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EMCE
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what do you think?

This administration has already basically said "hey... I'm just going to not look at you. If you smoke some reefer, I didn't see it."

8/7/2015 4:07:26 PM

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lol

8/7/2015 4:08:40 PM

ShinAntonio
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Unlikely... I'm more worried the next administration is going reverse course and bring the hammer down on states where it's legal.

[Edited on August 7, 2015 at 4:09 PM. Reason : i don't get what the pic's for]

8/7/2015 4:09:05 PM

wolfdawg4
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The seal is obviously on some good stuff.

8/7/2015 4:18:30 PM

ncsuallday
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I wouldn't be surprised if Obama rescheduled it or federally decriminalized it before he leaves office.

Hillary probably won't mess with it. Sanders would push to legalize it.

Regardless, more states will legalize it for medical/recreational and eventually it's just going to be up to the states. When it does become a state right to decide, I'm not sure where NC will fall on it. Pretty much every major city would be for it but all the counties in between would probably vote against it (look at all the dry counties in NC still).

8/7/2015 4:26:50 PM

justinh524
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i hope they don't. i don't want to smell nasty ass weed smoke all the time.

8/7/2015 4:55:47 PM

Mtan Man214
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If Obama doesn't I doubt anyone would in their first term.

8/7/2015 5:22:43 PM

rjrumfel
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With all the shit wrong right now, I hope any administration doesn't waste time with it. Not until term 2.

8/7/2015 5:42:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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Trump will legalize it because people smoke and get the munchies so more people will buy Trump Steaks

8/7/2015 5:45:27 PM

HUR
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"Unlikely... I'm more worried the next administration is going reverse course and bring the hammer down on states where it's legal."


I can see the West Coast with Colorado succeeding if this happens.....

I had a friend at the DEA tell me that the directors out here will dismiss all but the most blantant pot distributors because they would get minimal help from local law enforcement during the investigation on any MARIJUANA related case and often the federal judge will throw the case out.

[Edited on August 7, 2015 at 11:32 PM. Reason : A]

8/7/2015 11:25:46 PM

bassjunkie
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That seal found true happiness

8/8/2015 12:35:46 AM

beatsunc
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feds dont have the authority to ban weed anyway. they had to have a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol. where is the weed amendment?

8/8/2015 5:32:56 AM

PaulISdead
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"feds dont have the authority to ban weed anyway. they had to have a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol. where is the weed amendment?"


this has to be a troll

[Edited on August 8, 2015 at 7:12 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2015 7:11:42 AM

beatsunc
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^plz to show me where in constitution it says the fed govt gets to decide what plants people get to grow and ingest. its an obvious 10th amendment issue

8/8/2015 8:53:14 AM

NeuseRvrRat
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The feds can regulate anything with the commerce clause

8/8/2015 9:37:21 AM

PaulISdead
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^^U.S. Const. art. I., ยง 8.

see

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-84/pdf/STATUTE-84-Pg1236.pdf

[Edited on August 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2015 9:59:44 AM

TerdFerguson
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I thinks it's the Dem secret weapon for turnout in 2016. If, for whatever reason, voters don't seem very motivated to get out, they'll dangle reclassification, or money for medical research, or whatever.

8/8/2015 10:23:31 AM

HUR
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How is it a secret weapon? Every Californian, Oregonian, new yorker etc can vote Democrat yet a GOP can still win the electoral vote. See the civil war

8/8/2015 11:32:33 AM

TerdFerguson
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The last few election cycles have shown that the democrat's biggest hurdle is voter turnout for a whole host of offices. Dangling MJ reform I think would be especially motivating among the unlikely to vote crowd (Obama coalition, etc) It also plays nicely into the "backward GOP" vs "forward-looking Dems" story line, a very distinct separation between the parties on what is becoming a popular issue.

The trick I think is to announce it relatively close to the election, so people don't get bored with it, there won't be a lot of analysis and second guessing, etc.

8/8/2015 12:46:35 PM

beatsunc
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^i doubt Hilliary will be pro weed in 2016, hell she was against gay marriage in 2008.

8/8/2015 3:32:41 PM

TerdFerguson
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She'll be pro-weed if she thinks it increases her chance of winning by even 1%, at a minimum she'll hedge with some kind of medical MJ reform.

Granted I'm not a political consultant or anything. That's just the way I read the tea leaves.

8/8/2015 6:21:16 PM

Kurtis636
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Fuck no she won't. Hilary is super mainstream and will be getting big donations from police unions, the private prison industry, federal labor unions, etc.

There will be zero interest in marijuana legalization from a Clinton presidency.

8/9/2015 1:09:10 AM

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"How is it a secret weapon? Every Californian, Oregonian, new yorker etc can vote Democrat yet a GOP can still win the electoral vote. See the civil war"


The is stupid on so many levels it's hard to pick a place to begin.

8/9/2015 1:29:53 AM

HUR
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Lolz did you fail us history class before you joined al sharpton's white guilt ancillary corp for the struggle against the "man".

Maybe you did not learn how the electoral college works where a candidate can lose the popular vote and still win the election or where an entire region can vote against a candidate and they still win. Unfortunately the GOP draws a lot of votes by appealing to dumb yokels with talks of Jesus, pro life, immigrants tuk'er jerbs, and spreading fear of the terrorists around every corner.

8/9/2015 2:49:33 AM

HUR
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#AllLivesMatter

8/9/2015 2:57:22 AM

Dentaldamn
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Weed should be legal

8/9/2015 3:02:15 PM

HUR
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It is here

8/9/2015 4:34:10 PM

Dentaldamn
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Well I'm on the other side on the country.

8/9/2015 9:15:21 PM

BubbleBobble
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lol @ pic

8/10/2015 1:26:37 AM

GrumpyGOP
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" I'm more worried the next administration is going reverse course and bring the hammer down on states where it's legal."


I'm not too concerned. Doesn't seem to me like drawing a hard line on marijuana would get you many votes. There are plenty of people who want to keep pot illegal, yeah, but how many of them would call that their most important issue? How many would put it in the top five? My guess is, not very many.

But threatening to drop the hammer could conceivably lose votes in places like Colorado. It's already a purple state, and it seems pretty fond of its marijuana rules. And a lot of people who like marijuana would consider this one of their more important issues.

Put another way, your grandpa is concerned about the economy, social security, repealing everything Obama did, Mexicans, and terrorism, and then several other things down the list you might find "the drugs." Whereas your college roommate Stacer is concerned about legalized weed, and then maybe student debt relief and increasing the minimum wage so he can afford to buy more weed.

Aside from all of that, don't polls now indicate that a straight up majority of adults now favor legalization? I'm sure the numbers look very different when you take out people who don't vote, but that's a hard fact to ignore.

We probably won't go to straight up federal legalization in the next presidential term (various international obligations make that one more tricky), but I'll be shocked if it isn't de-facto legal inside of ten, fifteen years. (I'll be shocked if cigarettes aren't illegal in roughly the same timeframe, as well)

8/10/2015 6:17:59 AM

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