TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
on September 18, 1970.
4/22/2016 9:00:07 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
RIP.
gnsp... 4/22/2016 9:24:43 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27792 Posts user info edit post |
Garth Brooks died? 4/22/2016 10:47:39 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
John Mayer ain't dead yet 4/23/2016 12:38:19 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 25892 Posts user info edit post |
4/23/2016 10:40:31 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
why do you like to argue so much? 4/23/2016 11:57:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
says the guy who basically asks me to argue with him by making that post?
honestly, probably some alpha male mentality shit
but do you agree with your bff vinylbandit that Prince was a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix? Cause I'll argue that asinine shit all day, since it's asinine. 4/24/2016 12:01:12 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
yes, I do
and you're the one who made the thread
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:07 AM. Reason : .] 4/24/2016 12:06:26 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
lol at Prince being better than Jimi at guitar
so much lol
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:09 AM. Reason : hot takes itt] 4/24/2016 12:09:32 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
Price has done things on guitar that aren't replicable
Jimi, while insanely amazing, doesn't have that claim 4/24/2016 12:11:27 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
yes he does
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:13 AM. Reason : what has Prince done on guitar that's not replicable?] 4/24/2016 12:12:07 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
really great argument
you win 4/24/2016 12:12:57 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
just trying to follow your posting style of annoyingly concise and uninformative content
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:13 AM. Reason : sorry, your arguing style] 4/24/2016 12:13:29 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what has Prince done on guitar that's not replicable?" |
the intro to "When Doves Cry", which he himself said he couldn't replicate
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:17 AM. Reason : .]4/24/2016 12:15:19 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
if he was such a good guitar player that you claim he was better than the G.O.A.T., how come he couldn't replicate something he already played? And how the hell is that a plus?
He couldn't play something he already played, so somehow that's an argument for him being better than fucking Jimi Hendrix? lol
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:17 AM. Reason : lol] 4/24/2016 12:16:34 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
nice usage of lol
Skip Bayless would be proud 4/24/2016 12:18:42 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "really great argument
you win" |
4/24/2016 12:20:04 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
but seriously
why do you get off on arguing so much on here? 4/24/2016 12:20:58 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
I don't seriously know, but aren't you the same way?
And seriously, if you're gonna claim that Prince is better than Jimi and you want your argument to hold any merit, you've got to do better than "Prince played something and said he couldn't play it again" as if that's some kind of compliment to his abilities with a 6 string. 4/24/2016 12:23:25 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not even close to being the same way
you seem to get off on always playing Devils Advocate
other than posting that the greatest guitar player ever died on September 18th, 1970, why do you think that's the case? 4/24/2016 12:25:57 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
you're the type of TWWer who makes it his mission to call out people for being non-politically correct and you claim you're not even close to being argumentative? Ok.
I mean, you took a thread that basically said "Jimi is still the greatest," called me out for arguing too much, and are doing nothing but arguing. Yet you're not also just as internet-argumentative as me?
Might I suggest youtubing Michael Jackon's "Man in the Mirror"
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:28 AM. Reason : .] 4/24/2016 12:27:03 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
whole lot of words with a "non-politically correct" thrown in
but no real substance or an argument for your original post 4/24/2016 12:33:14 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
Words help explain your opinion when arguing, not trying to be snarkily concise.
You can think Prince is a better guitar player than Jimi if you want, but you haven't made any decent arguments to convey that opinion.
All you're really doing is arguing, yet you seem to be completely ignorant to the fact that you're doing what you hijacked the thread to do.
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:36 AM. Reason : ibyou harp on the word hijacked] 4/24/2016 12:35:06 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
why do you think Jimi was a better guitar player? 4/24/2016 12:36:18 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
Because he was not only an groundbreaking innovator and trendsetter, and by far the greatest guitar player at the time he was alive and active, but he could do anything with a guitar. Maybe you could argue since Prince lived 30 years longer that he put out more music or something, but I still don't get this notion that anybody, Prince or otherwise, could fuck with Jimi's skills and overall musical ability. I mean, most people agree with me that he's the best, and all you've done is hype up that Prince couldn't recreate an intro? 4/24/2016 12:39:59 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but I still don't get this notion that anybody, Prince or otherwise, could fuck with Jimi's skills and overall musical ability. " |
overall musical ability?
seriously?
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:46 AM. Reason : just in case you delete it]4/24/2016 12:44:04 AM |
Sweden All American 12294 Posts user info edit post |
Jeff Beck is still alive. 4/24/2016 12:44:42 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
Music ability with a guitar. Prince was more diverse with his music as a whole, but that's not the argument that you latched onto.
If Prince and Jimi were both given some sheet music to play off the cuff, maybe Prince would do better. That doesn't mean he's a better guitar player. 4/24/2016 12:46:27 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
sheet of music?
they both taught themselves 4/24/2016 12:48:02 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
just seems like you and VB's argument is that Prince is a better technical guitar player than Jimi. As if music is math and not an art.
I'm trying to actually argue substance and not witty retorts
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 12:49 AM. Reason : .] 4/24/2016 12:48:37 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
you're creating arguments that only you are arguing at this point
you're the only one who has brought up technicality 4/24/2016 12:51:13 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
In this thread, but VB has said as much in his arguments previously. I figured y'all would be on the same page and whatnot.
So why is Prince better again? Because he couldn't play something he played before? That's your only argument in this thread, correct me if I'm wrong. And it's a weak argument, if not terrible. 4/24/2016 12:54:14 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Look here you treetwistin' son of a bitch.
This dude right here, this good life motherfucker, not only authored a Girls episode playlist, but also founded a little band by the name of Future Islands. Perhaps you've heard of them.
Motherfucker knows some music.
Who the fuck are you??? 4/24/2016 12:57:10 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
pretty easy for you to search for videos of Prince playing guitar
even easier for you to read every response in this thread
Hendrix is obviously an all-time great, but Prince was a virtuoso who did things (plural, just in case you thought he only did one solo), that aren't replicable.
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 1:02 AM. Reason : so now the troll brigade chimes in. at least you're keeping the board going. ] 4/24/2016 1:01:36 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
What's your obsession with replicability? How is it a compliment if you can't exactly replicate something you've already done?
And I mean, did someone ask Jimi if he could redo the Star Spangled Banner again in the exact same notes and cadence and stuff? Did he say no? Your argument is weaksauce.
And just like you're giving Jimi props, Prince is a great guitarist. But you are trying to argue that he's better than the Muhammad Ali, the Michael Jordan, the Babe Ruth of the guitar, and your one, single, solitary argument against the vast consensus is he couldn't replicate what he'd already played?
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 1:04 AM. Reason : .] 4/24/2016 1:03:04 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You don't take compliments well sir. I'm on your side here.] 4/24/2016 1:04:07 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
if your suggestion is that jimi was more innovative than prince, i'd agree with that
but i firmly believe that prince could do anything that jimi could do and more
plus he's a superior composer and was a studio-quality musician on numerous other instruments
a severe limiting factor on hendrix is that his entire recording career lasted less than six years, and his career as an artist barely more than three. he might've gone on to do even more incomprehensible things, but we'll never know
prince picked up/expanded on almost every innovation in guitar playing in his 35+ year career
if you want to call it a tie, that's fine by me, but the difference is subjective; there's not a gulf of talent between them 4/24/2016 1:12:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
See, I appreciate you for actually debating this. And I honestly value your insight on Prince's talents, and didn't consider him as great a guitarist as I did years ago when you put him in the convo. It's certainly a tough argument because of body of work, era, etc, and I'll still put Jimi at the top, but I genuinely enjoy your perspective as a music nerd (compliment.)
And don't you think that if Jimi had lived a full life, that he could keep up with Prince at minimum?
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 1:18 AM. Reason : .] 4/24/2016 1:17:49 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i mean, you could talk about that forever
paul mccartney wrote some of the best songs you'll ever hear, but also some of the worst
so who knows what would've happened if hendrix had kept going
some artists make relevant things 20, 30, 40 years into their careers and some don't
not much rhyme or reason to who can keep it fresh/quality
in short, ¯\_(?)_/¯ 4/24/2016 1:28:51 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
McCartney wanted to be known by Maybe I'm Amazed, btw, when it came to the whole body of work. 4/24/2016 1:47:16 AM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
greatest to me:
https://youtu.be/g-oTuPADMMg?t=25s
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 9:48 AM. Reason : d] 4/24/2016 9:46:14 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQDFmmougCM
it might not be fair when you're getting tips from larry graham all the time, but still
"oh hey i also shred the bass nbd" 4/24/2016 11:31:46 AM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Chet Atkins died last year 4/24/2016 12:21:08 PM |
Kickstand All American 11566 Posts user info edit post |
This stage exit cannot be replicated.
https://youtu.be/6SFNW5F8K9Y 4/24/2016 4:34:44 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52799 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if your suggestion is that jimi was more innovative than prince, i'd agree with that
but i firmly believe that prince could do anything that jimi could do and more" |
Exactly.
I could probably name a couple dozen guitarists who would play circles around Jimi Hendrix, period, end of story. SRV, Nuno Betancourt, Steve Morse, Dave Mustaine, Vai/Satriani/Yngwie/John Petrucci/etc. I would even argue Brad Paisley.
Jimi Hendrix was a pretty good player in terms of chops, but the reason he's the man is that he was so innovative. I also wish I could hear his stuff with better recording quality.
(also, if you want to compare apples to apples instead of Nuno to Jimi, I think you have to discuss Slash...although it's kinda moot, since that one's a fight for 2nd behind Stevie Ray Vaughan. )
Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads deserve mention somewhere in here (partly for the same reason as Jimi Hendrix--they introduced that style to the world), and while he's less flashy, I enjoy the hell out of Mark Knopfler. Chet Atkins is another subtly impressive guitarist. And yes, Prince was a great player.4/24/2016 7:46:18 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52799 Posts user info edit post |
Bad ass. Would have been perfect if she'd played the whole song instead of just the Wounded Bumblebee intro.
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 7:59 PM. Reason : I really like Nuno and Steve Morse.]
4/24/2016 7:59:13 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148359 Posts user info edit post |
Brad Paisley is a better guitarist than Jimi Hendrix...
what the fuck is wrong with people? 4/24/2016 8:30:18 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
He is.. 4/24/2016 9:00:18 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
brad paisley would be the busiest man in nashville even if he had never sang or written a note.
dude can absolutely rip, and is as clean a player as you'd ever want to hear. it's kind of sickening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJgrEoAnHk
these kinds of solos aren't really my cup of tea, but they're still pretty mind-boggling.
[Edited on April 24, 2016 at 9:25 PM. Reason : 4] 4/24/2016 9:03:35 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
There are a gazillion guitar players technically better than Hendrix.
There are a gazillion painters technically better than Matisse.
WHO FUCKING CARES. 4/24/2016 9:34:30 PM |