Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
buy low, sell high.
thats what i say 1/22/2008 11:41:38 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you say it a third time? 1/22/2008 11:44:06 AM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
Ok so I took a gamble on CC the other day. Happy today but not sure how long to hold. 1/22/2008 1:17:44 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
i missed the CC boat damnit. 1/22/2008 1:58:36 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Aren't we already in the midst of one?" |
Quote on page 8 talking about a recession. Do people even understand the definition of a recession? No we are not in a recession. We could be headed towards one, but not yet.1/22/2008 2:56:33 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
A recession is a period of reduced economic activity. 1/22/2008 3:01:28 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
recession = 2 consequtive quarters of negative gdp
that said, even if we don't get a recession per se, an extended period of low gdp could concievably do as much or more damage 1/22/2008 3:06:39 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Well, sure if you want to get all technical. I was just talking about the simple webster definition. 1/22/2008 3:10:46 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ok so I took a gamble on CC the other day. Happy today but not sure how long to hold." |
Probably 2+ years.
News is that Mark Wattles, who is credited for buying and turning around Ultimate Electronics (http://www.twice.com/article/CA6360125.html), has bought 6.5% stake in Circuit City. The only article I can find on this right now is on the Dow Jones Newswire that I get through eTrade, so I don't have a link that I can share.
[Edited on January 22, 2008 at 3:59 PM. Reason : I bought when it was still 4.70 , but I plan to hold it a good long time.]1/22/2008 3:58:37 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
First close below 12000 for the Dow since October 2006. 1/22/2008 4:38:06 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Apple down $14 AH watch it tank in real time: http://www.level2quotes.com/
Apple reports 58% profit increase By Rex Crum Last update: 4:34 p.m. EST Jan. 22, 2008 SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Apple Inc. (AAPL: Apple Inc
Last: 155.64-5.72-3.54%
155.64, -5.72, -3.5%) on Tuesday reported a first-quarter profit of $1.58 billion, or $1.76 a share, on revenue of $9.6 billion. During the same period a year ago, Apple earned $1 billion, or $1.14 a share, on $7.12 billion in sales. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial had forecast Apple to earn $1.62 a share on revenue of $9.47 billion. Apple said that during the quarter ended Dec. 31 it sold 22.1 million iPods and 2.3 million Macintosh PCs. For its second quarter, the company estimates it will earn 94 cents a share on $6.8 billion in revenue. 1/22/2008 5:06:54 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
oh snap it's at $137 1/22/2008 5:27:37 PM |
statehockey8 All American 947 Posts user info edit post |
i thought it interesting that were was probably 3 times higher police present on Wall St today...as if someone would be so upset with the market downturn they'd go loco 1/22/2008 7:21:06 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
do yall think it's time to buy, or wait a little longer? 1/22/2008 7:52:48 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Been making bank off of AAPL this week 1/22/2008 7:59:15 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
i wanna get back into AAPL.
don't have the money to do it right now, though. might do something i always have sworn off--buying on margin.
[Edited on January 22, 2008 at 8:14 PM. Reason : asdf] 1/22/2008 8:14:01 PM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
^dont do it...with this markey volatility anything can happen no matter what the fundamentals of a stock are 1/22/2008 8:35:59 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ puts or selling short? 1/22/2008 8:38:41 PM |
Lobes85 All American 2425 Posts user info edit post |
Im looking into getting a Roth IRA here sometime before April.
Any suggestions on which mutual funds to look at? Which company has the best Roth (Ameritrade? Vanguard? Fidelity?) 1/22/2008 8:43:12 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Put in a buy limit order for ~147 during the holiday that I was able to sell at 157, and then I shorted on top of that.
[Edited on January 22, 2008 at 9:52 PM. Reason : I also bought a few lottery tickets] 1/22/2008 9:35:27 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Vanguard. VFIFX 1/22/2008 10:18:29 PM |
statehockey8 All American 947 Posts user info edit post |
AAPL down 12% overnight 1/23/2008 6:37:28 AM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like today will provide the Tech sector capitulation that I was looking for. After that no part of the market looks overbought to me given that we will have typical US recession. However, at least two risks remain that I can see.
1) The market moves into oversold territory. I know a lot of people feel it is already there but I think we are just crossing in to it. The continued strength in 2007 just didn't seem justified to me.
2) The recession is much worse than typical. I don't think anyone knows how bad it will get. It could be as bad as 82-83 and that would mean more selling. Honestly it could be worse. However, the Fed is signaling strong vigilance against a 82-83 scenario, so there is hope there.
Bottom line - If today is as bad as I think I will start to move out of bonds. The ten year is at 3.3% this morning. I just don't know how much further she can move. Could the Ten sustain 3.15? That would be unheard of. 1/23/2008 9:21:01 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
thinking about getting some CSCO soon and keep it for a while. 1/23/2008 9:51:41 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
BUY 7 AAPL $137.91 $972.37 BUY 2 GOOG $557.00 $1,121.00 1/23/2008 9:52:59 AM |
needlesmcgir All American 2427 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit I have lost so much money. 1/23/2008 10:03:56 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, me too, but I just keep buying more. In 30 years I'll be glad I did... 1/23/2008 10:04:55 AM |
needlesmcgir All American 2427 Posts user info edit post |
If this keep repeating themselves maybe. Could be different this time. 1/23/2008 10:49:36 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
RIMM, VMW, CSCO, and QQQQ making my portfolio look real bloody 1/23/2008 10:58:51 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
btw, check out NITE. i think they're making money whether the market goes up or down.
they're the guys taking the other side of most of our ill-timed trades 1/23/2008 11:30:52 AM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
^^
I never had the guts to pull the trigger on any QQQQ puts. Kicking myself now.
Looks like the Feb 45 put when from around .50 to 3.16 today. Missed out on a 600%+ return.
[Edited on January 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM. Reason : :-(] 1/23/2008 11:53:40 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
AAPL at $130
i'm a stock noob what does "Looks like the Feb 45 put when from around .50 to 3.16 today. Missed out on a 600%+ return." mean?
[Edited on January 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ] 1/23/2008 12:00:30 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
that's the thing about volatility - its comes at you fast
a less extreme way to play the put on the QQQQ is QID 1/23/2008 12:04:10 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
I'm extra extra glad I sold GOOD at $610. 1/23/2008 12:08:08 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
CSCO 22.45 down 1.027 (4.37%) AAPL 128 GOOG 533
crazy 1/23/2008 12:12:58 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
XOM is screaming down. This is really hurting me.
1/23/2008 12:16:19 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
XOM had record profits; i'd buy in some more 1/23/2008 12:27:10 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
I'll wait until it goes down some more to get some... 1/23/2008 12:35:12 PM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Not anymore
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a66G0YlSxdnE&refer=home 1/23/2008 12:55:51 PM |
SnakeBite All American 3156 Posts user info edit post |
look at the market fall, i got three open put positions aapl, goog, fslr i hope none of you were holding... 1/23/2008 1:26:20 PM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm a stock noob what does "Looks like the Feb 45 put when from around .50 to 3.16 today. Missed out on a 600%+ return." mean?" |
Not sure what is confusing so i will do it in pieces
It Looks like the -> normal English
Feb 45 put --> a contract called a "put" which would give me the right to sell QQQQ at $45 before Feb 16th
when from around --> typo should be "went from around"
.50 to 3.16 --> increased in price from 50 cents to 3 dollars and 16 cents.
Missed out on a 600% return --> I could have bought it for 50 cents and then sold it for 3.16 making more than 6 times the money that I spent.1/23/2008 2:50:40 PM |
SnakeBite All American 3156 Posts user info edit post |
nicely 'put' kwsmith2 1/23/2008 3:18:30 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT IN THE BLOODY HELL IS HAPPENING? I GO OUT TO QUIZNOS AND DON'T CHECK THE MARKETS...NEXT THING I KNOW THEY'RE RECOVERING.
...Maybe we should all go eat at Quiznos more often lol. 1/23/2008 3:29:01 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
WTF, Nasdaq moved from -3.6 to +1.8 in less than 3 hours. 1/23/2008 3:53:27 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
^ My point exactly. I went from very red to slightly green.
Not that I'm complaining. 1/23/2008 3:54:58 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I was away from my computer for an hour and almost crapped my pants when I saw the Dow. 1/23/2008 4:01:34 PM |
pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
mass psychology and crowd reactions 1/23/2008 4:14:09 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Do you really think that the stock market is ever anything more than that? 1/23/2008 4:18:37 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
NYSE=Snow possibility in Raleigh=Mass panic with little or no basis 1/23/2008 4:47:22 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
all markets are based on poo 1/23/2008 5:43:25 PM |