http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/obama-executive-action-gun-control/index.html

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"Obama answered his critics, adding "this is not a plot to take away everybody's guns.""

This is when Republicans insert fingers into ears, that way they can come out screaming OBAMA TAKING R GUNZ!

Quote :

"House Speaker Paul Ryan, a Republican, criticized the President's plans for choosing executive action over working with Congress."

LAWLZ

Since congress has worked so well and most GOP reps go into a 2 yr tantrum whenever the words gunz and control are brought up together.

1/5/2016 12:16:37 PM

Mods plz

1/5/2016 12:18:27 PM

yoink

1/5/2016 12:19:15 PM

mods?

1/5/2016 12:25:23 PM

Aren't you already arguing about this in like 4 other threads?

1/5/2016 12:34:50 PM

Obama just left with all my guns, what a fucking constitution ignorer.

1/5/2016 12:40:53 PM

can someone summarize why some people why some people are so upset and think that requiring more background checks violates the constitution? it won't effect non-criminals, right?

1/5/2016 12:49:34 PM

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"This is when Republicans insert fingers into ears, that way they can come out screaming OBAMA TAKING R GUNZ! "

Ever been lied to? by a politician?

Not that I disagree with these controls, but there is always reason to be suspicious of more to come

And Obama covered up the gun walking programs that purposefully sold guns illegally and many innocent people died as result from those guns. At the least, he should release the rest of those documents he exercised executive privileged over so those responsible can be held accountable. Then he can avoid being a hypocrite on the subject.

1/5/2016 12:51:16 PM

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM. Reason : found a gif]

1/5/2016 12:53:02 PM

Something he said was how ridiculous it was that "a terrorist suspect" is on a no-fly list, but can go and buy a gun.

The premise that it would be okay for a terrorist suspect to be out and about is pretty preposterous.

Or the hiring of more FBI agents to streamline the process of background checks.

That's nice.

How about more FBI agents to arrest the terrorist suspects?

Or what about how he explicitly said that his upcoming actions would not have prevented the last three mass shootings.

1/5/2016 12:57:29 PM

^^^^ I'm concerned because they seem to be deliberately not defining when you have to get a dealer license and conduct background checks. The facts page on the White House website seems to suggesting that selling just a single gun might trigger the requirement. I don't know about most people, but I like to know when I am and am not breaking the law. They should think about opening the background check system to everyone so that anyone selling a gun and call in a background check and not just dealers.

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 12:57 PM. Reason : not enough ^s]

1/5/2016 12:57:42 PM

someone invent the judge dredd dna bullets already

1/5/2016 1:00:47 PM

^^^ The problem with the Terror Watchlist is Due Process. You can basically be put on for any reason, they don't have to tell you why, and it takes the next best thing to divine intervention to get off. People have been added for things like protesting the actions of the local sheriff, writing blog posts criticizing the actions of local police, or being friends with an Occupy Wallstreet protester.

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:02 PM. Reason : not enough ^s]

1/5/2016 1:01:54 PM

I've looked into buying a used gun just to save money and responsible sellers will ensure the transaction takes place at a gun store so you can make sure a background check is done. Though I can see how it is frustrating to not know the specifics on the laws.

Even Obama had his staff research for months to see if his own actions would be legal, that's when you know you're pushing it a little

1/5/2016 1:02:21 PM

if obama could do this then why didnt he 6 years ago?

1/5/2016 1:09:50 PM

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-agree-with-obama-that-more-gun-buyers-should-get-background-checks/?ex_cid=538twitter

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"Consistently, at least 70 percent of Americans said they favor background checks. Often, far more do. In October, a CBS News/New York Times poll found that 92 percent of Americans — including 87 percent of Republicans — favor background checks for all gun buyers.1"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/president-obamas-executive-orders-on-guns-are-very-popular-even-if-he-isnt/?postshare=2201452012849052&tid=ss_tw


http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2015/oct/05/jeremy-bird/jeremy-bird-says-90-percent-americans-want-mandato/

^ are you joking? he's been asking congress to take action for a while, he's just fed up at this point and is trying to do what he can. I'm sure we all remember the Machin-toomey fiasco.


[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:20 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2016 1:11:34 PM

Quote :

"esponsible sellers will ensure the transaction takes place at a gun store so you can make sure a background check is done."

wat.

that's what permits are for. no need to go to a store for face-to-face transactions.

1/5/2016 1:13:59 PM

he might be thinking about buying a gun from out of state through an online used gun website

maybe?

1/5/2016 1:19:29 PM

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"if obama could do this then why didnt he 6 years ago?"

Is this a serious question? Think really hard and get back to me (hint: rhymes with lolitics).

1/5/2016 1:23:53 PM

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"I'm concerned because they seem to be deliberately not defining when you have to get a dealer license and conduct background checks. The facts page on the White House website seems to suggesting that selling just a single gun might trigger the requirement."

I'm ignorant to private sales. Currently, how does the process work? If I wanted to sell my gun to a friend, what would he and I have to do?

1/5/2016 1:29:13 PM

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:32 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2016 1:32:11 PM

^^^ yup. it's not the preferred course of action. he'd strongly prefer congress pass something, but lollerskates like that would fucking happen.

^^ depends on the type of gun and the state. in NC the buyer needs a permit if it's a handgun, otherwise nothing is required.

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:34 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2016 1:33:10 PM

^^^ In NC he would have to go to his local sheriff, go through a background check process and obtain a pistol purchase permit, unless you were selling a long gun. Then you as the seller could keep the permit to prove you sold to a legit buyer and establish a papertrail.

Or, if the buyer had a Concealed carry permit, he could buy from you without needing to obtain a pistol purchase permit, as his card proves that the has been vetted within the past 5 years.

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:35 PM. Reason : ^]

1/5/2016 1:34:35 PM

haha the guy named Bullet doesn't know about guns

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:36 PM. Reason : ^do they need to register the sale anywhere?]

1/5/2016 1:34:49 PM

depends on the firearm type and which state each of you live in.

For NC: handguns require a purchase permit or a concealed handgun permit, both of which include a NICS check to receive. Long guns are just 18+.

so if there is a loophole in this state, it's with private long gun sales. as I've said for a while, abolish the purchase permit, revamp the CHP into a firearms permit, and have all sales require a firearms permit.

^only residents of durham county have to register firearms. for purchase permit sales, the seller must retain the permit. there is no record for any other private sales that is required by law. when I've sold firearms, i required a CHP and to complete two copies of a bill of sale.

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2016 1:36:13 PM

^ The purchase permit just requires 3 people signing that you are a nice law-abiding guy lol

Quote :

"he'd strongly prefer congress pass something, but lollerskates like that would fucking happen."

LOLz, Paul Ryan explicitly was bitching that he's against this since Obama didn't work with congress. What a jokester!

1/5/2016 1:44:28 PM

all you pieces of shit with guns should just shoot yourself with them

thx

1/5/2016 1:46:05 PM

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"^ The purchase permit just requires 3 people signing that you are a nice law-abiding guy lol"

While this may be part of some county's permit process, it's not the only requirement.

^say hello to a future "nice kid, but just had "problems" shooter"

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2016 1:47:20 PM

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"haha the guy named Bullet doesn't know about guns"

i know some about guns, but i've never bought or sold to a friend and don't know how that works... and my name isn't a direct reference to the projectile that is propelled from a firearm, per se.

Quote :

"for purchase permit sales, the seller must retain the permit."

so what if i sold a gun to a friend, they committed a crime with it, it was traced back to me, and I had lost the permit, what happens?

1/5/2016 1:48:03 PM

Quote :

"And Obama covered up the gun walking programs that purposefully sold guns illegally and many innocent people died as result from those guns. At the least, he should release the rest of those documents he exercised executive privileged over so those responsible can be held accountable. Then he can avoid being a hypocrite on the subject."

Are you referring to this report?

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2012/s1209.pdf

1/5/2016 2:09:00 PM

funny how things like that continue to be brought up in the face of actual evidence/facts

he was so sure of it, too

1/5/2016 2:13:58 PM

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM. Reason : GO PACK]

1/5/2016 2:41:53 PM

Quote :

"^say hello to a future "nice kid, but just had "problems" shooter""

I'll use a gun to kill all you gunfags in a fucking second

it would definitely not come as any surprise - you know I'm loco

1/5/2016 8:25:32 PM

sorry, I guess I'll say "I would" (given the opportunity to line up you redneck/terrorist fucks) just so no faggotism occurs from this

1/5/2016 8:30:02 PM

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 9:04 PM. Reason : Work]

1/5/2016 9:02:02 PM

I turned on Hannity on the way home b/c I was curious how this was being portrayed. It was actually comical. Typical taking your guns crap. Nowhere did I hear the actual details of what Obama is proposing, which by itself is innocuous and isn't really going to affect any of us.

I think this is being done more for a platform from which to discuss gun violence. What he's doing is constitutional, and we know this because it is so ineffectual. For something with teeth, he'd need congress.

My fellow Republicans are up in arms about nothing.

1/5/2016 9:18:18 PM

up in arms

1/5/2016 9:25:31 PM

Got to rally the base somehow ^^

1/6/2016 12:12:44 AM

all your base

rally 'round the family

wit a pocket full of shells

1/6/2016 2:51:25 AM

Quote :

"so what if i sold a gun to a friend, they committed a crime with it, it was traced back to me, and I had lost the permit, what happens?"

I honestly don't remember now. I imagine it's either petty (class 3 misdemeanor) or harsh (say goodbye to your rights).

Quote :

"I'll use a gun to kill all you gunfags in a fucking second"

I find it hypocritical that you think law abiding firearm owners are such a danger when the overwhelming vast majority of them would never speak these words, much less put them into action. Meanwhile, you post with joy for the world to see your desire to murder others. Who is the real danger here?

[Edited on January 6, 2016 at 9:02 AM. Reason : l]

1/6/2016 9:00:45 AM

The NC attorney general released a document that says a private seller should retain the pistol purchase permit, but there is actually no law that requires it. NC GS 14-402

Buying a handgun without the PPP is a class 2 misdemeanor

1/6/2016 9:23:00 AM

Oh, did I confuse Cooper's summary with law? My bad.

1/6/2016 9:31:49 AM

why do I care what you find hypocritical?


who is the real danger: THE PEOPLE WITH THE FUCKING DEADLY WEAPONS YOU FUCKING CRETIN

are you fucking retarded

how the fuck hard is it to understand that people with guns are going to kill people - whether by accident or not

1/7/2016 1:04:32 PM

why did I even ask if you were retarded

that's not even a question

you are clearly a dunce

1/7/2016 1:05:42 PM

you're the one with murderous fantasies.

1/7/2016 1:42:00 PM

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"how the fuck hard is it to understand that people with guns are going to kill people - whether by accident or not"

wat?

The majority of gun owners are responsible gun owners. And I'd wager most guns, like mine, get locked up in a safe and are taken out to shoot at a range...or to provide eye candy when I'm shucking my corn. That is mindless banter to say people with guns will kill people.

1/7/2016 1:45:22 PM

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"The majority of gun owners are responsible gun owners. "

the majority......

so I have to sit here and worry about that minority that goes mentally insane and start killing people.. ok cool, that's a good tradeoff

if only they didn't have a gun, perhaps that all could have been prevented

why are you guys so stupid with this

Quote :

" That is mindless banter to say people with guns will kill people."

there are so many fucking variables to all of this

>kid sees his father with gun locked up
>kid finds key
>kid gets gun
>kid kills people (whether it be accidental or purposeful)

you guys are ridiculous

Quote :

"you're the one with murderous fantasies."

ok, let's break down some simple mathematics for you since you are apparently retarded

I have no gun

that means there is a 0% chance that I am going to murder anyone

when someone owns a gun, there is a greater than 0% chance that someone will die

why am I even talking to you people


your fucking stupid lives are mindless banter

1/7/2016 2:27:00 PM

I can't believe you pieces of shit are actually defending gun usage

ZERO PEOPLE CAN GET MURDERED IF THERE ARE ZERO FUCKING GUNS

GO AHEAD AND USE YOUR KNIFE/WHATEVER ELSE WEAPONS THERE ARE ARGUMENT

YOU CAN'T FUCKING SHOOT UP A PLACE AND KILL 100 PEOPLE WITH A KNIFE

1/7/2016 2:28:13 PM

I'm sorry you find it ridiculous that I don't want anyone murdered anywhere

especially those who don't deserve it

keep defending your ridiculous ideals

1/7/2016 2:32:33 PM

Today I learned the only way to kill another human being is with a gun.

1/7/2016 2:39:45 PM