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"I think relatively speaking must mean they all hated the US to some extent Because you just dont go from a peaceful vegetable salesman to blowing yourself up in a marketplace if you dont already have some ill will towards somebody"

Troll troll troll away. No one with a college degree can be this dense. Or is it all the weed you smoke that fucked your head up?

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"well they're going to terrorize us somewhere so its better that the fighting be done outside the US"

ROFL. What a dumbass. THE TERRORIST THAT WE CREATED BY BEING IN IRAQ ARE GOING TO TERRORIZE US SOMEWHERE NOW THAT THEY EXIST, MIGHT AS WELL BE IN THE LOCATION WHERE WE CREATED THEM!!!

It's like some wacky government social program where guys X need to do their jobs, which is filling holes, so we pay guys Y to create them...only, American and Iraqi lives are lost in this instance, and rich oil execs and other military spending specific companies are getting rich.

3/12/2007 6:00:40 PM

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"Everyone is concerned about the United States being in the middle of a civil war inside Iraq, but they forget about the fact that, if U.S. troops were to pull out of Iraq, that civil war could become a regional war between the Sunnis and Shia. And the region, just in case anyone has forgotten, is the Persian Gulf, where we get most of our oil and, you and I have talked about his before, natural gas. So the idea of pulling out of there and letting the region—I mean, letting the national civil war expand into a regional civil war, something the United States cannot allow to happen."

Ted Koppel--NOT a "neocon"--on Meet the Press this weekend.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17503309/

3/12/2007 9:39:33 PM

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" the Persian Gulf, where we get most of our oil "

not true at all

but otherwise i agree.

except, that i'm not so sure that it would be a horrible thing if that region got stirred up a little bit. that might be what it takes to get some change. but of course it could end far worse. who's to say?

bush's war fucked up that whole region. and now it's a big mess that no one knows how to fix.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:42 PM. Reason : ./]

3/12/2007 9:40:24 PM

Strange, why was there no mention about the war on terror, or terrorism, in his statements?

I'd actually be more ok with any strategy this administration could come up with if they just stopped saying this shit is about terrorism. It pisses me off and makes me want to say to them to take any plans they have and shove it up their collective asses.

3/12/2007 9:45:36 PM

BTW, concerning military recruiting/retention for February 2007:

Army: Exceeded goals

Marines: Exceeded goals

Navy: Met goals

Air Force: Met goals

WRAL 11 p.m. broadcast tonight.

3/12/2007 10:37:25 PM

that's easy to do when you lower your standards.

and yes, Iraq would be better off today with Saddam still in power.

3/12/2007 10:39:29 PM

^ Your post seems eerily familiar. . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CKOHiT8vr0&mode=related&search=

Please embed.

3/12/2007 10:49:44 PM

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"fact is: it's far easier to get us on their own turf"

And how many American civilians are killed "on their own turf"? Aren't the lives of regular Americans who they are fighting for?

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"THE TERRORIST THAT WE CREATED BY BEING IN IRAQ ARE GOING TO TERRORIZE US SOMEWHERE NOW THAT THEY EXIST"

Are you really naive enough to believe that if we leave Iraq all of a sudden nobody will try to attack us?

3/12/2007 11:00:41 PM

^^It's true, the military has started to lower its standards to get more people in. they increased the enlistment age limit, they are actively telling recruits how to piss clean, and have actually started to recruit autistic and mentally retarded people. Don't try that logical fallacy shit on me.

3/12/2007 11:16:46 PM

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"Don't try that logical fallacy shit on me."

nutsmackr

AHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Fucking classic!

V "Called out"? Hardly. I think some lawmakers need coffee at the General Assembly--you'd better hurry.



[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 11:28 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 11:20:55 PM

imagine that, get called out on your logical fallacy and try to claim I'm in the wrong.

3/12/2007 11:23:17 PM

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"Are you really naive enough to believe that if we leave Iraq all of a sudden nobody will try to attack us?"

Are you really naive enough to believe we weren't attacked before we ever invaded their country?

Are you really naive enough to believe this is an actual war that can be won?

Are you really naive enough to think the United States has 1 trillion...2 trillion...maybe more to spend on this war without repercussion back home?

Are you really naive enough to believe that this war hasn't caused vastly more people to hate us than did before?


YOU HAVE SMOKED YOURSELF SILLY SON. GET HELP.

3/13/2007 6:38:36 AM

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"Are you really naive enough to believe we weren't attacked before we ever invaded their country?"

Actually we were attacked before we invaded their country...multiple times...you fucking idiot

(awaits the IRAQ WAR != WAR ON TERROR bullshit rhetoric)

keep with the "smoked yourself silly" comments though...they're about as humorous as the "I have you on block but I always respond to you" hogwash you spew...maybe I should just resort to saying you don't get anything because you are bald when I can't argue anything pertinent to the subject...that way I can be a successful and well-liked poster just like you

But I did get a good chuckle out of your dumbass thinking that nobody was attacking us before we invaded Iraq...that shit is fucking hilarious that any moron would still think something so utterly retarded

3/13/2007 8:45:48 AM

YOU HAVE SMOKED YOURSELF SILLY SON. GET HELP.

3/13/2007 9:03:01 AM

about the comment I'd expect from someone fresh off of getting pwnt who still can't say anything that relates to the topic

TERRORISTS DIDNT BOMB THE COLE OR TANZANIAN OR KENYAN EMBASSIES OR WTC'S MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE WE INVADED IRAQ OMG I HATE BUSH AND I HAVE TREETWISTA ON BLOCK!!111

[Edited on March 13, 2007 at 9:13 AM. Reason : .]

3/13/2007 9:09:24 AM

I have no clue what you are posting. But I am sure it's quality!!!

3/13/2007 9:14:22 AM

I HAVE YOU ON BLOCK BUT I LIKE TO QUOTE WHAT YOU SAY

ps: we WERE attacked before we invaded Iraq...just in case you forgot about things like 9/11

[Edited on March 13, 2007 at 9:24 AM. Reason : .]

3/13/2007 9:23:52 AM

3/13/2007 9:29:04 AM

YEAH, AND 9/11, COLE, AND THE AFRICAN EMBASSIES WERE BOMBED BY IRAQ, OR BY GROUPS BASED IN IRAQ.

3/13/2007 9:32:40 AM

^who said they were?

and what does that have to do with anything?

3/13/2007 9:34:16 AM

how tall do these bars need to get before it's "officially worse now" than before



http://www.pentagon.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=32458
http://www.defenselink.mil/home/pdf/9010_March_2007_Final_Signed.pdf

3/15/2007 12:06:26 PM

DEVELOPING STORY

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"Suicide bombers blew up chlorine-filled trucks in Iraq Friday, killing two police officers and sickening around 350 Iraqis and six coalition force members, the U.S. military said on Saturday. "

3/17/2007 8:56:21 AM

I was just about to post this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6461757.stm

Things are certainly getting better now that they have moved on to using chemical weapons...wait...what?

3/17/2007 9:35:15 AM

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"with 49% preferring life under the current political regime of Noori al-Maliki. "

wow roughly half the people prefer the current iraq

i thought it was like 100% of people preferring saddam's iraq according to the retards in this thread?

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"Things are certainly getting better now that they have moved on to using chemical weapons...wait...what?"

yeah good point...saddam didn't use any chemical weapons on his people...wait...what?

3/19/2007 9:06:10 AM

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"wow roughly half the people prefer the current iraq"

And 42% think it's as bad or worse now.

Also, the BBC poll found that 50% of Iraqis think things are worse for Iraq now. 37% think things are better.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/19_03_07_iraqpollnew.pdf

3/19/2007 9:17:09 AM

but reading the constant updates from State409c and other retards, I am led to believe that well over 100% of Iraqis believe Iraq under Saddam's rule was not only preferable, but full of sunshiny days...I heard Saddam made sure all the streets were paved with cotton candy and the Tigris and Euphrates flowed with gold plated chocolate sauce

3/19/2007 9:19:42 AM

It was sort of okay before the war with Iran, at least in economic terms. And if you're okay with dictatorship. The last ten years before the invasion had been shit, with the sanctions and all.

3/19/2007 9:28:22 AM

Apparently some Iraqi's arent ok with dictatorships...I thought they were all mindless robots who all preferred "stability" to the current situation...if by stability you mean not knowing if the dictator's special police are going to kidnap and murder you

3/19/2007 9:32:31 AM

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"The latest reports of Iraq violence Monday included six explosions in oil-rich Kirkuk which killed at least 10 people and wounded 37, police said, and a bomb blast at a Baghdad mosque that left six dead. The Kirkuk blasts included four car bombs and two roadside bombs, police said. The car bombs targeted an Iraqi police patrol, an education directorate building, a mobile phone company, and an empty building once used by a political party, according to police. About 150 miles (240 kilometers) to the south of Kirkuk in Baghdad, a bomb exploded at a Shiite mosque killing six people and wounding 32 others, a city police official said. Attackers hid the bomb near an entrance to the mosque, the official said, which is called al-Hussein Bin Rooh. The blast hollowed out a crater in the floor of the mosque, smashed windows, and damaged a wall, according to The Associated Press. Gheith Jassim, a 32-year-old shop owner who works near the mosque told AP he rushed to the attack site after the blast. "When I arrived, I saw several wounded people being taken by ambulances and they were screaming from fear and injuries," Jassim told AP. "There were bloodstains on the wall and some carpets were burned." Jassim told AP that some worshippers at the scene were cursing Sunni extremists. "We are not saved from them even during prayers," he told AP. "They want to ignite Sunni-Shiite strife." The mosque is is situated among several shops in the central Shorja market area -- which was the target of a grenade attack on Sunday that left two people dead and another wounded. A survey released Monday for ABC News, USA Today, the BBC and ARD German TV suggests that Iraqis have moved from optimism to fear, anger and distress in the four years since the war began, according to The Associated Press. (Watch how families, and especially children, cope at a Baghdad refugee camp Video) Only 39 percent of Iraqi respondents to the poll said their lives are going well compared to 71 percent in November 2005, AP reported. (Full story)"

More killings, optimism fading.

3/19/2007 10:59:51 AM

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"Only 39 percent of Iraqi respondents to the poll said their lives are going well "

THATS UP FROM THE 0% YOU'VE BEEN CLAIMING OVER THE LAST YEAR

3/19/2007 11:03:43 AM

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"Q2. Compared to the time before the war in spring 2003, are things overall in your life much better now, somewhat better, about the same, somewhat worse, or much worse? 2007: Much Better - 14% Somewhat Better - 29% About the Same - 22% Somewhat Worse - 28% Much Worse - 8% Refused/don't know - N/A"

Much Better + Somewhat Better = 43%
Much Worse + Somewhat Worse = 36%
About the Same - 22%

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/19_03_07_iraqpollnew.pdf

So according to these Iraqis...43% say Iraq is better than with Saddam in power while 36% say its worse...the people of Iraq have spoken

3/19/2007 12:03:53 PM

In that question, sure. A personal question.

Look at some of the other ones.

3/19/2007 12:04:56 PM

but that question has been the subject of this 10 page thread

3/19/2007 12:09:09 PM

Look at the question about Iraq as a whole. 50% think it's worse now than before the invasion. 38% think it's better.

3/19/2007 12:11:29 PM

hey you can start another thread if you want to talk about something else but

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"43% say Iraq is better than with Saddam in power while 36% say its worse...the people of Iraq have spoken"

3/19/2007 12:13:42 PM

Do you not understand the difference between "How are you doing?" and "How is your country doing?"?

3/19/2007 12:16:11 PM

so when you made this thread, is that what you had in mind?

3/19/2007 12:20:26 PM

It's always pretty comedic for me to come home and read the idiocracy that is a TrollTwista post.

3/19/2007 6:05:10 PM

I HAVE YOU ON BLOCK BUT I READ YOUR POSTS

3/19/2007 11:10:49 PM

I have you on block when I am work. But when I am home and want a good laugh at your expense, I check out what you have to say. And it never fails.

3/20/2007 7:38:41 AM

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"But when I am home and want a good laugh at your expense, I check out what you have to say. And it never fails"

Wow you really are a loser

PS: Still waiting for you to address the recent polls...I know you won't since the extent of your posting in here is "hey look some insurgents blew up a bomb, I'll post a link to this as evidence that the US is evil! I'm bald!"

3/20/2007 8:46:45 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6470425.stm

But..but...I thought we went there in the interest of the Iraqi people. To liberate them from the evil Saddam, to give them a better life.

WHY ARE WE IGNORING THEM?

Oh, I know

ITS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE REFINED AND TURNED INTO GASOLINE FOR OUR CARS

3/20/2007 9:22:22 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5475425.stm

3/20/2007 9:23:58 AM

^^ i was just about to post that link as well.

too bad we can't ask the MILLIONS of people questions when doing surveys BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN IRAQ ANYMORE.

iraq is doing great! with a LARGE PERCENTAGE (upto 20%) living as refugees either outside their country or within.

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 3:36 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2007 3:31:48 PM

beats getting gassed...by your own president

3/20/2007 3:44:11 PM

ROFL, Iraq would be better under Saddam if we hadn't mismanaged it


http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/21/iraq.reconstruction/index.html?eref=rss_politics

3/22/2007 9:03:31 AM

well one things for sure....people care a lot more about iraq nowadays than they did when saddam was in power killing people at will

3/22/2007 9:20:13 AM

you keep saying this all the time, so i am gonna fix it for you:

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"well one things for sure....people americans care a lot more about iraq nowadays than they did when saddam was in power killing people at will"

the whole world was aghast and crying for the iraqis over the draconian embargo against them, which led to, among other horrific things, raw sewage on the streets, and 600,000 children dying of things no one should die of.

who maintained those sanctions?

and what good did it do? saddam built more palaces during the sanction than he ever did.

i bet your sorry ass didn't know that, did it?

when did it become fashionable for YOU to start caring about LIBERATING the poor oppressed iraqis from their dictator, you fucking baby?

you en me.

3/22/2007 9:34:39 AM

it almost sounds like you are trying to blame those 600,000 deaths on me

BLAME AMERICA FIRST!

and when I said "people" instead of "Americans" I really meant "people on TWW"

but thanks for doing your part to make ME look worse than SADDAM HUSSEIN

3/22/2007 9:39:19 AM

America did impose the sanctions, you know.

3/22/2007 11:23:48 AM