seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Man, it's kinda of a pain especially with meat. Will try to buy 'natural' as a second choice, conventional as a third choice, and essentially avoid GMOs whenever possible. This is more of an experiment and not a 'I'm better than you' snob move. I really want to see what all the 'buzz' is all about. Please insert tips here.
8/2/2015 1:00:11 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
good, you'll avoid all those harmful GMOs and toxins 8/2/2015 1:01:40 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25466 Posts user info edit post |
i've always been of the opinion that you should eat whatever you want - i'm not gonna preach about you choose or choose not to consume. but, in general, the organic craze is silly to me. then again, i am biased. i grew up on our family farm (not organic) and have maybe a different perspective than others on this issue.
[Edited on August 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM. Reason : anyways, good luck!] 8/2/2015 1:27:27 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89759 Posts user info edit post |
How was life growing up on a farm? 8/2/2015 1:44:20 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
Good for you man, I want to do it as well once I have a job.
BTW, this is what you can expect to happen to your body within 2-3 weeks:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7244000 8/2/2015 1:44:30 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
How the hell is it a pain. Its a simple as changing your grocery store. 8/2/2015 1:47:58 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
And your budget
By the way "natural" doesn't mean jack shit 8/2/2015 1:53:26 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.clarkhoward.com/5-label-tricks-make-you-think-youre-eating-healthy
^^ prob don't even have to do that. 8/2/2015 2:36:08 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Natural implies non-gmo but toxins and fertilizers were used. 8/2/2015 2:46:56 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
might want to read up on this before the internets ridicule you for your beliefs
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/01/26/10-studies-proving-gmos-are-harmful-not-if-science-matters/ 8/2/2015 2:51:39 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Haha.
Now, tell me, why should I care about that?
Anyway, I am not scared about eating GMOs, I just want to see if I can tell a difference if I try to go all hippie with my eating habits.
And to further clarify I have degree training and working knowledge of genetically modified organisms so I am not a 'Republican' about it, I know facts.
[Edited on August 2, 2015 at 3:46 PM. Reason : /] 8/2/2015 3:41:15 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
I would read all of this, but I can't stand reddit's format.
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/3b6mr4/science_ama_series_im_fred_perlak_a_long_time/ 8/2/2015 7:21:25 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "essentially avoid GMOs whenever possible" |
why you scared then, dawg?8/2/2015 9:48:44 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
jajajajaja 8/2/2015 10:07:54 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
is your degree from a university? jw 8/2/2015 10:13:33 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
No. 8/2/2015 10:14:55 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I would enjoy this more if you didn't tell anyone and just did it. 8/3/2015 7:44:34 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Oh tell me about, but I need some support haha. Know what I'm saying? 8/3/2015 8:18:06 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43406 Posts user info edit post |
You'll definitely notice a difference...
in your wallet. Otherwise, not so much. 8/3/2015 9:23:53 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
I eat "good" stuff for the most part. I can tell you my 2+ wipe poops have decreased significantly since doing so. 8/3/2015 9:33:39 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
ibtbegummies 8/3/2015 10:06:35 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27792 Posts user info edit post |
this thread makes me laugh and at the same time. 8/3/2015 3:11:02 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Well, so far so good. It's not expensive as people make it out to be. You just have to be willing to cook. And there is a lot of gimmicky stuff out there, but for the most part it will change your eating habits. And by that I mean you'll eat less overall. I've lost 6 pounds since I started this. I'd recommend trying to eat this way for a few months to see what happens. 8/10/2015 2:18:14 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
Losing weight has nothing to do with organic. You would have still lost weight if you had eaten the same stuff but not organic. What matters is that you are cooking from scratch and not eating shit.
See 5th post here to see the benefits you are getting.
BTW, how did you lose 6 pounds in 8 days? We're just stuffing yourself with burgers and pizza everyday before you went organic? 8/10/2015 2:29:18 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
pair these with your organic food if you really want to see benefits:
8/10/2015 2:34:59 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
^ I always wondered about those. Of course it is BS, but since they advertise them turning a brown color, do they actually turn brown? If so, is it something in the pad that turns brown upon contact with moisture overnight? I mean, they are easily available, so it can't be hard to test. So if they didnt turn brown, I could get my money back, right? 8/10/2015 2:37:44 PM |
LivinProof78 All American 49373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ Natural implies non-gmo but toxins and fertilizers were used." |
if that's what you think, then you started this entire escapade off TOTALLY wrong...8/10/2015 2:39:11 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ Natural implies non-gmo but toxins and fertilizers were used." |
no, it's literally not a regulated term so it doesn't mean anything.
gusher fruit snacks can be all natural. healthy things can be all natural. don't make any assumptions from it good or bad.
[Edited on August 10, 2015 at 2:49 PM. Reason : .]8/10/2015 2:42:36 PM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
I urge you all to visit http://www.gmoanswers.com
Excellent resource that provides science based answers from world-renowned scientists and experts. 8/10/2015 2:48:25 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Haha the last several posts make me laugh.
Classic - 'oh I got to learn him something'
HAHAHA
[Edited on August 10, 2015 at 3:26 PM. Reason : /] 8/10/2015 3:22:56 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Please insert tips here." |
-seedless
[Edited on August 10, 2015 at 3:39 PM. Reason : or were you talking about taking dicks?]8/10/2015 3:38:53 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Post your thetan levels so we can see the change. 8/10/2015 3:50:43 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
if you eat junk food now and switch to organic junk food, the only weight you'll lose is in your wallet.
If you eat more lean protein and veggies, and reduce sugar/starch, you'll burn fat, and it doesn't matter if it's organic or not.
What you get by buying organic is subscribing to the elitist lifestyle message they promote. The vast majority of the purported benefits of organic foods are nothing more than attempts in scaring people into expensive food choices.
On one hand, I'm down with the notion of organic foods as a tax on people who fall into the naturalistic fallacy trap. But on the other hand, it trickles down to middle class and economically challenged families that forego other opportunities because they feed their families boutique produce and boutique processed foods out of fear.
[Edited on August 10, 2015 at 3:54 PM. Reason : .] 8/10/2015 3:53:46 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, this keeping getting better. Thanks guys. 8/10/2015 4:05:11 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27792 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Natural implies non-gmo but toxins and fertilizers were used." |
i hope you don't think that organic means "toxin and fertilizer free". because organic foods get as much or more of those things than conventional/GMO plants.8/10/2015 7:14:39 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25466 Posts user info edit post |
wtf is a toxin 8/10/2015 8:09:39 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxin 8/10/2015 9:02:02 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I'm kinda on the same page. I read a couple reviews and switched to Stoli. 8/10/2015 9:09:47 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Too many buzzwords in here. How will organic affect my gluten allergy that I most certainly have. 8/10/2015 9:50:20 PM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
organic foods still use pesticides and all that shit. most times there's literally no difference in the quality of the food you're just paying more for it. have fun with that.
GMO's aren't harmful at all. in fact good luck finding food that has never been genetically modified ever as we've been doing it since the beginning of agriculture.
as someone who works in the poultry/meat industry, anyone who eats meat that was never given antibiotics is a fucking moron the nth degree. you couldn't pay me to eat antibiotic free meat. especially poultry. 8/11/2015 11:06:37 AM |
Bullet All American 28346 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "organic foods still use pesticides and all that shit. " |
what are you basing that assertion on? i grow vegetables, and i don't use pesticides and all that shit.8/11/2015 11:13:27 AM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "anyone who eats meat that was never given antibiotics is a fucking moron the nth degree " |
yeah, if it makes the chickens healthier, it should do the same for me right8/11/2015 11:16:29 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^certain synthetics are allowed under the national organic program, but the claim that they still use "all that shit" is dumb http://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic/national-list
I buy organic produce for the "dirty dozen"
[Edited on August 11, 2015 at 11:20 AM. Reason : .] 8/11/2015 11:17:09 AM |
Bullet All American 28346 Posts user info edit post |
I was unfamiliar with the "dirty dozen"
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ALB00035/The-Dirty-Dozen-Foods-You-Should-Always-Buy-Organic.html 8/11/2015 11:22:56 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
ddk's post is mostly nonsense. 8/11/2015 11:34:49 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the group that released the dirty dozen list (environmental working group) has it's issues, but I think that list is from USDA sampling results. 8/11/2015 11:36:32 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25466 Posts user info edit post |
^the pesticide residues are from USDA sampling. the pesticide residues that were measured were also extremely low and way below the chronic reference doses.
Quote : | "They compared the amount of pesticides on each of the Dirty Dozen foods to the chronic reference dose, which is the maximum amount that it's okay to have if you are eating that food every day of your life. This level, just to be safe, is one hundred times less than the amount that experimental animals were able to consume with no effects. It's a pretty big safety margin. So how many of the Dirty Dozen exceeded this extremely conservative chronic reference dose? None:
All pesticide exposure estimates were well below established chronic reference doses (RfDs). Only one of the 120 exposure estimates exceeded 1% of the RfD (methamidophos on bell peppers at 2% of the RfD), and only seven exposure estimates (5.8 percent) exceeded 0.1% of the RfD. Three quarters of the pesticide/commodity combinations demonstrated exposure estimates below 0.01% of the RfD (corresponding to exposures one million times below chronic No Observable Adverse Effect Levels from animal toxicology studies), and 40.8% had exposure estimates below 0.001% of the RfD." |
http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-you-shouldnt-buy-organic-based-on-the-dirty-dozen-16891908228/11/2015 1:22:40 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
^ it adds up, it is cumulative. you eat throughout your life, and while at any given time you are ingesting a small quantity, over your life they could add up to a dangerous amount. 8/11/2015 1:43:47 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25466 Posts user info edit post |
right ^ but the dose they are referring to takes that into consideration, or am i reading this wrong?
Quote : | "chronic reference dose, which is the maximum amount that it's okay to have if you are eating that food every day of your life. This level, just to be safe, is one hundred times less than the amount that experimental animals were able to consume with no effects." |
[Edited on August 11, 2015 at 1:51 PM. Reason : d]8/11/2015 1:50:45 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit post |
OK, missed that.
But still, I would rather not have those chemicals in my body if I can help it, of course, at a reasonable price. 8/11/2015 1:54:27 PM |