Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
10 5/27/2008 11:58:22 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'd give this movie a 6.5/10 5/27/2008 11:58:55 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
did they ever even explain how/why the aliens "died" in the first place? 5/28/2008 12:00:15 AM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
they were like, "yo dude, you know what would be really fun? If we all pretended to be dead in this room for a few thousand years to play a totally awesome practical joke on this Russian bitch, where we disintegrate her ass then peace the fuck out. But look, Jimmy, you're going to have to crash land in New Mexico and have your head cut off so it can be carried around the world by some crazy guy...dude, come on, take a hit for the team. This is going to be so awesome."
yeah...I'm pretty sure that's about how it went down. 5/28/2008 12:30:53 AM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
overall I was entertained but there was definitely a lot of stupid ass shit.
"Not space... The space between spaces" =
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Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yup and ^ yup
fucking horrible horrible movie... right up there with Transformers and Van Helsing 5/28/2008 12:40:23 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
what were some of the plot holes you noticed 5/28/2008 1:19:49 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
I saw it Monday night. I'll give Lucas some credit, the movie was pretty entertaining and the plot spoilers that were posted a page or so back make the movie sound worse than it really is. But that doesn't mean it was a great movie, there was still some retarded and unnecessary stuff. 5/28/2008 1:56:57 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "right up there with Transformers" |
actually transformers is marginally better than IJ45/28/2008 2:00:24 AM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
No chance, this was way better than transformers and exponentially better than Van Helsing.
Neither of which is saying much. 5/28/2008 2:04:21 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what were some of the plot holes you noticed" |
why/how did the aliens "die" to begin with?
if the aliens are all powerful inter-dimensional beings when they all have their heads on how did they ever lose their head to begin with?
so they were flying around collecting all these artifacts for hundreds of years but never drew that much attention?
they let his mom go so she would mail the letter back to him and he would take it to Indy to translate but they try to capture Indy before he translates it? what?? if they knew where/who he was why didnt they just kidnap him like they did the first time and take HIM to the letter instead of having to sit there and wait for the mail to deliver the letter and try to kidnap him during the middle of the day in a crowded diner
what did the alien in the warehouse have to do with anything aside from being an alien?
when they pulled those heads off the obelisk and the sand started pouring out to start the mechanism that allowed them to enter the temple thing, there were people already dead on the spikes below... so the door/trap reset itself? all that sand had been replaced a few times? stones pushed back in place? riiiight
those native things that attacked them? were they some weird ghost thing or just normal people? if normal, were they just hanging around encased in stone waiting for someone to come by? just sitting there starving to death shitting on themselves?
there are many many more
[Edited on May 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM. Reason : d]5/28/2008 10:36:43 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^Those were all things I was actually thinking about in the film too. 5/28/2008 10:51:23 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We are told in the film that the Conquistadors stole the skull. However, since Indiana has to use the skull to open the tomb that it came from, it would have been impossible for the Conquistadors to have opened the tomb to steal it in the first place." |
http://www.moviemistakes.com/film73625/28/2008 11:13:53 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hey were like, "yo dude, you know what would be really fun? If we all pretended to be dead in this room for a few thousand years to play a totally awesome practical joke on this Russian bitch, where we disintegrate her ass then peace the fuck out." |
no shit
btw did i forget how to do math or wasn't their two crystal skulls? One from the crashed alien; and one that Indy found in the tomb of the dead conquistador.5/28/2008 11:46:08 AM |
jsdail All American 3260 Posts user info edit post |
wow..there are so many movie critics on tww....it makes me laugh 5/28/2008 12:12:31 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
?
yeah, you are right, people cant have opinions about movies. Opinions about things are SO dumb! shit, I just had an opinion! fuck! endless cycle of chaos! 5/28/2008 12:39:14 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
I am extremely easy to please at the movies; I can usually find something I like in almost anything.
I didn't hate this movie, but I didn't love it. There were far too many parts where I was distracted by the implausibility of the situation (none of them had to do with aliens). (Here's looking at you super refrigerator.)
Like marko (and others?) said, in a series where I've been asked to believe people found the Ark of the Covenant and opened it, and where the Holy Grail has been found, I'm fine with aliens. I actually rather like what COULD have been done with the alien story, but it lacked a little. And I definitely could have done without the living alien at the end.
Let the skeletons combine, whatever. Let the the flying saucer blast off, cool. But the living alien lost me.
So yeah; I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. It was OK. It definitely made me want to watch the first three again since it's been YEARS since I've seen them.
[Edited on May 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM. Reason : ] 5/28/2008 12:42:38 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We are told in the film that the Conquistadors stole the skull. However, since Indiana has to use the skull to open the tomb that it came from, it would have been impossible for the Conquistadors to have opened the tomb to steal it in the first place." |
they could have stolen the skull before the tomb was built or the skull-security measure could have been implemented after the skull was stolen
Quote : | "were they just hanging around encased in stone waiting for someone to come by?" |
they don't have to live in the cave. It wasn't like Indy & Co. were being quiet on their trek to the temple. Multiple explosions, a truck cutting down trees, etc would have given them plenty of time to start heading to the cave to protect it.
[Edited on May 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : ]5/28/2008 1:06:13 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, thats what I was thinking for that one... but all of mine are legit bullshit holes 5/28/2008 1:09:40 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if they knew where/who he was why didnt they just kidnap him like they did the first time and take HIM to the letter instead of having to sit there and wait for the mail to deliver the letter and try to kidnap him during the middle of the day in a crowded diner" |
yeah, it's not like he would have been that hard to find at the college he has worked at the entirety of his adult life5/28/2008 1:53:54 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they don't have to live in the cave. It wasn't like Indy & Co. were being quiet on their trek to the temple. Multiple explosions, a truck cutting down trees, etc would have given them plenty of time to start heading to the cave to protect it." |
The natives broke out of stones in the wall. If they had a way of getting behind the stones in the first place, why didn't they just get out of the stones the same way? And why wouldn't they just ambush them as soon as they walked by instead of after Indy & company had already left the room?5/28/2008 1:57:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they could have stolen the skull before the tomb was built or the skull-security measure could have been implemented after the skull was stolen " |
Yes. Ancient peoples built a giant pyramid tomb AFTER the Conquistadors showed up. Totally.5/28/2008 2:08:19 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ and ^^ are both true
^ that too even
horrible horrible movie 5/28/2008 2:10:02 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
for the kidnapping question...they had already kidnapped him once, and since he's Indiana Jones, he got away
maybe they were trying a different tactic 5/28/2008 2:33:57 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "(Here's looking at you super refrigerator." |
that part actually didn't even bother me to much5/28/2008 4:01:26 PM |
Punter16 All American 2021 Posts user info edit post |
one of the worst movies I've seen in the last 10 years 5/29/2008 12:15:58 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
so just curious about the refridgerator thing...so like could that really work? i mean i'm guessing its probably 1 in a million odds but part of me thinks its not even possible 5/29/2008 12:18:04 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
with today's fridges? No way.
The fridges in '57 were probably built just like the cars...like tanks 5/29/2008 1:28:11 AM |
Demathis1 All American 4364 Posts user info edit post |
fuck it
[Edited on May 29, 2008 at 8:08 AM. Reason : fuck it] 5/29/2008 8:07:32 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
the lesson to be learned here is indiana jones needs to fight nazis 5/29/2008 8:26:08 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah the fridges were tanks, but they wouldn't be able to withstand a nuclear explosion. The heat generated by a nuclear explosion is literally on the same scale as the surface of the sun. It would disintegrate the fridge. The lead lining would help protect him against residual radiation/fallout, but obviously that would be the last thing on your mind if you were caught in a nuclear explosion. But let's say that even if it did survive the heat, the shock wave generated would rip the fridge apart. And even if it didn't... if it just made it fly through the air like that, it would break apart when it hit the ground again and he would break every bone in his body.
[Edited on May 29, 2008 at 9:20 AM. Reason : ] 5/29/2008 9:19:43 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
well it's not like he was at ground zero. it looked like the "town" was several miles away. 5/29/2008 11:55:53 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe people are applying the laws of physics to a fucking indiana jones movie. I'd be trolled to list examples as to how ludicrous this is; get a clue.
And my biggest problem with the movie is that it seemed nothing more than to pay homage to the other three. There's so many examples of this movie mocking and referencing all the gimmicks in the other three and there's really nothing new going on in either character development nor plot scenario...If that's what Spielberg was going for, then it was a great piece of video nostalgia.
Otherwise, there are certain parrelels and metaphors that could have been exemplified to a higher degree; in fact, the entire theme of the Red Scare in the movie plays very close to all this terrorism/they hate us for our freedom bullshit we have going on today.
Bottom line is a lot of people are overreacting to this and putting standards on it that they shouldn't. There's no reason the same people that liked Iron Man shouldn't be fine with this movie.
[Edited on May 29, 2008 at 12:05 PM. Reason : k] 5/29/2008 11:58:49 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Except Iron Man didn't suck. 5/29/2008 12:48:02 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
well, I havent seen Iron Man... no desire... but I had been looking forward to this piece of shit for 15 years and its fucking horrible. Did the other movies have weird shit? yeah, but they stayed within their own logic, this one is just dumb, makes no sense. 5/29/2008 1:07:37 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
How many in the package action figures do you have, Wraith? I'll bet the answer is more than zero. 5/29/2008 2:36:07 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
iron man was much much better than this movie. 5/29/2008 2:40:00 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Iron Man was amazing. 5/29/2008 2:44:42 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
What so now you are trying to attack me personally because I have a different opinion then you? That is mature. And to answer your question, I don't have any action figures.
[Edited on May 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ] 5/29/2008 3:15:51 PM |
Punter16 All American 2021 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Except Iron Man didn't suck" |
5/29/2008 3:17:37 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3814 Posts user info edit post |
Probably been said already, but for a movie like this you just have to accept that there will be some logic flaws and ridiculousness.
The only parts that bothered me were the Tarzan part (swinging through the jungle) and the completed alien glaring at the camera.
I put this movie on the same level of believability as Aztec Rex, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. 5/29/2008 3:24:02 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
You dude's are whining about a fucking summer action flick. It's really kind of pathetic. Yeah, it's not as good as Raiders, but so what? It was a fun little flick that I'll probably enjoy watching again. 5/29/2008 4:19:21 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. Iron Man fucking sucks. 5/29/2008 4:31:09 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. Indy 4 fucking sucks. 5/29/2008 4:34:05 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
you shits defending this garbage dont get it... there is a difference between an "action movie/summer movie" and pure garbage. Its not like a movie HAS to have plot holes to be considered an action movie.
[Edited on May 29, 2008 at 7:15 PM. Reason : d] 5/29/2008 7:10:43 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
RAARRRRRRRRRRR IM SO PISSED OFF SPIELBERG DIDNT THINK OF ME THROUGHOUT MAKING THIS FILM
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR IVE BEEN A FAN OF INDY SINCE I WAS 5 AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOVIES MYSELF I BET I HAVE WHAT IT TAKES AND KNOW WHO TO KEEP IN MIND INSTEAD OF WHAT HAPPENED
RAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR VALIDATE MY EXISTENCE BY MAKING A GOOD MOVIE 5/29/2008 7:24:35 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
Back To the Future/ET/Indiana Jones all in one. At least those are all good movies, right? 5/29/2008 8:24:24 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You dude's are whining about a ******* summer action flick. It's really kind of pathetic. Yeah, it's not as good as Raiders, but so what? It was a fun little flick that I'll probably enjoy watching again." |
Ha. And you're whining about people whining about a summer action flick.5/29/2008 8:53:16 PM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
haha and you just censored a fucking post. do you going to hell if you quote a bad word? 5/29/2008 9:36:29 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't see how a true Indiana Jones fan like myself could like this....
Me and 3 others left this movie pissed at it. But whatever.
I wish they would make a game for Indy, but they would prolly fuck that up too. 5/30/2008 1:43:54 PM |