American 1870 Posts user info edit post |
Hope that my husband and I are too old to get drafted. He's a computer engineer, and I'm a nurse, so you know one of us would be going. Ugh.
If not drafted, I don't know, join a leftist survivalist group? Hole up in the mountains? 7/26/2014 4:36:54 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
How does the draft work these days? Is it just ALL men within draft age? Or do they do like 17-22 year olds first or something since they are probably in better physical condition than a 35 year old and probably don't have as many skills?
I'm an aerospace engineer so I feel my skills would be better used in research and development stuff than fighting on a battlefield. 7/28/2014 10:46:59 AM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
Mexico will side with Russia and take back Texas to California. Call it! 7/28/2014 10:58:56 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1. Not every nuke is tsar bomba. Most of them wont incinerate entire cities. 2. Us population is low density. It is impossible for russia and china together to nuke enough area to take everyone out. The math has been sone and its not even close by many orders of magnitude. 3. Defense. Large nukes travel on large slow missiles or planes. Both technology from the 50s that we could easily sh [ot down. 4. Shleters. Every city in the world has underground fallout shleters. 5. Dangerous radioactive fallout only lingers around for weeks. Not years like most people believe.
Nukes are not what your parents thought they were." |
Not all of this is entirely full of shit.
If you build a list of priority targets for a foreign nuclear force to hit, it's not entirely unlikely that a majority of the US would survive. People assume that the first targets would be major population centers but that's not true. The first targets would be our own nuclear arsenal.
There are approximately 450 Minutemen III missiles stationed over a very large area in Wyoming, North Dakota, and Montana. You can literally go to Wikipedia and get a map of the silo fields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/341st_Missile_Wing#mediaviewer/File:341st_Missile_Wing_-_MAF.png). Each silo is positioned so that, in theory, one warhead can't take out multiple silos, if they can even be disabled from a nuclear blast.
And that's just the land based missiles. Other targets would be our nuclear arsenals that aren't already on subs in Kings Bay, GA and Kitsap-Bangor, Washington for the Navy. Additionally, the Air Force keeps a healthy supply of warheads on hand for deployment on cruise missiles and bombers. I can't remember what the breakdown for distribution is off the top of my head but it's safe to assume they're not all in one place.
We also have a couple hundred B61s forward deployed at bases in Germany, Belgium, the UK, Italy, and I think 2 others.
Additionally, there would be a need to disable our production capabilities so we can't make more nukes, so that means destroying facilities in Los Alamos, Livermore, Sandia, Oak Ridge, Amarillo, Paducah, Kansan City, and Aiken. None of these facilities are small.
Finally, since we have close military allies that also have nuclear capabilities, we can assume they would also be a target in an initial strike.
Russia has 1800 strategically operational warheads (supposedly), and China has ~200-300 (supposedly). Even in the extremely unlikely scenario where they attack together, they would never fire all of them at once, because you don't deplete your entire nuclear stockpile at one time. Since some sites will be targeted by multiple warheads to guarantee redundancy in the face of countermeasures, it's seems likely that there won't be many warheads left to lob into major population centers.
As for fallout, *shrug*. We as a species have detonated a shitload (300+) of nuclear weapons in our atmosphere and for the most part we're fine (exception being folks directly downrange from fallout plumes). That's not an excuse to keep doing it carte blance, but to say the fallout is going to kill us all is a bit of a misrepresentation.7/28/2014 12:02:21 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
eat all the ice cream in my freezer, that shit wont last long during a power outage. 7/28/2014 12:54:16 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Grab the AR and start poppin' commies. 7/28/2014 6:28:24 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
I wasn't saying what Earl posted was necessarily untrue, it's just he's trying to derail a thread and turn it into the soap box.
It's hypothetical, I didn't base the scenarios on real geopolitical/economic considerations or the technology of nuclear weapons. I also said, feel free to create your own scenario and say how you'd react. I'm not going to address what he said point by point because that just feeds into it.
I just meant "shit is hitting the fan and it's clear the war machine is coming, what would you do?" 7/29/2014 9:38:20 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry. Dodnt know people posted fantasy in the lounge.
Next time you should title it "what would you do if the aoacolypse broke out?"
[Edited on July 29, 2014 at 9:44 AM. Reason : turn it into a chit chat thread] 7/29/2014 9:43:09 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
id have to kill people and take their food
i dont have any 7/29/2014 11:21:09 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
continue my life as is. protest if drafted, get thrown in jail, etc. 7/30/2014 2:29:28 AM |