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"American Sniper is an upcoming American biographical action film directed by Clint Eastwood and written by Jason Dean Hall. It is based on Chris Kyle's autobiography American Sniper. The film stars Bradley Cooper, Sienna Miller, Luke Grimes, Kyle Gallner, Sam Jaeger, Jake McDorman and Cory Hardrict. Principal photography began on March 31, 2014 in Los Angeles. The film is scheduled to receive a limited release on December 25, 2014, before opening wide on January 16, 2015."

Looks good.

10/3/2014 1:47:57 PM

Using science to kill other humans: The movie

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10/3/2014 1:55:07 PM

can. not. wait.

i read the book and very much enjoyed it. just watching the trailer had me on edge.

10/3/2014 1:59:06 PM

I'm tired of films that glorify American Imperialism

10/3/2014 2:07:16 PM

dang was hoping for another sequel

10/3/2014 2:23:09 PM

Muricah!


[Edited on October 3, 2014 at 2:55 PM. Reason : s]

10/3/2014 2:55:24 PM

looks to me like it's at least trying to address the uglier side of things. could be interesting.

10/3/2014 3:00:01 PM

As long as this movie shows both sides of war im all for it.

Trailer looks great.

10/3/2014 6:10:45 PM

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10/3/2014 6:31:09 PM

his accent wasn't so steady in that trailer. Hopefully it is not annoying.


On the other hand, what are some other good sniper books out there?

10/4/2014 3:54:19 AM

IBT Alice and Chains the Rooster

10/4/2014 7:21:16 AM

'Shooter'

Sniper attached to the invasion of Iraq. Very interesting.

10/4/2014 3:37:06 PM

my fav sniper book is war of the rats. But the movie that was based off of it (enemy at the gate) was a load of shit.

10/4/2014 10:13:26 PM

10/6/2014 8:48:19 PM

I <3 snipers. I'm happy to have run across this thread and learned about all this great sniper media.

Thanks, guys.

10/6/2014 8:53:42 PM

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"I'm tired of films that glorify American Imperialism"

How does this trailer communicate that this movie will be about that in any way?

10/6/2014 9:00:48 PM

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"dang was hoping for another sequel"

there actually was one that came out this year

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3776288/reference

[Edited on October 6, 2014 at 10:09 PM. Reason : $$$]

10/6/2014 10:07:21 PM

oh i will be watching that immediately.

10/7/2014 8:20:02 AM

this movie is on the internets now

my takeaway from this film: if this film is anything like the book, then Chris Kyle was fucking in love with himself.

this film sucked, Chris Kyle seems like an egotistical asshole

1/8/2015 2:43:18 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=chris+kyle+fake

1/8/2015 5:56:25 PM

^well that's a buzz kill. and shitty if true

1/9/2015 11:08:47 AM

saw this in my FB feed recently.

http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle

it's a blog, so grain of salt, but it seems pretty well sourced.

1/9/2015 11:41:44 AM

i watched this last night and enjoyed the movie until the last 30 seconds and then i wanted to throw the remote at the tv - i recommend just turning the tv off just before the end and wondering what might have happened will be better

1/9/2015 11:44:00 AM

^well, that ruins this movie for me then. I absolutely can't stand it when movies end shittily.

1/9/2015 1:14:21 PM

^^^he spends a lot of time on the no chemical weapons thing which has been proven to actually exist and been covered up by the government to some degree. this guy has a story he wants to tell the way he wants to tell it. after getting that far i stopped. just a hit piece on a dead guy

1/9/2015 10:03:26 PM

That's because he claims they are WMDs, they are the WMDs, the weapons we went into Iraq to find.

That's not true, its a misconception that gets repeated, and it's fair to call out someone for making that claim.

[Edited on January 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2015 10:12:55 PM

lol wut

1/9/2015 10:54:40 PM

Chris Kyle is a proven liar.

I don't really care to see this movie, especially with Bradley Cooper's fucking accent.

1/9/2015 11:51:06 PM

^^ go google it, stop being as dumb as Chris Kyle

1/10/2015 11:19:41 AM

Chris Kyle claimed in his book that they found chemical stockpiles for WMDs in Iraq, so that would be a huge deviation from the original story.

With regard to what dtownral is saying about no WMDs in Iraq, that's only a half truth. We never found any functional devices, but Wikileaks did reveal chemical stockpiles being found for the sole purpose of making chemical weapons. They also hauled out over 500 tons of yellowcake uranium from an old nuke lab that had been looted. unfortunately, the locals in some cases thought the barrels of uranium would be good for storing water in, so there's probably an entire village out there that died a slow horrible death.

1/10/2015 2:04:18 PM

We actually did find functional chemical weapons and the government did actually try to sweep them under the rug. The soldiers who were exposed to them are still being denied benefits and follow up care they are due, it's a real problem.

But those weren't the WMD's in question, they aren't what we went to war about. We knew about those chemical weapons and actually helped Iraq obtain them (they date back to the Iran-Iraq war) but they aren't enough to be strategically significant (i.e. they suck for soldiers exposed to them, but no threat to the US) and aren't why we went to war.

Chris Kyle, Fox News-types, and apparently goalielax are all pushing the misconception that these are the WMD's we went looking for and that these justified the war or made Cheney not a war criminal. They aren't and they don't.

[Edited on January 10, 2015 at 5:25 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2015 5:24:50 PM

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"i watched this last night and enjoyed the movie until the last 30 seconds and then i wanted to throw the remote at the tv - i recommend just turning the tv off just before the end and wondering what might have happened will be better "

Huh you do know its a true story right.....

1/10/2015 7:34:07 PM

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"TYPICAL MILITARY PROPAGANDA"

1/10/2015 11:19:00 PM

^^^You don't think chemical weapons can devastate populations like bombs can? Chemical weapons are WMD's, just like nuclear weapons are. A virus can be a WMD. I think you are confused about what a WMD is. I don't disagree that the people of the U.S. were mislead to believe that WMD's are nukes and we believed Iraq was proliferating nuclear weapons. A nuclear weapon is basically a chemical weapon that just blows up a lot of people in close range, and then spreads out disease.

1/11/2015 11:16:11 PM

look, idiots, the chemical weapons that we found are not a strategic threat (per the military and experts), we knew about them, and they are not the WMD's that we went to war about. Finding them does not justify going to war, they are not why we went, no amount of claiming so makes it true.

I don't know how to make that more simple for you, stop watching Fox News

1/12/2015 9:23:29 AM

^

1/12/2015 9:07:14 PM

Saw it today.... great movie, very intense, and it moved fast.

I went in knowing the general story, but not certain I would enjoy the movie. I'm sure it will finish among top 3 for Best Picture, if it doesn't win it.

1/18/2015 8:35:04 PM

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" I'm sure it will finish among top 3 for Best Picture"

How does that work exactly?

1/18/2015 9:03:52 PM

Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

1/18/2015 9:48:55 PM

This guy comes off as a 15 year old with his completely bullshit stories to hype himself up. And then people blame PTSD for his self aggrandizing lies ignoring that it is far more likely that he has been a giant piece of shit his entire life. It just so happens that he was a good shot.

1/18/2015 9:51:11 PM

^ You mean real human beings are not all good or all bad? Quality post

1/18/2015 10:43:52 PM

I'm not saying he had bad qualities. I'm saying he had loads of them and was a generally shitty person. The fact that you are ignoring the countless number of people who want to canonize this chode for being such an amazing human being is great.

But go ahead, it's cool that people worship those who tell unbelievable (and by that, I mean you shouldn't fucking believe it) stories like sniping 30 innocent people from the superdome.

[Edited on January 18, 2015 at 11:09 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2015 11:07:09 PM

Even if I accept your first hand knowledge of his personal shortcomings, I see no problem separating that from his noteworthy and laudable accomplishments as a soldier.

On a separate note, this is a movie not a documentary. It was made for entertainment not educational purposes. It is not supposed to be 100% true.

1/18/2015 11:20:44 PM

It's a movie based on his book, which has been proven to have many non factual parts.

1/18/2015 11:23:19 PM

Yes we have established that he either lied/embellished/told "war stories" and that makes him a "giant piece of shit"

My point is that I can acknowledge his failures as a person and at the same time celebrate his accomplishments (2 Silver Stars and 5 Bronze Stars) all the while enjoying what was a great movie.

1/18/2015 11:33:21 PM

I love that this movie is making so many liberal progressives upset. They are desperately trying to ruin the character of a guy who lived his life serving his county and his family, and died serving the veteran community. And these loonies are trying to pick apart his book for inaccuracies.

1/18/2015 11:54:15 PM

His book told stories that catered to the delusional fantasies of the majority of people that would read his book. I just assumed the fiction in the book was put there for entertainment reasons.

I don't know anything about Chris Kyle, but I had the opportunity to meet his friend/fellow SEAL Sniper/medic Kevin Lacz once. Kevin was an incredibly nice person and had some pretty cool stories, and he taught me more about shooting in 8 hours than I'd ever learned in my entire life. I was shocked when I saw Kevin playing himself in the movie; apparently Clint Eastwood brought him on as a consultant and ended up having him act as well.

1/18/2015 11:58:38 PM

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"I love that this movie is making so many liberal progressives upset. They are desperately trying to ruin the character of a guy who lived his life serving his county and his family, and died serving the veteran community. And these loonies are trying to pick apart his book for inaccuracies."

In fairness, there are a lot of inaccuracies and embellishments.

But, there's also a lot of truth in there, too; in order to have a confirmed kill, you have to have a witness present. 160 of his 255 claimed kills had the confirming witnesses required, and that's impressive any way you cut it. Tales of his heroism were not solely confined to his stories either. The dude had balls, no doubt. More than his detractors, for certain.

The amount of vitriol some throw at the guy is astounding, though. I was personally not in favor of the Iraq war, but the way some folks are attacking him is childish and pretty disgusting, especially in the name of partisan politics in a current political climate where both sides of the aisle are largely represented by complete pieces of shit of lesser character than how they attempt to portray Chris Kyle.

Some folks put their "team" politics above all else, but they're also individuals who are never taken seriously, and are generally craving attention by their over the top and inflammatory statements. Classic attention whore type stuff.

1/19/2015 12:36:15 AM

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"In fairness, there are a lot of inaccuracies and embellishments. "

If only he was alive, I'd love to grill him on each and every inaccuracy and embellishment.

1/19/2015 1:02:54 AM

i'm not sure what party politics have to do with seeing that this guy was obviously obsessed with himself and loved to make up stories

1/19/2015 8:38:36 AM