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qntmfred
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How about cot and caught?

7/23/2019 10:42:50 PM

dtownral
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Does anyone not pronounce walk and wok differently?

7/23/2019 10:50:34 PM

dmspack
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Yes I pronounce those words differently

7/23/2019 11:04:11 PM

synapse
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yes, yes.

7/23/2019 11:28:44 PM

moron
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Not if I’m singing them in a song

7/23/2019 11:38:34 PM

beatsunc
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this one time, a guy was trying to tell me he lived off Fah road and i was like ???, he says "F O X, Fah road"



[Edited on July 24, 2019 at 5:33 AM. Reason : b]

7/24/2019 5:30:33 AM

justinh524
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Wakka wakka wakka

7/24/2019 7:28:25 AM

GrumpyGOP
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I don't think I do walk/wok differently. I do pronounce cot/caught differently.

7/24/2019 8:32:13 AM

dtownral
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how? do you make the L silent in walk or are you adding an L to wok?

7/24/2019 8:45:25 AM

qntmfred
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How about talk and tock

7/24/2019 9:56:19 AM

marko
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Warshington.

7/24/2019 10:40:39 AM

wdprice3
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Do you walk to wok or wok to walk?

7/24/2019 10:47:48 AM

dmspack
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cot–caught_merger

This would probably explain why I (and probably others here) aren’t familiar with it

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"According to Labov, Ash, and Boberg,[12] the merger in North America is most strongly resisted in three regions:

The "South", somewhat excluding Texas and Florida"

7/24/2019 10:50:16 AM

dtownral
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so in the southwest and west coast cot and caught are pronounced the same?

7/24/2019 11:02:18 AM

qntmfred
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so basically most of y'all are some unevolved neanderthal mouth sounding hicks, is what i'm hearing?

7/24/2019 11:12:20 AM

dmspack
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From the wiki article it seemed like it wasn’t super concentrated in one region or another, but was more present in the west. And was kind of a randomly spread throughout the nation, with specific resistance in some areas.

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"Even without taking into account the mobility of the American population, the distribution of the merger is still complex; there are pockets of speakers with the merger in areas that lack it, and vice versa. There are areas where the merger has only partially occurred, or is in a state of transition. For example, based on research directed by William Labov (using telephone surveys) in the 1990s, younger speakers in Kansas, Nebraska, and the Dakotas exhibited the merger while speakers older than 40 typically did not.[9][10] The 2003 Harvard Dialect Survey, in which subjects did not necessarily grow up in the place they identified as the source of their dialect features, indicates that there are speakers of both merging and contrast-preserving accents throughout the country, though the basic isoglosses are almost identical to those revealed by Labov's 1996 telephone survey. Both surveys indicate that, as of the 1990s, approximately 60% of American English speakers preserved the contrast, while approximately 40% merged the phonemes. Further complicating matters are speakers who merge the phonems in some contexts but not others, or merge them when the words are spoken unstressed or casually but not when they're stressed, or maintain the distinction in pronunciation without consciously noticing the difference."

7/24/2019 11:17:29 AM

Bullet
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Are you Canadian or live in Fargo?

7/24/2019 11:29:24 AM

dtownral
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Quote :
"so basically most of y'all are some unevolved neanderthal mouth sounding hicks, is what i'm hearing?"

based on that language merger link, isn't it the opposite?

7/24/2019 11:41:01 AM

qntmfred
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no.

7/24/2019 11:48:01 AM

Exiled
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Nope.

7/24/2019 12:13:25 PM

dtownral
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pronouncing them the same means you're using dumbed-down american english

7/24/2019 12:52:33 PM

Bullet
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You mouth-breathing hicks are pronouncing it correctly. You morans.

7/24/2019 1:09:12 PM

afripino
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wok it like I tok it

7/24/2019 5:20:57 PM

wwwebsurfer
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warder vs water

At a minimum I pronounce them differently in my head. What comes out, though, debatable.

7/24/2019 10:21:34 PM

AndyMac
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Quote :
"pronouncing them the same means you're using dumbed-down american english"


What makes a certain dialect more "dumbed-down" than another?

Every dialect of English has distinct features that people could argue are incorrect.

7/24/2019 11:46:43 PM

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