davelen21 All American 4119 Posts user info edit post |
Prove me wrong. 3/19/2022 2:56:11 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Herbs the best coach we’ve had since V. All the criticisms of Herb are valid. Both statements are true. 3/19/2022 3:13:58 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
could’ve been the last man standing after the retirements of Roy and K 3/19/2022 5:13:42 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't say all the criticisms were valid. Some were, but some were incredibly dumb and had no bearing on his ability to coach or recruit. 3/19/2022 5:34:51 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
^ fair 3/19/2022 5:55:11 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
his timing was off
the memories of the Valvano era were still relatively fresh and that was the biggest thing going against him
Herb in 2022 would be a much better fit than Herb in 1996 3/19/2022 8:30:16 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Even his successes were clouded by the first 5 years (plus the Les years) of his tenure. He had lost enough fans by then that unless he won a conference title (which he nearly did) or something major, he wasn’t winning a large portion of the fans back. Herb was a fine coach. He also should have been irreplaceable. But we’ve yet to make a good hire since….
The biggest fuck up was the fans (myself included, probably) not wanting John Beilein after Herb. He would’ve come. And likely would’ve been pretty successful
[Edited on March 19, 2022 at 8:53 PM. Reason : A] 3/19/2022 8:53:01 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He also should have been irreplaceable" |
Typo?3/19/2022 9:14:44 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah my bad. Should not have been irreplaceable. 3/19/2022 9:39:01 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Got a shout out tonight for his "great coaching job" of Jalen Williams 4/12/2023 10:53:51 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
I also don't think it helped that he was a bit of a nerd.
JOCKS HATE NERDS. 4/13/2023 12:20:37 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^it also didn't help that he failed at the 2 things you have to be good at as a coach, beating your rival and winning championships. He should have been canned after the year 5 losing season. Maybe we could have gotten someone better. 5/8/2023 5:30:27 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Very timely argument 5/8/2023 6:28:59 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Should have hired Huggins smh 5/8/2023 7:20:42 PM |