Shrike, the responses I got are relevant to this thread. By launching games in the 'cell phone thingy' doesn't bring PSN up to Xbox Live's level. Not even remotely.

Using the dashboard you can see who's playing and who isn't from your friends list (which you can't on PS3 unless you quit the game.)

Also, you can invite your friends that aren't playing GTAIV using the same dashboard...which you cannot on PS3.

I'm sorry your feelings got hurt that the PSN sucks balls. Go to the PS3 thread if you want to rant about it.

they are not the exact same shrike. maybe once you are in a game.

4/23/2008 2:59:45 PM

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"No more so than any other game, which is why I hardly see the relevance, since that discussion has already been done ad nauseam in other threads, and everyone is already quite familiar with it. What is relevant is the fact that the multi player experience, you know actually launching it and playing, will be identical on both consoles, as I've already pointed out. It's been described to work exactly like Burnout Paradise if you want an example."

So you concede the fact that the xbox live experience is better than the PSN one, but yet fail to admit that might have an effect on games that are played on those services?

Wow. -10 iq points for sony fanboys everywhere.

4/23/2008 3:02:15 PM

shrike, PM fanatik so you can have a following.

4/23/2008 3:03:21 PM

so i should get this for PS3 right?

4/23/2008 3:06:10 PM

yup, because the online game play is superior to that of Xbox Live.

4/23/2008 3:10:19 PM

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"Shrike, the responses I got are relevant to this thread. By launching games in the 'cell phone thingy' doesn't bring PSN up to Xbox Live's level. Not even remotely."

Did I say that? I said the multiplayer experience on both platforms will be identical, which is true.

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"Using the dashboard you can see who's playing and who isn't from your friends list (which you can't on PS3 unless you quit the game.) Also, you can invite your friends that aren't playing GTAIV using the same dashboard...which you cannot on PS3."

See this kids, this is educating 360 owners on how to use XBox Live. Explain to me again why this belongs in this thread? Oh right, it doesn't, and Golovko is just rambling again.

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"they are not the exact same shrike. maybe once you are in a game."

So the PSN and Xbox Live are different, but GTA IV's online implementation is the same on both platforms. Good for you, you finally got it.

4/23/2008 3:13:53 PM

^what did you just ramble on about?

Did sony cum in your eye and you can't read or something?


you obviously have never been on xbox live. I'm guessing sony would pull their funding if you did.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 3:15:30 PM

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"what console are you kids getting it on?"

Quote :

"Xbox because xbox live is in general better for multiplayer"

i don't see what the debate is about. Xbox live is just plain better. If the multiplayer is the same then that can't be the deciding reason as to why you buy it. I don't have to start up COD4 to go to multiplayer i can just go to my friends list and see if someone is playing then join. I'm sure GTA4 will work the same way. The question he asked had nothing to do with which multiplayer is better it has to do with which console you would rather have the game on.

4/23/2008 3:17:24 PM

well this thread took a nasty turn.

4/23/2008 3:17:50 PM

i'm just fueling the fire and talking out my ass. i think the other people are serious though lolz

4/23/2008 3:22:45 PM

well talking out of your ass or not, you're right...that is a huge advantage to xbox live with ANY game. That is what shrike is failing to see.

[failboat]

I guess he's just so used to PSN that he doesn't see how awesome it is to have the features of Live. And once you're in a game...who cares

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 3:24:39 PM

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"well this thread took a nasty turn."

fanboyism will do that. Which is funny because the developers at Rockstar have said they have done everything in their power to avoid letting GTA add fuel to the console war fire.

...I guess they mean except for accepting 50 mil for exclusive xbox DLC of course.

4/23/2008 3:26:29 PM

My point is all things being the same, i'll take the fact that Live makes the MP experience of this game that much better over Sony. Yes it's inherent and something Live has and I've parroted it. With good reason...the other people (READ: SONY, NINTENDO) better catch on sometime this century.

The pretty large chunk of DLC content significantly sweetens the deal.

Nuff said. I'm not going to say anything more about it and you can take the Sony love back into the Sony thread. I'm a fan of my PS3 too but the facts are the facts.

4/23/2008 3:26:36 PM

This thread needs more gameplay videos

4/23/2008 3:26:49 PM

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"shrike, PM fanatik so you can have a following."

I'm amused that you're still riding my nuts, even though i've been ignoring you for months now...

I must have really hit a nerve.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM. Reason : d]

4/23/2008 3:26:56 PM

there he is. fanboy number 2. Did you come in here on your own or did Shrike have to pm you.

4/23/2008 3:28:08 PM

MORE GAMEPLAY VIDEOS!!!

4/23/2008 3:30:44 PM

get me a modded xbox and the game and i'll upload some

4/23/2008 3:31:24 PM

oh, I thought I was going to open this thread and read about GTA IV

my mistake

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 3:32:41 PM

came for the GTA IV discussion,

stayed for Golovko's razor sharp wit?

4/23/2008 3:36:15 PM

came for the GTA IV discussion,

stayed for Golovko's razor sharp wit?

4/23/2008 4:02:13 PM

came for the GTA IV discussion,

stayed for Shrike/Fanatik's razor sharp fanboyness?

4/23/2008 4:03:19 PM

Honestly, I'm not really surprised, this is type of stupidity that erupts anytime Golovko and El Nachó are involved. Anyway......

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=3&cId=3167500

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"We're at a point now where the games pretty much look identical side by side. There's a slight difference in the way they look. I think that's to do with really low-level technical stuff that I'm not the guy to explain. The 360 games have a certain look to them; PS3 games have a certain look to them. I like the way [the PS3] renders. There's a certain kind of softness without being blurry -- some warmth to it -- and then there's a certain more clinical element to how the 360 looks. Both have plusses and minuses. As far as I'm concerned, they're neck and neck now. That's very much our goal; we do not want to get in the middle of that rather heated, fervent debate.... These guys who wanna defend their systems, you know what? Good on 'em, and let them do it. We just didn't want to give them something that would in any way fuel it...."

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/grandtheftauto4/news.html?sid=6188921&mode=previews

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". As with Burnout Paradise, you'll be able to see which of your friends are currently playing GTA IV online, and if they're in an open party, you'll be free to join them. Likewise, if you choose to create a game, you can restrict it to just your friends list or open it up to the online community."

So that's where that came from. You want to keep making yourself look like idiots and argue with the co-founder of Rockstar and people who actually played the game, not me, be my guest. The fact is, everything I said was completely true and based on ACTUAL INFORMATION, unlike everything you've said. The multiplayer functionality will be identical on both consoles, just like in Burnout Paradise. Go ahead and keep discussing your irrelevant console war, Xbox Live/PSN bullshit, you people are beyond hopeless at this point anyway. I'd like to get back to talking about the game.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : :]

4/23/2008 4:04:59 PM

you are a fucking dumbass. You are still overlooking the advantage of Xbox Live over PSN that is an advantage to ANY cross platform multiplayer game. Be a man, take it as a hit on the PSN, and pray to your sony god that it gets fixed with this alleged PSN update.

All rockstar is saying is that to join a game and the actual game play is the EXACT same on any console. HOWEVER, if you have real friends and want to play with them...Xbox LIVE is better.

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"Honestly, I'm not really surprised, this is type of stupidity that erupts anytime Golovko and El Nachó are involved. Anyway...... "

who here has an xbox360 AND a ps3? and who here has just a PS3. yeah ok, take your gay fanboyness and stfu. keep your rambling to the PS3 thread. So that people who are curious which platform they should buy GTAIV on (as I was) can find the facts easily.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 4:10:35 PM

WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT GTA4

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES THE GAME WILL HAVE BETWEEN XBOX LIVE AND PSN

WE KNOW THE GRAPHICS AND GAME PLAY ARE THE SAME

4/23/2008 4:13:54 PM

OIC

4/23/2008 4:17:40 PM

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"you are a fucking dumbass. You are still overlooking the advantage of Xbox Live over PSN that is an advantage to ANY cross platform multiplayer game. Be a man, take it as a hit on the PSN, and pray to your sony god that it gets fixed with this alleged PSN update."

Again, what does that have to do with this game? Go make another thread for that. You are so fucking stupid it is beyond belief.

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"So that people who are curious which platform they should buy GTAIV on (as I was) can find the facts easily."

What facts you fucking idiot? All you've done is state reasons why Xbox Live is better than the PSN. How are those facts relevant to which platform multi-console owners should buy the game on. Shouldn't they already know? Why did you ask the question then? Oh that's right, you're an idiot.

Quote :

"WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT GTA4"

Thread title? Good god

4/23/2008 4:21:07 PM

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"Honestly, I'm not really surprised, this is type of stupidity that erupts anytime Golovko and El Nachó are involved."

Don't throw me in the same boat as that toolbag.

I can't help it if you're too much of a fanboy to see why having a better online system might have be a deciding factor for people buying one of the biggest multiplayer games of all time.

If you can't understand that simple concept, you're beyond help.

Keep digging that fanboy hole deeper though. It's actually amusing to watch such a blind willingness to promote everything sony.

4/23/2008 4:21:08 PM

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"I can't help it if you're too much of a fanboy to see why having a better online system might have be a deciding factor for people buying one of the biggest multiplayer games of all time. "

THEY HAVE THE SAME ONLINE SYSTEM. THEY LAUNCH THE EXACT SAME WAY, THEY USE THE EXACT SAME LOBBIES, THE IMPLEMENT YOUR FRIENDS LIST IN THE EXACT SAME WAY. The only difference is that one, you're playing with Xbox 360 owners, and on the other, with PSN owners. Are you people just trying to piss me off on purpose or are you really this stupid?

Quote :

" Keep digging that fanboy hole deeper though. It's actually amusing to watch such a blind willingness to promote everything sony."

Go ahead, I dare you to find a quote of me, in this thread, or anywhere saying that the PSN is better than Xbox Live, or that you should buy a multi-platform title on the PS3. I don't do that, all I do state the facts. Eat shit fag.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:24 PM. Reason : :]

4/23/2008 4:23:03 PM

Quote :

"Thread title? Good god "

holy shit you are retarded?

its not that complicated.
If the games are the same, but the systems have different advantages that apply to the game, then you discuss the differences of the given systems.
if you still don't understand go back to your high school debate team and take a few more notes this time.


^k well when i can jump from the dashboard right into a game with my friends we'll continue this discussion

4/23/2008 4:24:11 PM

fuckin A dude, you cry worse than a woman in labor. Take your shit and GTFO.

Quote :

" Again, what does that have to do with this game? Go make another thread for that. You are so fucking stupid it is beyond belief."

It has plenty to do with it. you may not like playing GTAIV with your friends but some of us do. Having a better online experience with a game does make a difference. Even if its not because of the game developers features. So when someone asks a legitimate question about which console to buy it on...the obvious answer is Xbox360 BECAUSE of Xbox LIVE...that is if everything you posted as far as gameplay is accurate and the gameplay is the exact same.

so again, you lose miserably because you fail to see the obvious. Get on Xbox LIVE so you can at least save yourself the embarrassment.

What a fucking dumbass, i didn't think you could be this dense.

4/23/2008 4:27:42 PM

Quote :

"THEY HAVE THE SAME ONLINE SYSTEM. THEY LAUNCH THE EXACT SAME WAY, THEY USE THE EXACT SAME LOBBIES, THE IMPLEMENT YOUR FRIENDS LIST IN THE EXACT SAME WAY. The only difference is that one, you're playing with Xbox 360 owners, and on the other, with PSN owners. Are you people just trying to piss me off on purpose or are you really this stupid?"

alright. obviously you just don't get it. so I'll try not to use any big words to confuse you.

Lets say you want to play a game of GTA with your friends.

If you have the 360 version of the game, you turn on the xbox, check your friends list. pick out 4-5 people that are online, send out some invites, and you're up and running with GTA in a couple of minutes. That means that even if your friends were playing COD4 or halo they will still get the invites and be able to quit what they're doing and join your game.

IF you have a PS3 you...well I'm not sure what you do? send email invites? Call them all on the phone? carrier pigeons? I'm sure you'll think of something.

4/23/2008 4:28:01 PM

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"Hi there, The good news is we are planning to send out your copy of GTA IV tomorrow, Wednesday 23rd April, to be with you first thing on Thursday 24th, so the wait is almost over. In order for us to do that, could you: - Let us know which format you would prefer to receive the game on? - Let us know your Gamertag, if the answer to the above is Xbox 360 or your PSN On Line ID if the answer is PS3. Why we need to know. Xbox 360 Version We need your Gamertag because Microsoft will be helping Rockstar Games monitor access to the online modes up to release date. Because of this, we will need to add your Gamertag to the approved list of gamers who can play online prior to release. In addition to supplying this information, if you do intend to go online before April 29th, you will need to change a couple of the basic settings on your Xbox 360 and keep these settings like this till the game comes out, otherwise other people will be able to see your achievements list for GTA IV (even if you are playing another game) and we’d like to keep that information back for the fans. You will have to switch your profile to private and appear off line. We have attached a document that explains exactly how you do this just in case. PS3 Version There are no privacy settings that can be set on the PS3 but we will still be tracking who is going on line so again it will make it easier for us to identify you as a genuine user if we have your ID. Thanks and enjoy the game! "

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ,]

4/23/2008 4:29:19 PM

PS3 version if you don't have friends.

4/23/2008 4:30:33 PM

^^^not to mention....if you're playing GTA IV already and your friend signs on, without leaving the game session you can check and see the following...

1) what game is your friend playing or is he being gay and watching a movie
2) do you want to chat with him via voice/text and ask if he wants to play
3) if yes to 2 then send an invite.

all this without quitting your current session.

now if i was on a ps3...i'd have to either A) leave the fucking game and go back to the home screen or B) call him on the fucking phone.

so not only do you have to wait 5 minutes on the PS3 to install the game...but you also have to quit and reload the game a dozen times to get your friends to join you. sounds like a lot of time NOT playing the game.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:31 PM. Reason : ^]

4/23/2008 4:31:48 PM

FOOD FIGHT

Shit, did I start this? I really didn't mean to. I still stand by my comments as relevant discourse on pre-order and purchase day which is important right now...Oh well.

As an owner of both systems I hereby toss my big ass piece of pizza and leftover lunchroom peas right into the fray. The bottom line (and my peas I'm tossing in are): You're an idiot if you have both 360 and PS3 and opt for the PS3 version. It wouldn't make sense.

Now: If you asked me what someone should do who doesn't have either system...which one to get right now? I'd probably tell you PS3. It's all about context. It's got a lot going on this year.

Not sure what's so godamned hard about this to understand to answer the question one and for all. Then again, thinking in shades of gray without overreacting seems to be in short supply around here.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:38 PM. Reason : Grandmaster, your post has nothing to do with anything except for game reviewers or lucky fucks]

4/23/2008 4:36:27 PM

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"What facts you fucking idiot? All you've done is state reasons why Xbox Live is better than the PSN. How are those facts relevant to which platform multi-console owners should buy the game on. Shouldn't they already know? Why did you ask the question then? Oh that's right, you're an idiot."

Not if they're going to buy the console just for the game, which is something that Sony at the very least is pushing for.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 4:36:55 PM

Quote :

"Go ahead, I dare you to find a quote of me, in this thread, or anywhere saying that the PSN is better than Xbox Live, or that you should buy a multi-platform title on the PS3. I don't do that, all I do state the facts. Eat shit fag."

See that's the really weird thing about this whole "argument" (I put argument in quotes because really at this point it's just a bunch of people pointing out what a moron you are). You have already conceded that XBL is better than the PSN. And there's no disagreeing that the DLC is coming for the Xbox but not for the PS3. So that makes the clear score Xbox:2 PS3:0.

But yet you still come in here trying to "set things straight" like those benefits simply don't exist. Either point out some ways that the PS3 version is better, or concede that it's not. It's that simple.

4/23/2008 4:37:15 PM

i thought it was pretty widely accepted that 360 has a better online setup as far as connection speeds, number of people, reliability...but the drawback was you have to pay ~$50/year for Gold

4/23/2008 4:37:41 PM

$50/yr is nothing lol.

have fun on your PS3 while all of us are playing the new your mom's bedroom DLC

4/23/2008 4:39:50 PM

xbox live 12+1 month gold pack can be found just about anywhere these days for $40

4/23/2008 4:40:31 PM

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""Hi there, The good news is we are planning to send out your copy of GTA IV tomorrow, Wednesday 23rd April, to be with you first thing on Thursday 24th, so the wait is almost over."

Dude, wait, what?

Is someone breaking the street date?

4/23/2008 4:41:42 PM

The only time i bought a cross platform game on the PS3 vs the Xbox360 was FIFA 08 (which i regret) and simply because I had my PS3 for sometime and no games on it...and FIFA isn't something i play online...but with '08's online features...i should have gone with the 360.

4/23/2008 4:42:02 PM

^^where did that come from???

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:42 PM. Reason : lol oops]

4/23/2008 4:42:38 PM

i agree walls, and i have a 360...i just thought that was the consensus on the two online setups:

XBOX: Pros: best shit; Cons: costs money
SONY: Pros: free; Cons: not as good as XBL

i remember playing nba 2k and madden on ps2 on sony's free online setup...it was alright but not as good as XBL

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:44 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 4:43:59 PM

meh you get what you pay for.

4/23/2008 4:44:32 PM

i'll start the bidding off at $300

4/23/2008 4:44:48 PM

lol gg i forgot about that.

4/23/2008 4:45:58 PM

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"Dude, wait, what? Is someone breaking the street date?"

nfi.


seems to be for the UK slated release, IE probably how the PAL leaked so quickly. I bet NTSC won't be ripped until after launch.

then again, probably just some fake bs too.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM. Reason : editzgalore]

4/23/2008 4:49:10 PM

Quote :

"I bet NTSC won't be ripped until after launch."

I'll take you up on that bet.

and actually if you read the rest of that post it is talking about people getting the game before the street release and how you have to hide yourself on XBL and all that good stuff. looks like it might be some promotion/beta test/early release that Rockstar is doing.

4/23/2008 4:55:24 PM