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In short:
- Raleigh wants to tear down City Hall, build new government campus
- City Council members say they don’t want to renovate the City Hall, vacant police station and parking deck on the downtown block bounded by Morgan, McDowell, Hargett and Dawson streets. Instead, they want to demolish them and start over on the site.
- City staff estimated last year that the project could cost more than $90 million.

Fuck that spensive shit, Clint

Current status: uncredible

6/21/2017 2:40:57 PM

I'm failing to see what's uncredible about it

6/21/2017 3:11:45 PM

Spending money due to "eyesore"

Is we or is we ain't fiscally conservative?

6/21/2017 3:36:01 PM

it's going to have to be replaced at some point

better to do it now while the city has assets to sell in order to offset more than half of the $90 million it'll cost

that cost will only go up the longer they wait

[Edited on June 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2017 3:39:38 PM

or....they more efficiently use the space they have. there's always that.

[Edited on June 21, 2017 at 3:47 PM. Reason : still sell the assets tho and put that shit to better use]

6/21/2017 3:47:21 PM

What's wrong with the current complex?

6/22/2017 4:13:54 PM

^^
article says the building only has another 15 years in it. but it was built in 1983, so that's kinda confusing to me.

6/22/2017 5:04:51 PM

bldgs got expiration dates now??? my house was built in the 70s. i'm not planning on demolishing that bitch just cuz it's gonna be more expensive to do it later.


[Edited on June 22, 2017 at 5:11 PM. Reason : damn...we're wayyyyyyyyy overdue on the capitol bldg]

6/22/2017 5:10:00 PM

buildings have a design lifespan, and then a lifespan you use when you are forecasting and planning facilities and capital projects.

^^ 30 years is when you start getting into really major overhauls, 15 more years sounds realistic for needing a major renovation

i haven't looked at these projects or whats planned so i have no idea if its true in this case, but its entirely possible that a complete demo and new better planned structure is more cost effective in the long run. also aesthetics do have value when you are trying to revitalize a city and encourage other development.

6/22/2017 5:19:11 PM

downtown Raleigh in 2017 is also nothing like downtown Raleigh was in 1983

6/22/2017 5:28:00 PM

It doesn't look trendy enough. All these high rise condos with the hipsters as occupants. Gotta keep up with the Joneses.

7/6/2017 7:47:01 AM

ah, the ol' republican mantra.

government bad
government spend any money bad
government do anything bad
government need new facility bad
government bad

7/6/2017 8:38:38 AM

But at least they already voted to allow Sunday alcohol sales beginning at 10am.

7/6/2017 8:39:26 AM

CROSSOVER PORTAL THREAD

https://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=617439&page=45

7/6/2017 8:41:07 AM

^^is that a complaint?

7/6/2017 8:45:33 AM

No.

7/6/2017 8:50:29 AM

Quote :

"It doesn't look trendy enough. All these high rise condos with the hipsters as occupants. Gotta keep up with the Joneses. "

almost all of the condo development is low, lumber construction with bland styling, it is bad long term for the city. high rise condos would be great, we have very little of that though.

7/6/2017 10:15:23 AM

hipsters don't live in condos

7/6/2017 10:46:55 AM

we need affordable high-rise apartments pretty much across the country

7/6/2017 11:06:01 AM

I support this as long as they allocate some money for homeless services/shelters, so there's not homeless people walking around everywhere shitting and pissing in any nook or cranny they find.

7/6/2017 11:45:54 AM

https://www.wral.com/story/2023-raleigh-christmas-parade-canceled-permit-denied-after-child-s-death/21049022/

Mary-Ann Baldwin continues to be the absolute worst

Quote :

"Raleigh Mayor Mary-Ann Baldwin said there will be no Christmas parade in 2023 in the city. "The decision was made out of an abundance of caution for parade participants and spectators, as well as respect for Hailey Brooks’ family and friends," the city wrote in announcing the change."

Quote :

"On Thursday, the Brooks' attorney Jason Miller of Raleigh-based Miller Monroe and Plyler released a statement about the city's decision. The Brooks family is disappointed that the City of Raleigh chose to cancel its 2023 Raleigh Christmas Parade rather than adopt basic safety measures to protect the community," Miller wrote. "The City did not reach out to the family before making this decision. "If consulted, the Brooks family would have urged the City to proceed with the Parade after implementing basic, common-sense safety protocols that should have been in place in 2022, such as those proposed in the Shine Like Hailey Parade Safety Act. It has been 10 months since Hailey Brooks was killed, and it is time for the City to honor her by enacting protections for the safety of this community – not by canceling the parade."

[Edited on September 14, 2023 at 5:05 PM. Reason : .]

9/14/2023 5:05:08 PM

an absolute pursuit of safety or rather in this case, the illusion of so, is fruitless

what we can't quantify are the mental effects of this kind of a mentality on people

9/14/2023 5:10:31 PM

damn, not even a livestream with no attendees? could've at least done this covid-style.

9/15/2023 1:54:58 PM

My guess is that they've just been looking for an excuse to get rid of the Christmas Parade in general and replace it with another "closed streets arts/drinking festival" with a winter/holiday theme. There's probably way more money in the latter. They could easily still host the marching bands on stage or in parts of the street without walking around if they were so inclined.

Who knows. I'm not a Christian, so I really dgaf about this parade if it's supposed to mean anything other than "community."

9/15/2023 3:21:43 PM

Modern Christmas parades are hardly about Christianity.

9/15/2023 8:04:15 PM

BACK ON WITHOUT VEHICLES!

9/15/2023 9:16:20 PM

Praise be to our Lord and Savior Santa Claus!

9/15/2023 10:04:52 PM

9/15/2023 10:48:58 PM