ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
| Boston College (3-4, 0-4) | | | vs | | | NC State (4-3, 1-2) | |
| Saturday, October 29th, 12:30pm TV: ACC Network |
Boston College schedule to date: vs Georgia Tech L 17-14 @ UMass W 26-7 @ Virginia Tech L 49-0 Wagner W 42-10 Buffalo W 35-3 #3 Clemson L 56-10 Syracuse L 38-20
GO STATE!10/24/2016 5:56:17 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
First! 10/24/2016 6:00:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
we opened as 15 point favorites btw 10/24/2016 6:24:35 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Wow BC sucks why do we even have this shit school in our conference. 10/24/2016 7:08:29 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
so BC is 0-4 in football. was 0-8 last year. was 0-18 in basketball in the acc.
jesus christ, man.
but
they've got two divisional titles since joining the league. and while it's not an apples to apples comparison since they weren't in the ACC, they have won 2 Big East basketball titles since we last won a conference title in basketball 10/24/2016 7:54:30 PM |
Kickstand All American 11595 Posts user info edit post |
BC was on the up and up under Jeff Jagodzinski until he was fired for violating some non-compete bs. 10/24/2016 8:26:12 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Syracuse only won 28-20 not 38 but still anything less than double digit win at home would be bad.
A loss here would surely seal DD's fate. 10/24/2016 8:35:35 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Its worse than that. NC State is the only Power 5 school that hasn't won a conference title in *basketball or football in the last 25 years.
*Correction- South Carolina hasn't either, but they did win a conference title in baseball during that time span at least. 10/24/2016 8:52:25 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BC was on the up and up under Jeff Jagodzinski until he was fired for violating some non-compete bs" |
Jagodzinski (God, Polish names are a nightmare to spell) rode the coattails of Tom O'Brien and Matt Ryan to one good season at BC. He reverted right back to the mean the following year before being fired.
If we're going to blame Doeren's first year at NC State for "the mess" O'Brien left, then it's only fair to credit him for Jagz first season at BC where they went to the ACC championship game.
BC has been steadily sinking ever since.10/25/2016 3:11:15 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah...pretty common knowledge that jagz sucked and they were more than happy to get rid of him 10/25/2016 6:57:15 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^Its worse than that. NC State is the only Power 5 school that hasn't won a conference title in *basketball or football in the last 25 years." |
yeah i knew it was worse....that's a rabbit hole i don't wanna go down
it's amazing how absolutely terrible BC has been in both football and basketball recently.10/25/2016 7:21:14 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "*Correction- South Carolina hasn't either, but they did win a conference title in baseball during that time span at least." | ]
Didn't they at least win the SEC East one of those years?10/25/2016 8:21:42 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
^They may have, but winning the overall conference championship is what we're talking about here.
Its pretty crazy, but we are the only power 5 conference team, to not win ONE conference title in bball or football since 1988.
We are literally the worst power 5 conference school of the last nearly 30 years. 10/25/2016 8:51:10 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I get it but I mean at least they could say they won their division we can't even claim that 10/25/2016 8:52:54 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Going to need the good Finley to show up again, going to be really hard to run against BC.
And if we could just remove the end-around to Hines from the playbook, that would be terrific. 10/25/2016 8:56:37 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its pretty crazy, but we are the only power 5 conference team, to not win ONE conference title in bball or football since 1988.
We are literally the worst power 5 conference school of the last nearly 30 years." |
Not really. Statements 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive10/25/2016 1:59:24 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
yeah if we came in 2nd for the last 30 years we would literally be the best power 5 school. 10/25/2016 6:34:34 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Those statements are not mutually exclusive in any way 10/25/2016 7:53:39 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
C'mon you of all people should agree with me. Liverpool have not won a league title since 1990, but are still considered a major club in the EPL. 10/25/2016 8:00:16 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
I just disagree that you understand what the term "mutually exclusive" means 10/25/2016 8:56:49 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
yea, some research on the meaning of "mutual exclusive" TTT 10/26/2016 12:05:42 AM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its worse than that. NC State is the only Power 5 school that hasn't won a conference title in *basketball or football in the last 25 years.
*Correction: [what i just said is complete bullshit]" |
[Edited on October 26, 2016 at 12:36 AM. Reason : and i imagine it's more than just SC. dude didn't show his trolly math.]10/26/2016 12:32:06 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
Your mom is mutually exclusive 10/26/2016 6:28:23 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
i think he might be right, but it gets a little fuzzy with expansion teams winning conference titles in their previous conference.
Just as far as the acc, we're the only team not to win a conference title in football or basketball - including the expansion teams winning in the old big east - since 1990.
[Edited on October 26, 2016 at 8:56 AM. Reason : Hh] 10/26/2016 8:54:37 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Goes back to the "would you rather be consistently good or occasionally great" debate.
Look at a team like Wake, they've been useless in basketball for years(since Chris Paul) and have 1 great football season. Would you really swap with them over the last 10 years and where the programs stand currently for that 1 great football season? 10/26/2016 9:01:40 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
synapse is wrong. i speak only truth my brothers & sisters. 10/26/2016 9:57:32 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
we haven't been consistently good or had that "one great season"
we've been consistently mediocre with a couple terrible seasons and a couple above average seasons. 10/26/2016 10:02:44 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Making a bowl = good. Not making a bowl = bad.
Making NCAA tournament = good. Not making NCAA tournament = bad.
I'd say in the last 10 years we've had a better overall run than Wake despite their 1 championship. 10/26/2016 11:18:39 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Would you really swap with them over the last 10 years and where the programs stand currently for that 1 great football season?" |
I'd would take a 20 year NCAA ban for a national championship.10/26/2016 11:27:13 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
^^ok. i mean, i get that. i'm not arguing that we've been worse than Wake over the last decade. and i'm not trying to be all doom and gloom or anything. but being barely .500 and making a bowl isn't really "good" and being like a 8-11 seed in the tournament isn't particularly good either. i would say both of those are "mediocre" with a few good teams and a few really bad teams sprinkled in.
just for reference...our last 10 football seasons (not including this year since it isn't over): 61-64 (30-50). i mean...y'all tell me if that's "good". cause that looks not good to me. better than wake? probably - i don't really care to add up their record over that time frame. but that's quantifiably not good. 10/26/2016 11:34:28 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe thats coz we have Wake type talent. Fuck you Yao! 10/26/2016 11:39:14 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Its so weird whenever I see the word "Yao" I first think of Yao Ming, not our AD.
[Edited on October 26, 2016 at 12:47 PM. Reason : I'm an idiot, its actually spelled Yow.] 10/26/2016 12:47:19 PM |
Kickstand All American 11595 Posts user info edit post |
TIME TO START JUMPING AROUND AND GET HYPE!! 10/28/2016 12:33:45 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
10/28/2016 12:38:55 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Wake is 57-68 over the last 10 years.
[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 12:53 PM. Reason : BC is 69-61] 10/28/2016 12:48:28 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Look at a team like Wake, they've been useless in basketball for years(since Chris Paul Skip Prosper up and died on them) and have 1 great football season." |
And yes, I would trade our similar lack of success for a championship.10/28/2016 1:47:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
so yeah i'd trade our 61-64 for wake's 57-68 + 1 ACC title without blinking. and i think everybody else here would too.
i get that wake has been total butt in recent years and for most of their history they have been total butt as well. but if we shorten that window to the last ~10 years, and look at pretty much just the Grobe and now Clawson eras...we don't have that much room to talk. even outside of their ACC title, they still have 2 8+ win seasons not even counting that ACC title season. they also have posted 3 winning ACC records (6-2, 5-3, 5-3) in a time frame in which we've only posted 1 winning record in ACC play (5-3, 2010). so yeah...we are wake but without the hardware.
and similarly BC is shit right now, but i'd trade our 10 years for their 10 years in a heartbeat.
also...wake is not bad this year, that actually was a solid win for us. i think they're trending in the right direction with Clawson.
[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 2:26 PM. Reason : f] 10/28/2016 2:17:23 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Hell I'd trade what UNC has been through for just a National title 10/28/2016 3:07:51 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Game Day! Go Pack! 10/29/2016 7:56:42 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25533 Posts user info edit post |
would be nice to see finley get back on track this game...hopefully regain some confidence that he appeared to lose over the last couple games. 10/29/2016 8:07:28 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
Is it a loss of confidence or just him getting exposed by actual defenses? 10/29/2016 9:42:16 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Had to turn down Vaughn Tower tickets
Son has a baseball game today at 11:30 so at least it's a good reason 10/29/2016 10:13:17 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
UVA trying to rejuvinate our season 10/29/2016 12:52:53 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
Can we get BC's kicker? 10/29/2016 1:07:53 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Can we play McClendon??? Time to play the guy that might end up being a threat 10/29/2016 1:14:34 PM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.theacc.com/game-center/576c0dafe4b0d80639f54756/?utm_source=all&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=fb&utm_content=tv
stream 10/29/2016 1:15:34 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson game a fluke? We suck 10/29/2016 1:40:21 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
my computer froze and when i came back both teams had scored long tds. damn i hate when our games aren't televised. duke gt is the accn game i have. 10/29/2016 1:40:30 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit what an idiotic call. GTFO DD 10/29/2016 1:44:19 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
We aren't blocking for shit. Fucking BC is laughing and smiling and jumping around on the sideline. It's embarassing 10/29/2016 1:45:04 PM |