please help a good cause

please refer to the post in the lounge message_topic.aspx?topic=646301


ps seriously do not ever declaw a cat

11/3/2015 3:17:03 PM

do you still live with krullum?

11/3/2015 7:08:24 PM

he died

11/4/2015 12:53:07 PM

LOL

11/4/2015 1:04:02 PM

I would like to remind you, yes I crossposted, in part for this reason. It is a contentious issue for some. THIS is where you can troll

k thanks

[Edited on November 4, 2015 at 2:15 PM. Reason : durm]

11/4/2015 2:14:54 PM

what's wrong with declawing a cat

I'm asking because I don't know, not rhetorically

oh ok I saw your other thread :3

11/4/2015 8:00:10 PM

thank you for reading up on it bubble

DO NOT DECLAW EVER!!!

11/5/2015 10:24:02 AM

Which is better for a cat? Declawed and having a good home or not declawed and living out its days in a shelter?

11/5/2015 10:28:09 AM

god damn cat lovers. y'all fucking weirdos i don't get you

#dogs4lyfe

11/5/2015 10:36:16 AM

^^ As long as it is the forever home. But really there are many alternatives now, like the nail covers, and there are lots of things you can do in your house to minimize /eliminate scratching on furniture

rehoming is always an option or handing the animal over to a reputable rescue, NOT SURRENDERING TO A SHELTER

But to further clarify why you should not declaw please read below

A study published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (“Risk factors for relinquishment of cats to an animal shelter”, by Patronek, Glickman, Beck, et al., JAVMA, 1996:209:582-588) found that declawed cats were at an increased risk of relinquishment to animal shelters.

Among relinquished cats, 52.4% of declawed cats were reported to exhibit litter box avoidance, compared to 29.1% of non-declawed cats.

From CourierPostOnline.com, February 1, 2003: “Eighty percent of the cats that are surrendered that are declawed are euthanizedbecause they have a behavioral problem. . . . Declawed cats frequently become biters and also stop using litter boxes . . . one or the other.” —William Lombardi, shelter director, Gloucester County, New Jersey.
A study of 163 cats that underwent onychectomy (declawing), published in the July/August 1994 Journal of Veterinary Surgery, showed that 50 percent suffered from immediate postoperative complications such as pain, hemorrhage, and lameness; long-term complications, including prolonged lameness, were found in nearly 20 percent of the 121 cats who were followed up in the study.
A study published in the January 2001 issue of the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) found that 31 percent of 39 cats that underwent onychectomy or tendonectomy developed at least one behavior change immediately after surgery, with the most common problems being litter box problems and biting.

A national survey of shelters from the Caddo Parrish Forgotten Felines and Friends indicates that approximately 70 percent of cats turned in to shelters for behavioral problems are declawed.

From the Summer 2002 issue of PETA’s Animal Times: “A survey by a Delaware animal shelter showed that more than 75 percent of the cats turned in for avoiding their litter boxes had been declawed.”
According to a study published in the October 2001 issue of JAVMA by Dr. Gary J. Patronek, VMD, PhD, “declawed cats were at an increased risk of relinquishment.”

[Edited on November 5, 2015 at 12:33 PM. Reason : ^technically I am an animal lover]

11/5/2015 12:33:10 PM

Guess I have gotten lucky every cat I have had has been fine after the procedure. There is no way I would have a cat in my house that had claws it only takes once or twice scratching on the wrong thing to destroy it.

11/5/2015 1:44:21 PM

^I don't think you should own pets

11/5/2015 2:04:24 PM

trade sex for vet bills?

11/5/2015 2:35:48 PM

^^^I don't think you should own pets

[Edited on November 5, 2015 at 2:42 PM. Reason : * you sound like a good owner up until that point though]

11/5/2015 2:40:01 PM

Doss2K are you one of those people that won't get cat trees because they are tacky or don't fit your decor?

11/5/2015 3:23:42 PM

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/

11/5/2015 4:00:24 PM

Quote :

"trade sex for vet bills?"

like a lifetime of vet bills?

11/5/2015 4:49:29 PM

Maybe the lifetime of the cat.

But no fatties, though.

11/5/2015 5:52:08 PM

I have had the cat trees and scratching posts before and while yes you can get them to use them most of the time they don't always and all it takes is one time of them deciding to my computer chair or leather seats look worth scratching while I am at work and they are ruined. I have had enough damage in the few weeks between being a kitten and being old enough for the surgery to know that there is no way I will have a cat that isn't declawed. Granted if it were just me I simply wouldn't own any pets because I get all that stuff about possible complications, however having a family being pet free isn't an option so the cat is either declawed and has a good home or keeps is claws and takes its chances.

11/6/2015 8:23:21 AM

Quote :

" however having a family being pet free isn't an option"

why is that not an option?

11/6/2015 9:42:57 AM

Because every time I say I don't want any pets they look at me like I am some mean old man? So I have conceeded on having 2 cats, only one of which has been adopted since I got there. We also have a dog I inherited, but I have made it clear no more dogs after this haha.

11/6/2015 11:34:56 AM

oh ok.

well that is still your decision. My parents never let me have animals, I got over it. Maybe stick with dogs if cats aren't your thing. I appreciate your input

11/6/2015 11:36:22 AM

I am ok with cats, I dislike dogs hence why we wont be getting another. I guess I have just gotten lucky and never ran into a problem with a declawed cat. Ours use the litter box fine and move around fine and live happy lives so never seen much of a problem with it. We are on the list at the animal shelter though so we cant adopt from there. Apparently if you answer honestly and say you would declaw the cat they will look at you as evil people and put you on a no adopt list or something. Hence why I always wonder what people feel on that issue, declaw and find a good home with people who love and take care of you, or no declaw and you end up stuck in a shelter rather than getting adopted.

Also its not just the kid its the wife who wants one, if it was just the kid I would have no problem just saying no haha.

[Edited on November 6, 2015 at 11:45 AM. Reason : .]

11/6/2015 11:44:10 AM

You should probably just get hamsters or something.

11/6/2015 12:18:15 PM

Quote :

"Apparently if you answer honestly and say you would declaw the cat they will look at you as evil people and put you on a no adopt list or something."

well yea

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Quote :

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so for them, it is not ideal to let a cat, that they have invested in, with a person planning on unnecessary amputation surgery

sooo.....

11/6/2015 1:01:28 PM

lol @ link and quote to the picture

high five

11/6/2015 2:03:43 PM

I hate myself.

I'll go to my room now

11/6/2015 2:53:31 PM

I love you

11/6/2015 2:55:08 PM

I just thought it was funny how much they were posting on facebook and the like about X number of cats were gonna be put down soon if they couldn't find a home so I showed up ready to give one a chance and then was turned away. It basically felt like they were telling me they would rather let the cat die than be declawed and live an otherwise fine life. Just made me a little confused I guess.

11/6/2015 3:30:13 PM

^^show the "What declawing actually is compared to a human penis" graphic and you'd really drive the point home.

11/6/2015 4:23:53 PM

When the cats
Awaaaay, the mice will plaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
That's what the people saaay
Alllllllllll I know is dogs play anywaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Cause I play everydaaay

11/6/2015 5:17:45 PM

if anyone can make a contribution, me and my friend are working on 'presents' to give donors. We were thinking of making ornaments or magnets or a card, but we talked together and if there is cleaning, editing, cooking, present wrapping or other things that you would rather get, then we are happy to do those (non-sexual and legal) things so long as the donation matches the request

12/1/2015 5:52:39 PM

or if you prefer we can send you a special box full of her hair sheds





$25

12/1/2015 6:00:13 PM

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comes with a free side of Texas Rattlesnake sauce

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12/1/2015 11:23:37 PM

cat lovers pizza

12/2/2015 10:03:18 AM

haha

I, personally am a klat lover

12/2/2015 7:09:55 PM